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Old 04-12-2011, 05:40 PM   #1
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I need to get my paint lookin spiffy. What polish, clay bar, glaze, and wax do you recommend.
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I have heard that the clay bar works good but I have never tried it myself to be honest.
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Is a claybar's function the same as a polish? I mean I believe they both strip the paint a degree to be sealed and waxed afterwards.
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The claybar completely removes all wax layers and contaminants from your paint, basically leaving your paint exposed. That's why it is imperative to re-wax your car after doing a clay bar.

Most waxes remove some contaminants and dirt but don't really remove previous wax layers. They basically stack.

Clay bars are sort of the new polishing method. They are much easier to use and don't contain the hard abrasives that some polishes do.
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Big +1 from me on the clay bar! I use them on all the cars I get. Really makes a difference.
You can pick up a kit for $20. Some of the best money I've ever spent.
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Yah the kits are very nice...comes with everything you need...quick detailer, fiber towel, clay bars, case...great buy. I went with the Meguiars kit and was very satisfied.
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Yah the kits are very nice...comes with everything you need...quick detailer, fiber towel, clay bars, case...great buy. I went with the Meguiars kit and was very satisfied.
+1 same kit I got. Came with 2 clay bars and he rest of the things mentioned. Very good deal!
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Alright cool, that was my main question was if it used any abrasives that may not break down completely. So with a claybar will it strip the paint down as far as polish will. And does anyone use glazes on here.
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Basically all the clay bar does is take all the impurities off of the surface of the paint. It doesn't take off any of the clearcoat at all. It will remove adhesive, bugs, tar, tree sap, overspray, and anything else that attaches to your paint.
After you use a clay bar on an area of the car, feel the difference, you will be nicely surprised by the outcome.
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Nice I like that a lot. You got any glazes to recommend.
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Nice I like that a lot. You got any glazes to recommend.
Sure don't, sorry, I've never used any.
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I use only meguiars products I think they work best for me.
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I use only meguiars products I think they work best for me.
Meguiars seemed to be the most advertised so I was prolly gonna with that.
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depends on how much TLC is needed, you may need to buff it and cut it, just buff it, or just by hand~ just depends on how much love the paint requires.
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I did it all by hand because I dont know how much of the clearcoat has been shaved down. It took so damn long, I washed it, clay barred it, used a polish like glaze, then carnueba wax to finish it off. All the products were meguiars. I'll post some pics tomorrow but for the way the paint was, it looks pretty good. The glaze I used filled in alot of scratches but not all of em, but it was totally worth it.
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I would suggest washing the car with some Dawn dishwashing liquid before the clay bar,it will strip the old wax.
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I would suggest washing the car with some Dawn dishwashing liquid before the clay bar,it will strip the old wax.
The clay bar strips all the wax anyway. Just extra work to wash with dish soap, especially if the car is already clean.
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Mothers all the way for me, never use anything else.
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The clay bar strips all the wax anyway. Just extra work to wash with dish soap, especially if the car is already clean.
Claying aggressively enough to remove wax, but *gently* enough to not mar the paint, can be tricky.This why I suggested dishwashing liquid or a citrus wash.
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Claying aggressively enough to remove wax, but *gently* enough to not mar the paint, can be tricky.This why I suggested dishwashing liquid or a citrus wash.
Yes people reading don't get in the habit of washing your car with dish soap all the time though...it's hard on the paint and shouldn't be used every wash. As said, it does remove the wax and that's the only time you should use it.
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Yes people reading don't get in the habit of washing your car with dish soap all the time though...it's hard on the paint and shouldn't be used every wash. As said, it does remove the wax and that's the only time you should use it.
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Yes people reading don't get in the habit of washing your car with dish soap all the time though...it's hard on the paint and shouldn't be used every wash. As said, it does remove the wax and that's the only time you should use it.
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Is Joy the same thing as Dawn? Do they both work?
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Yes,any dishsoap will do.
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Sorry I'm late to the party here guys, but figured I could shed some light on the situation.

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Clay bars are sort of the new polishing method. They are much easier to use and don't contain the hard abrasives that some polishes do.
Actually clay and polishes are completely unrelated. Clay does absolutely nothing for swirl marks, etching, or other types of surface damage. A claybars sole purpose is to decontaminate the paint. They can be used to remove overspray, tree sap, water stains, fallout, iron deposits, and anything else thats bonded surface contamination that won't remove with standard washing. Again though, clay does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to address scratches, swirl marks, etching or other damage in the clear coat as it is not a polishing or compounding process.

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The clay bar strips all the wax anyway. Just extra work to wash with dish soap, especially if the car is already clean.
Yes and no... clay will remove wax, but the upside to using a 'pre wash' or 'strip wash' is breaking down the wax prior to claying so it doesn't clog up your bar. Claying to remove wax can be messy and shorten the usable life of your clay. Seeing as dishsoap has no negative impact on your finish other than to strip your wax it makes sense to include it as its part of a step you need to do prior to claying anyways (washing) and will save your claybar from becoming clogged up with spent wax.

If working panel by panel another method for stripping wax is to use isopropyl alcohol (available at almost any drug or grocery store) and simply spray it on the panel and wipe away with a microfiber towel. Either method is effective, just a matter of preference and what fits your process best.

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Yes,any dishsoap will do.
Actually no... original dawn is the most commonly accepted standard for its stripping ability. Many dish soaps don't break up wax well, and others will actually deposit oily films and additives to the paint that can lead to other issues. If you chose to use dish-soap to strip a vehicle your best option is original Dawn liquid.
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What do you use to clean convertible tops?
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What do you use to clean convertible tops?
order ragg topp cleaner... I need to order some more ... its good stuff. You may can find it locally.
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order ragg topp cleaner... I need to order some more ... its good stuff. You may can find it locally.
Agreed. We've been working on coming up with a cleaner and protectant for convertible tops, but its been a lot of trial and error. The biggest issue comes from the variety of materials that are used. A mustang top is different than a corvette top, is different from a porsche top, is different from a 370z top, etc.

Ragg Topp still is about the best choice out there for convertible top cleaning and care, but we hope to change that eventually

You can also check local Marine Supply stores if you have any... sometimes they'll have canvas cleaners and protectants in stock that may be worth a try.
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Thanks! That helps. I never knew what to use that wouldn't harm it.
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ive got to order some ragg topp cleaner... i mout
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