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Old 12-15-2010, 05:51 AM   #36
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T2 Judgment Day. Considering how the GT500 guys are being screwed by shelby for parts. Just drop his ***.
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Re: Should Ford Ditch Shelby in 2014?

Either way, Ford will make the car in their factory by themselves without Shelby, just as they have done with the GT500's.

Ford is leading the way with these cars and the 5.0's. Thankfully, Government Motors is competing with the Camaro, and Dodge with the Challenger, which will keep the Ford engineers to continue to come up with new ways to keep the SVT's out front - whether it is a SVT Cobra or a SVT Shelby (unless our lawmakers in washington decide to make us all become greener against our will).

I voted SVT Cobra only because the GT500's should have been named that due to them being made exclusively by Ford in Michigan. The Shelby GT's were the only mustangs that made the trip to Las Vegas for finishing up by Shelby.
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Yup, for now competition is good and I hope it stays that way
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Bring back the `Cobra-we need the Terminator, part 2, with the new Coyote, supercharged, and parts, looks-specific to the SVT Cobra instead of the Shelby..
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Heres an idea. with all the work ford has done with turbos recently with there eco-boost, why not make the next cobra turbo'd?
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Heres an idea. with all the work ford has done with turbos recently with there eco-boost, why not make the next cobra turbo'd?
I would love to see that
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As much as I love the cobra. I'd rather see the Boss 429 take its position. If they are going retro still when they redesign. I think going with an old school name would be best. All I know is after I am out of school and working I'm picking up a 2011+ mustang gt or better depending on fiances. House comes first though.
I am with you.. I have a GT500 but think the Shelby markup for the name although it is nostalgic is way to overpriced but the Boss holds equal weight in my book a supercharged Boss would be nice!!!
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Heres an idea. with all the work ford has done with turbos recently with there eco-boost, why not make the next cobra turbo'd?
Twin/Single Turbo Eco Boost is a possiblity in Ford's future based on their current research and development

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I am with you.. I have a GT500 but think the Shelby markup for the name although it is nostalgic is way to overpriced but the Boss holds equal weight in my book a supercharged Boss would be nice!!!
I think the Boss is really the only retro nostalgic car Ford isn't going to over produce, unlike the Bullit & Mach. We'll see their short run in the next year but it won't be around long. Look for the return of SVT branding.
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What Shelby has done to the mustangs in the last 5 years or so is the reason I bought a terminator. If there was a base GT body with a svt drive train available, I would have been all over it. In my opinion, Shelby way overtrimmed these cars. Don't get me wrong, Shelby has an impressive machine but I don't wanna see vin diesel driving one in fast and furious 10. Less is more. Just saying.
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Sonic I am with you that is one stang that would be the best of them all. 429 boss wow I would like to see a retro of the 1969 Mach 1 cobra jet.

I am working on my masters degree in business management and after I get into the right position I will have me a new stang too would love 07 cobra.
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I agree if we were using the3 chinese calendar the year 2014 would bethe year of the SVT, I don't think that saleen could ever dominate that area of the market like the shelby though...it seems like alot of the time when Saleen brings out a mustang it is just too out their and loses some of the classic look of a mustang that most people want...I feel like that is what makes shelby mustangs so popular is because they look so badass without abandoning the look of a mustang and I don't know if its just me but when I look at a shelby cobra from the front it really does look like the head of a cobra in some ways.

I could see Roush taking over more of the market tho. Either way as long at the new upper level mustang doesnt come with lambo doors ill be happy lol
HEHE! Lambo doors? Hey juno then we would have a germerican made mustang!
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Whatever they do, they need to use Sonic Blue as a color option! God I love that color!
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The Shelby GT500 has replaced the SVT Cobra since it was introduced in 2007. There are some people who love the GT500 and there are those that wish the SVT Cobra would return.

So lets see what you guys think should happen when Ford redesign the Mustang in 2014. Should they stay with Shelby or ditch the name and bring back the SVT Cobra?
no way,shelby should stay!
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SVT Cobra... we have a gt500 already
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I hope that 2012 is the last year they make the Shelby GT500 and I hope that they have a limited run on them. Its selfish but I want my 2012 to have some exclusivity!! They should step it up and continue to innovate with Ford Racing and the SVT group. I see a split to those prone to real racing wanting something like the Boss for the track and those wanting a "beast" for the road with all of its opulance end excess wanting the GT500. I could care less about the price of gas if there was a Boss 429. This would be the top of the top for the next road "beast".
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The Shelby GT500 has replaced the SVT Cobra since it was introduced in 2007. There are some people who love the GT500 and there are those that wish the SVT Cobra would return.

