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Old 01-17-2012, 08:11 PM   #1
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99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

What is the major differences between the two?
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S/C and internals. Also the block aluminum vs iron.
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S/C and internals. Also the block aluminum vs iron.
Ok. Thanks for the info
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

Yah those are basically the mechanical or "important" differences.

The exterior got different bumper, hood, side skirt, mirror, spoiler, and wheel treatments.

The interior got the nicer suede seats with the cobra inserts. It also had the boost gage in the gauge cluster.

There might be some other differences but those are the major ones that come to mind.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 03-04 are supercharged whereas the 99-01 (and 02 in Australia) are not.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the 03-04 are supercharged whereas the 99-01 (and 02 in Australia) are not.
You're correct. The 99-01s came with 325ish HP, whereas the 03-04 came with 390hp (some 03-04 cobras dyno at or around 390rwhp, so it's believed that they're underrated)
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Thanks for all the replies
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Also the 03-04 have IRS. Most say it provides a much smoother ride.
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Also the 03-04 have IRS. Most say it provides a much smoother ride.
What does that stand for?

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What does that stand for?
IRS?
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Also the 03-04 have IRS. Most say it provides a much smoother ride.
The 99-01 have the IRS also. FYI
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The 99-01 have the IRS also. FYI
Wasn't aware of that! Thanks. And IRS is Independent Rear Suspension.
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

the 99-01 engine wise are pretty close to my Mach 1(block and rod wise ) ( except he Mach has 03/04 Cobra heads and cams )
exterior : different front and rear bumper covers , deck lid spoiler ,mirrors
inetrior : the seats , the rest I'm not positive on
engine : 03/04 cast iron block ,manley rods , 99-01 aluminum block , cast rods ( junk )
heads are slightly different as are the cams
and of coarse the big difference is the Super Charger and 6 speed trans !!!
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the 99-01 engine wise are pretty close to my Mach 1(block and rod wise ) ( except he Mach has 03/04 Cobra heads and cams )
exterior : different front and rear bumper covers , deck lid spoiler ,mirrors
inetrior : the seats , the rest I'm not positive on
engine : 03/04 cast iron block ,manley rods , 99-01 aluminum block , cast rods ( junk )
heads are slightly different as are the cams
and of coarse the big difference is the Super Charger and 6 speed trans !!!
Yep that 6 speed is a beast !!!!
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

the 03/04 is far superior in performance, read the FAQ Terminator FAQs
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

Everyone is forgetting about the windshield wipers. Geez, most important part. 03/04 windshield wipers have a shield added to them to prevent lift at high speeds.

Also, the 99/01 IRS is 28 spline at the diff, 31 spline at the hub.
03/04 is 31 spline at diff and hub.

Different front bumper, hood, side skirts, side scoops, spoiler, rear bumper.
Different engine, transmission, driveshaft, and rear end.
Updated suspension with bilstein shocks/struts.
Different seats and gauge cluster.

So pretty much, no similarities.
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The spoiler is unique to the 03
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

this is true, the wiper blades ARE different. I need a set to put up... also the side scoop inserts are also different
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

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Yep that 6 speed is a beast !!!!
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Everyone is forgetting about the windshield wipers. Geez, most important part. 03/04 windshield wipers have a shield added to them to prevent lift at high speeds.

Also, the 99/01 IRS is 28 spline at the diff, 31 spline at the hub.
03/04 is 31 spline at diff and hub.

Different front bumper, hood, side skirts, side scoops, spoiler, rear bumper.
Different engine, transmission, driveshaft, and rear end.
Updated suspension with bilstein shocks/struts.
Different seats and gauge cluster.

So pretty much, no similarities.
God dammit I was going to say that in my post but I figured eh, who cares about the details lol.

Same for the side scoop inserts..they match the hood extractor vents, but the side scoops aren't functional.
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I think a better comparison is the 2000 cobra r 5.4l vs the 03/04 termy what do u think?
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I think a better comparison is the 2000 cobra r 5.4l vs the 03/04 termy what do u think?
I would love to havee a cobra r. But the 03/04 would stomp the cobra r.
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I dont know about that they rated the 5.4l cobra r a 385hp the same as the 4.6 cobra r but u know its pushing way more then that it would be an awsome race thats for sure.
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I dont know about that they rated the 5.4l cobra r a 385hp the same as the 4.6 cobra r but u know its pushing way more then that it would be an awsome race thats for sure.
The 03/04 are underated to begin with. U would have to own one to understand when i sold
Mine to my uncle it put down 585 to the tires with meth inj. Plus the cobra r was made for the road cource.
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U didnt think i was talking about a drag race did u? Lol full course race or no race its the onlyway to see which is truelly superior.
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I dont know about that they rated the 5.4l cobra r a 385hp the same as the 4.6 cobra r but u know its pushing way more then that it would be an awsome race thats for sure.
Which one are u talking about when u say 4.6 cobra r. Bc they didnt manke the cobra R with a 4.6?

