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Old 04-22-2013, 11:31 AM   #1
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2013 GT500 1/4 Mile Time Question

I was wondering if you guys could help explain something to me...

So with all the power that the 2013 GT500 has, why does it not have a better 1/4 mile time? If I remember right, it runs like 11 seconds (dont hold me to that)

Is it because while it has the power it kicks in too late for the 1/4 mile?
Wouldn't the supercharger help this?

I don't know a ton, so please forgive me if I am missing something 'obvious'

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It has A ton of power, but it is also geared longer so that it can hit a top speed of 200+ mph.
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It has A ton of power, but it is also geared longer so that it can hit a top speed of 200+ mph.
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gears and I would assume if you geared it diffrent that it would have major traction issues with that much power. I think there are a few people that have gotten them into the high 9's with minor mods.
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It "only" has 285 tires on the rear, although the launch control helps to overcome that. Also as mentioned above it has long gearing, it can hit 60 mph in 1st gear.

You've also got to remember its just shy of 4000 lbs, and combined with the fact that its about as aerodynamic as a brick doesn't help either
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gears and I would assume if you geared it diffrent that it would have major traction issues with that much power. I think there are a few people that have gotten them into the high 9's with minor mods.
When you say "would have major traction issues" what do you mean?
Like it would damage the car?

So do you think just changing the gears make it at least be in the 10s?

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It "only" has 285 tires on the rear, although the launch control helps to overcome that. Also as mentioned above it has long gearing, it can hit 60 mph in 1st gear.

You've also got to remember its just shy of 4000 lbs, and combined with the fact that its about as aerodynamic as a brick doesn't help either
So same question.
Tires and gears would get it in at least the 10s?
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When you say "would have major traction issues" what do you mean?
Like it would damage the car?

So do you think just changing the gears make it at least be in the 10s?

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So same question.
Tires and gears would get it in at least the 10s?
No I mean like if you put 4.10's you would have some bad *** wheel spin and lots of smoke but you would not go anywhere lol. It wouldn't hurt anything except your tires.
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By traction issues he means melting the tires instead of the car hoooking and launching down the track. Suspension and tire upgrades would be a must!
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If they could start the tree while he was at 45 mph, then we would see its power.
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By traction issues he means melting the tires instead of the car hoooking and launching down the track. Suspension and tire upgrades would be a must!
I am surprised that the suspension would need to be upgraded.
I am guessing the suspension is not something they upgrade when they go from the GT base to the GT500 (I am talking about "from factory" GT500)
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It's not stiff enough. It still has some give in it, ya know for the comfort end of the 70k
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From what I can find online, it looks like the 13 Shelby is at 11.5s and the super snake is at 10.6s.

So I guess the answer to my original question is "Make it a Super Snake"



But no seriously, I find it interesting what would need to be done
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So same question.
Tires and gears would get it in at least the 10s?
This has all been done in the magazines, I'm pretty sure just slicks and skinnies got it into low 11's, but don't quote me on that
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From what I can find online, it looks like the 13 Shelby is at 11.5s and the super snake is at 10.6s.

So I guess the answer to my original question is "Make it a Super Snake"



But no seriously, I find it interesting what would need to be done
From what I read in magazines from the factory, 11.8 to 12.0, there is a 11.6 with a real good driver a lot of seat time to get there.
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11s is plenty fast. It is as fast as most cars in it's power range are. They've already ran 10s on a tune and drag radials.
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11s is plenty fast. It is as fast as most cars in it's power range are. They've already ran 10s on a tune and drag radials.
It is FAST, I was just curious because you always hear about "10 second" cars, and often hear it from people talking about a Civic (ricers) and it just seemed odd to me that with how much power the Shelby has that it wouldnt be a "10 second car"
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It is FAST, I was just curious because you always hear about "10 second" cars, and often hear it from people talking about a Civic (ricers) and it just seemed odd to me that with how much power the Shelby has that it wouldnt be a "10 second car"
There are very few 10 second civics...the difference between 10's and 11's is like the difference between 13's and 17's.
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It is FAST, I was just curious because you always hear about "10 second" cars, and often hear it from people talking about a Civic (ricers) and it just seemed odd to me that with how much power the Shelby has that it wouldnt be a "10 second car"
The Shelby really doesn't have 'that much power'. It has plenty of power in terms of a street car.

Civics hit 10's easy because they are light and have a plethora of functional parts for them.

Now, at already low 13s, a civic becomes very difficult to DD in terms of driving aggressively on the street. My 2460 LB Celica blew the tires off on stock power (160whp 180 Crank), let alone a car that can hit 13s/12s/11s/10s.

The other problem is as you creep into 11s you need big power to shave off just a pinch of time.