So lets see what you guys think should happen when Ford redesign the Mustang in 2014. Should they stay with Shelby or ditch the name and bring back the SVT Cobra?
Unfair poll: the next poll on this subject should be. Would you purchase a $50,000 Cobra?
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Unfair poll: the next poll on this subject should be. Would you purchase a $50,000 Cobra?
How is this unfair? I simply asked "Should Ford Have a 2014 Shelby GT500 or a 2014 SVT Cobra?"

Nothing is assumed about price.
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How is this unfair? I simply asked "Should Ford Have a 2014 Shelby GT500 or a 2014 SVT Cobra?"

Nothing is assumed about price.
This is going to sound bad but please don't take it like that. Not everyone can afford a 500 and the cobra while the price is up there. Is very affordable to more people being that its generally only 5000.00 to 8000.00 more than the GT. I would say the majority of votes are coming from people who see the cobra as attainable. How many people would buy a 500 for 40k over a cobra that's 50k? That's all I'm saying and don't get mad at me?
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This is going to sound bad but please don't take it like that. Not everyone can afford a 500 and the cobra while the price is up there. Is very affordable to more people being that its generally only 5000.00 to 8000.00 more than the GT. I would say the majority of votes are coming from people who see the cobra as attainable. How many people would buy a 500 for 40k over a cobra that's 50k? That's all I'm saying and don't get mad at me?
I guess I don't understand what you are saying? It is a one or the other thing. The Shelby GT500 would not be produced and the SVT Cobra name would return. This can be achieved for a price around the current GT500 if not less, due to not having the Shelby name premium.
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So just get rid of the Shelby name? I don't see the point.
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So just get rid of the Shelby? I don't see the point.
People like me (age: 25) grew up with no Shelby Mustangs and SVT was the top performing Mustang you could get. My favorite Mustang of all time is probably the 1996 Mustang Cobra.

Back then the difference between a 1996 Mustang GT and a 1996 Mustang Cobra was 7k dollars.

The styling was not restricted, such as the Shelby's and it was 100% in the hands of Ford. I'm not a big fan of the Shelby mustangs and would much rather eliminate the premium his name carries on the car.
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Let's be honest the "cobra" name is Shelby. When they built a Cobra without the Shelby name in 1993 I never bought into them. It just didn't feel right. They don't need to get rid of the Shelby name. Ford has what it needs with the "Boss" and thats what they should have done in 1993
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Let's be honest the "cobra" name is Shelby. When they built a Cobra without the Shelby name in 1993 I never bought into them. It just didn't feel right. They don't need to get rid of the Shelby name. Ford has what it needs with the "Boss" and thats what they should have done in 1993
Except the Boss is not, because it is such a limited production. The Boss Mustang is slated to only run for two years and the 2012 Boss Mustang is only suppose to have a production run of 3500 compared to 10000 for the 1996 Mustang Cobra with a production run from 1993-2004.

As far as it "just didn't feel right" it goes back to my generation deal. I didn't grow up around 1969 Shelby GT500's because you had to sell your house to buy one. If you ask most people today what a Cobra is, they will point to SN-95 Mustangs. The percentage of response that you get Shelby will increase greatly with age.

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Shelby is washed up. He is an old guy that is still trying to rake in as much money as he can. I feel the same way about him as I do Lee Iocacca. They need to get out of this business. Their time has came and gone. SVT makes those cars and John Coletti is/was the one man who single handedly made the Mustang relevent in this world again. Shelby just grabbed the coattail at the right time and stole the Limelight.

When you've got a car that can be sold for $40,000 but the name tag bumps it $10,000 you need to get rid of it. If the Terminator had been a Shelby it would have cost alot more than $39,995.00.

Don't get me wrong, I love the cars.. but so much more can be done. I have no, absolutely no care for the name tag "Shelby" espescially when they rebadge a GT Mustang and mark it up like crazy. That really pushed a button for me.

The pricing/hype/performance of the 2012 Boss is the best move Ford has made in years and IMO puts the Shelby name tag to shame. Move along old man your time is over. Enjoy the originals. Enjoy your 05-13 run. Go make a Mopar or something b/c your ****ing up my SVT Cobra.
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the current GT500 is SVT, it is Ford, it is NOT the doing of Shelby. They basically had very very little input on the vehicle. The current 07+ GT500 is the SVT Cobra... its just using Shelby's name to sell the vehicle. Also give Roush credit as they helped as well.

I am fine with Ford dropping the name or keeping it, the price will be the same, the car will be the same. It might be cheaper to make without the Shelby name but... Ford wont drop the price.


