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Old 07-03-2015, 02:34 PM   #1
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That old Argument... 13/14, or Modify a 11/12 GT500?

So here's the deal, I was originally planning and saving to get a 15 Roush, 16 Shelby or maybe even Steeda's Streetfighter. Circumstances came up and now I'm looking at a private party sale for a 11-14 GT500. I can save quite a bit of money be going through a private party, (no tax from a dealership), and get a better price.

I'm going to be tracking probably 5-10 times a year, (I’m 10 minutes from AAA Fontana Speedway in SoCal), drag and auto cross + driving around town locally. I really want a car that can do both well. I really don’t want to spend more than about $50k total for the car + initial mods. I’d like to be near 600whp. I’ve been doing a bit of research and I think I’m going to go with one of the following:

2011 or 2012 GT500 (currently selling for high $30s to mid $40s) with performance package. Swap in a VMP Gen 2 S/C, CAI, TB, tune, new rotors & pads. (I prefer the aluminum block over the 2010 iron block).

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2013 or 2014 GT500 and leave it stock for quite some time (currently $50 - $60k). I might have to sacrifice the performance package, but it seems like there’s a lot more room for future growth.

Which would you do and why?

Besides the engine, is there anything else I should be taking into account (suspension, chassis, transmission Etc.) between these options.

Thanks all, I sold my 2011 5.0 in January and I can't wait to get back in the game!
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That old Argument... 13/14, or Modify a 11/12 GT500?

I'd get a GT350 personally. That Voodoo just appeals to the racer in me, and it's just stunning in white and blue stripes. Second choice could go either way. I'd choose the GT500, with all 3 packages (or 2, I can't remember) and it also depends on the color. I almost bought one, but the color I didn't really like. If I did buy it I'd wrap it in flat black. The Roush again could go either way with the GT500. Being the GT500 is the king of the S197 and the new gen has the IRS. Which I like all three but GT350 is first pick. Which you would have to wait till ford racing started making performance parts for the GT350. So you'll be stuck with 526HP, which isn't bad at all. Also depends on if you can get one too. Just my take on the matter.
I compare the 13-14 GT500, Roush and the GT350. I completely forgot about the others you posted about

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You gonna use it as a daily? I've read somewhere that one actually works better then the other as a dd but forgot the year. Either way, I'm sure either would do what you need but I guess I'd get the 14. Like you said for future growth, newer, looks alot better

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I'd recommend you talk to 1 Alibi 2. He has two Shelbys, a condor and a trinity. He could give you some advice on both and what they're like.


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What state do you live in? I would check into the no sales tax. Although you may not pay at time of purchase in NC you get a bill from the dmv with what they value the car at.

And j would personally go with the 13-14 if you can afford it but it really comes down to how much you want to spend and how deep your pockets are. If the 13-14 means not having any cash for mods will you be happy? Or prefer to save a lot and have some money for mods? Although there are differences both are amazing cars and can be made even better with mods!


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I'd prefer the GT350 to all of them, but there's just no way anyone is getting them anytime soon at or near MSRP. I've talked to 2 dealerships and they're not even interested in talking about trying to get one any time soon. I was told there'd be a minimum $10-15k markup no matter what.

I'm tired of dealing with them. Plus the 6k+ I'll save in tax and gas guzzler won't hurt.

I'm thinking after I bump the power I can pay more attention to suspension and brakes.

Also, if I did get the 350 I wouldn't be doing any mods until after warranty.
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I'd definitely do suspension and brakes before power increases.


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Damn, you just threw a wrench in the works... The DMV will charge me tax when I register. They get you coming and going.
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I'd definitely do suspension and brakes before power increases.


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Yeah, I'm thinking I might adjust my priorities, but it's so easy to do a CAI and tune.

What suspension pieces would you recommend immediately?
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That old Argument... 13/14, or Modify a 11/12 GT500?

CAI and tune is acceptable. I meant pullie/throttle body/injectors/full exhaust don't do them. Until you have a fully built suspension and the necessary braking power for your power goals. Like my car I'm not touching the engine until I get my brakes and suspension built then I'll start getting more power.
What's the point in having all that power if you can't get it to the ground well, or stop good.


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" drag and auto cross + driving around town locally. "
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A GT500 wouldn't be my 1st choice.
Not that owners don't auto cross them, but the car is better suited to 1/4 mile tracks.
With your budget, I would go for a 2015 GT, base car.
It's suspension is biased toward handling, & you can mod it suit your needs from there.
The aftermarket loves the 15, there are plenty of sites full of threads to give you ideas.
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" drag and auto cross + driving around town locally. "
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A GT500 wouldn't be my 1st choice.
Not that owners don't auto cross them, but the car is better suited to 1/4 mile tracks.
With your budget, I would go for a 2015 GT, base car.
It's suspension is biased toward handling, & you can mod it suit your needs from there.
The aftermarket loves the 15, there are plenty of sites full of threads to give you ideas.
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I've been toying with that idea as well. Maybe a 15 with a factory Roush SC, maintain the warranty and upgrade suspension where needed.
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