Those 10 second civics are also lucky to have power windows, but your Shelby is drenched with many options and comforts.

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There are very few 10 second civics...the difference between 10's and 11's is like the difference between 13's and 17's.
I would not saw few. I would say there are no less or no more 10 second Civics than there are 10 second Mustangs.

Living in the East Coast, imports dominate everywhere (numbers wise).

ATCO Raceway is an official NHRA track and Honda Day is EVERY year the biggest even they have literally Dozens of 11/10/9 and 8 second Civics.
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Check out this story that we did and you can get a better understanding of putting power to the ground:

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The Shelby really doesn't have 'that much power'. It has plenty of power in terms of a street car.

Civics hit 10's easy because they are light and have a plethora of functional parts for them.

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Those 10 second civics are also lucky to have power windows, but your Shelby is drenched with many options and comforts.[COLOR="Silver"]

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ATCO Raceway is an official NHRA track and Honda Day is EVERY year the biggest even they have literally Dozens of 11/10/9 and 8 second Civics.
Maybe it is just my bias...
It just feels WRONG to think of a Civic being faster then the Shelby (at least in the 1/4 mile. I doubt that those Civics can hit 200MPH, but then again, I dont know, maybe just my bias)
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THAT IS AWESOME!

How much did the upgrades ending costing (the original, used to hit the high 9's)?

That answers my question as to what it would take to get into the 10's and more so!

Doesn't seem like all that much to get it there.
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The parts were less than $2,000 and then the install price.

No ... you just need the right combination of power, suspension, and especially a driver that can handle the gas if you know what i mean.

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Maybe it is just my bias...
It just feels WRONG to think of a Civic being faster then the Shelby (at least in the 1/4 mile. I doubt that those Civics can hit 200MPH, but then again, I dont know, maybe just my bias)
Well, at their power levels 200MPH is easily met.

If it runs an 8 at 160+, 200 MPH would be a blink given enough track. That being said, You'd have a better chance to have a street driven 8 or 9 second GT500 ANYDAY versus any street driven 8 second civic. Just not really possible/practical.

When we talk heavily modified cars which barely resemble their original life, then any argument is valid, but when we talk bolt on power and even altered stock parts such as cams or heads, a Civic is immediately outclassed.

I judge cars based on their ability while running their stock engine without serious modifications. So, like yourself, An 11 Second GT500 is more impressive to me than an 8 second Civic.
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You could make an 8 second minivan or a 8 second semi-truck with the right amount of money.

When you start talking highly modified cars the only real limit is $$$ if want to spend $600,000 on something I would imagine you can just say F u to whatever type of car it is lol
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Any car can beat any car if you put enough money into it today. Horsepower is only a number, people today live by there hp number thinking they can beat another car cause they have 50, 100, 200 hp more then the other guy. weight, trans gearing, rear end gears, chassis setup, the right tires and driver are just as important as hp in 1/4 mile racing.
Has anyone on here taken there 2013 stock GT500 to the track to see what time they get.
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You could make an 8 second minivan or a 8 second semi-truck with the right amount of money.

When you start talking highly modified cars the only real limit is $$$ if want to spend $600,000 on something I would imagine you can just say F u to whatever type of car it is lol
Funny you say that because there IS an 8 second 88 Caravan with a TT 350Z engine lol
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Funny you say that because there IS an 8 second 88 Caravan with a TT 350Z engine lol
Hahaha I would drive the **** out of that.
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The parts were less than $2,000 and then the install price.

No ... you just need the right combination of power, suspension, and especially a driver that can handle the gas if you know what i mean.

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If you guys want a new project, you can Sponsor getting my 2013 V6 into the high 10's or even low 11's
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Your dreaming...lol
In having it be a 11's or that they would sponsor?

the V6 (older model) has been made a 11s before.

As for the sponsoring... I know, but a guy can dream
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His dreaming what?
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In having it be a 11's or that they would sponsor?

the V6 (older model) has been made a 11s before.

As for the sponsoring... I know, but a guy can dream
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No it's possible to make it in the 11s and even lower whats highly unlikely is the sponsorship...lol but good luck with that
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Has anyone on here taken there 2013 stock GT500 to the track to see what time they get.
Didn't use mine, but I saw a 2013 do 11.81 last night. Guy was a little rough on the start, but really kicked in after 1st gear.
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It is FAST, I was just curious because you always hear about "10 second" cars, and often hear it from people talking about a Civic (ricers) and it just seemed odd to me that with how much power the Shelby has that it wouldnt be a "10 second car"
You need to think HP/weight. The jap cars can be fast with a lot less HP because they are lighter. Still, any 10 second jap car is heavily modded.
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