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When you've got a car that can be sold for $40,000 but the name tag bumps it $10,000 you need to get rid of it. If the Terminator had been a Shelby it would have cost alot more than $39,995.00.
The GT500 is not 10k over priced due to the Shelby name, they dont pay Shelby 10k a car lol.... its not that much just for the name. I bet they probably pay X amt a year to use it and its probably not that much overall.. I would like to know though how much of it actually is tacked onto the GT500~Ii mean they probably spread it around etc. Its also not about getting that money back its about having an icon that Ford can use to sell other cars. People come in to seethe new Shelby and leave in a Fiesta.... lol
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Unfair poll: the next poll on this subject should be. Would you purchase a $50,000 Cobra?
Cobra, yes. Shelby, no.
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the current GT500 is SVT, it is Ford, it is NOT the doing of Shelby. They basically had very very little input on the vehicle. The current 07+ GT500 is the SVT Cobra... its just using Shelby's name to sell the vehicle. Also give Roush credit as they helped as well.

I am fine with Ford dropping the name or keeping it, the price will be the same, the car will be the same. It might be cheaper to make without the Shelby name but... Ford wont drop the price.




The GT500 is not 10k over priced due to the Shelby name, they dont pay Shelby 10k a car lol.... its not that much just for the name. I bet they probably pay X amt a year to use it and its probably not that much overall.. I would like to know though how much of it actually is tacked onto the GT500~Ii mean they probably spread it around etc. Its also not about getting that money back its about having an icon that Ford can use to sell other cars. People come in to seethe new Shelby and leave in a Fiesta.... lol

I typed up a comment and accidentally deleted it..

although, I guess a Hood does cost $18,000.00?
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The GT500 is not 10k over priced due to the Shelby name, they dont pay Shelby 10k a car lol.... its not that much just for the name.
That doesn't mean Ford didn't bump the price on their end because of the name and then tack on the additional shelby tax. The shelby is not worth 50k no matter how you slice it. Hell, the 2010 GT's aren't worth 30k either...but you can bet Ford definitely bumped the price more because of the shelby name even before they added the required shelby tax.
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yea, the current GT is priced high... but its based on the Market etc etc... just the way things are now... cost way more than they are worth.
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Cobra, yes. Shelby, no.
No offense but there's no logic to your madness. You're claiming the Shelby is overpriced yet the $50,000 Cobra isn't. I see your a Saleen fan so you're into euro-styling and most likely started driving in the 90's. For you too bash Shelby just because of the price is ridiculous. Shelby's are a different breed and priced accordingly. Remember, there wouldn't be a Cobra without Shelby.
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No offense but there's no logic to your madness. You're claiming the Shelby is overpriced yet the $50,000 Cobra isn't. I see your a Saleen fan so you're into euro-styling and most likely started driving in the 90's. For you too bash Shelby just because of the price is ridiculous. Shelby's are a different breed and priced accordingly. Remember, there wouldn't be a Cobra without Shelby.
Oh, I see, becuase I'm a young guy I don't know about the history of Mustangs, Cobra (AC or non-AC). Gimmie a break. The Shelby is over priced the general public would agree. If this wasn't the case then We would be looking at a $70,000 Boss.

Please don't even pull the age card b/c that is pointless. Shelby and Icocca have had their limelight. Time to give it to the relevant guys...
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Shelby's are a different breed and priced accordingly.
The older Shelbys are very nice and rare, but the new GT500 ones simply are not nearly as rare. The current Shelby GT500 is just a Cobra developed by SVT, its no different for having the word Shelby put on it. Thats all I am trying to get across. I have no real argument with the price point based on where it would be with or without the Shelby name~ thats for Ford to decide. Its not a higher 'breed' of car because it has Shelby on it. Ford is just great with marketing and I would have done the same thing.

I would purchase a GT500 just as I would a Cobra~ just because of what it can do not what name it has on it. My next vehicle will probably be a GT500 of some year~
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Remember Shelby is not Ford. He always had a love for Ford but they are separate companies. Remember when Shelby built this out of gm and olds parts. SVT should build the cobras. It's a Ford. Not a Shelby.
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Oh, I see, becuase I'm a young guy I don't know about the history of Mustangs, Cobra (AC or non-AC). Gimmie a break. The Shelby is over priced the general public would agree. If this wasn't the case then We would be looking at a $70,000 Boss.

Please don't even pull the age card b/c that is pointless. Shelby and Icocca have had their limelight. Time to give it to the relevant guys...
Now you're saying the new Boss is a better performer than the 500. Come on man, you're blatant hatred for Shelby has blinded you.
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