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U didnt think i was talking about a drag race did u? Lol full course race or no race its the onlyway to see which is truelly superior.
Dont do the course race stuff so cant help u there
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Which one are u talking about when u say 4.6 cobra r. Bc they didnt manke the cobra R with a 4.6?
Actually they did lol. They only made a few "track ready" cobra r's with the 5.4l the rest were destened for street use and had the less powerfull 4.6l in it. Iv looked up stats on the cobra r many times and allways come accross litrature on both but they speak as though all were made with the 4.6l or all were made with the 5.4l its taken quit alot of digging to find out the truth about it and even what i found proves nothing other then the cobra r had eather engine in it depending on which one u were looking at all were the same color and same body goofy spoiler and all.
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Actually they did lol. They only made a few "track ready" cobra r's with the 5.4l the rest were destened for street use and had the less powerfull 4.6l in it. Iv looked up stats on the cobra r many times and allways come accross litrature on both but they speak as though all were made with the 4.6l or all were made with the 5.4l its taken quit alot of digging to find out the truth about it and even what i found proves nothing other then the cobra r had eather engine in it depending on which one u were looking at all were the same color and same body goofy spoiler and all.
Seriously lol? Come on man the 2000 cobra Rs. Only 300 were made all had a 5.4 in them. Then the 95 cobra R had a 351 which is a 5.8. And the 93 cobra R had a 5.0

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Actually they did lol. They only made a few "track ready" cobra r's with the 5.4l the rest were destened for street use and had the less powerfull 4.6l in it. Iv looked up stats on the cobra r many times and allways come accross litrature on both but they speak as though all were made with the 4.6l or all were made with the 5.4l its taken quit alot of digging to find out the truth about it and even what i found proves nothing other then the cobra r had eather engine in it depending on which one u were looking at all were the same color and same body goofy spoiler and all.
Not trying to sound like a *** but get your facts straight b4 u try arguing.
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First im not arguing. Ive googled it to bud i know what u read but in 2001 or 2002 i followed an ebay bidding on a documented and numbered cobra r that had a 4.6lsc engine i ***** u not it was no clone i also read in a ford racing magazine shortly after its relise that they were only putting 5.4l engines in a very small amount of cobra r's destined solly for track use now i know what the "google troll" fact finders are going to say but man i was there bidding on the freaking car my self i know i dont need to read it to find out.
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First im not arguing. Ive googled it to bud i know what u read but in 2001 or 2002 i followed an ebay bidding on a documented and numbered cobra r that had a 4.6lsc engine i ***** u not it was no clone i also read in a ford racing magazine shortly after its relise that they were only putting 5.4l engines in a very small amount of cobra r's destined solly for track use now i know what the "google troll" fact finders are going to say but man i was there bidding on the freaking car my self i know i dont need to read it to find out.
Dude whatever u say keep relying on your google then lol.

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I know what im talking about all 300 had the 5.4. Prove it to me then if they didnt since u know all lol?
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thumbs up for both cars how about that guys
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Re: 99-01 cobra vs 03-04 cobra

Cobra R = 385 crank hp
Terminator = 430 crank hp (yes they were underrated)

That's 45hp difference right out the gate. Don't forget that with simple bolt on's the Terminator gets up to 480whp (that's Wheel hp) so easy! Engine is good up to 1000whp. Cobra R is an Epic machine but does not even come close to the Performance of the Terminator.
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Cobra R = 385 crank hp
Terminator = 430 crank hp (yes they were underrated)

That's 45hp difference right out the gate. Don't forget that with simple bolt on's the Terminator gets up to 480whp (that's Wheel hp) so easy! Engine is good up to 1000whp. Cobra R is an Epic machine but does not even come close to the Performance of the Terminator.
It also doesn't come with a blower, just sayin.. R v. Termi is apples to oranges IMO....
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It also doesn't come with a blower, just sayin.. R v. Termi is apples to oranges IMO....
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Not to mention the fact that the Cobra R is more of a purpose built race car!...
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Actually they did lol. They only made a few "track ready" cobra r's with the 5.4l the rest were destened for street use and had the less powerfull 4.6l in it. Iv looked up stats on the cobra r many times and allways come accross litrature on both but they speak as though all were made with the 4.6l or all were made with the 5.4l its taken quit alot of digging to find out the truth about it and even what i found proves nothing other then the cobra r had eather engine in it depending on which one u were looking at all were the same color and same body goofy spoiler and all.
Not true at all the 2000 Cobra R came only in 5.4 variant. Ford stopped production of all 4.6 cobras in 2000 for the fix(Intake issue). New Edge NA cobras were buit for 99 and 01. There were few 02 cobras built but were not sold in the US and were coverted to right hand drive. Ford was retooling for the 03 terminator. I also have a rare 2000 Cobra dealer advertisment spec sheet from when I worked at a ford garage. They were pulled from dealers for that issue.
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