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Old 06-20-2011, 02:08 PM   #71
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I wash mine with a couple of miller lites
So that's what Miller is good for..
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Seriously I work at Advance Auto so I buy what is on special. I do like the Ice Products
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Yes the turtle wax ice car wash works good but I think the wax is too hard to use because I like wax I can see to wipe off.
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Belive it or not. The simplest way to remidy this HARD WATER......
Is to keep a nice clean chamois in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid half full of water and are you ready??????
1.5 cups of bleach, after u wax / wash your ride and give it a Quick once around with this chamois you will have no spots/ streaks/ etc. You will be so pleased with the results you will want to send me money. Trust me im a Jedi................................
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Belive it or not. The simplest way to remidy this HARD WATER......
Is to keep a nice clean chamois in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid half full of water and are you ready??????
1.5 cups of bleach, after u wax / wash your ride and give it a Quick once around with this chamois you will have no spots/ streaks/ etc. You will be so pleased with the results you will want to send me money. Trust me im a Jedi................................
Not getting what your saying explain the bleach part?
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:57 PM   #76
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Optimum's car wash smells like blue berries FTW. My dad walked outside and said why does it smell like blue berries one day lmao
Haha ill invest in that
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Does anybody remember the Mr Clean Auto clean kit. I liked that cleaning gun with the special soap and filter for the spot free rinse. Then I couldnt find the soap or the fiter any where.
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Great point! Mr. Clean kit has bleach in it. Bleach softens the water and by doing so, enables you to make one trip around your car with Minimal effort dry ur ride with no streaks or spotS in the shade.
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I did not know that!
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I would not put bleach in my car wash water
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Yeah bleach yeah I dont know. I guess it safe for clothes shouldnt hurt paint.
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Let me try to clear this up. Ive been doing paint and body for 20 some years. And have seen heard and tried alot of diffrent things related to auto paint protection and preservation.
And when i tell you THIS WORKS you can belive me it does.
I actually got this tip from one of the Body Shops I worked in from the detail dept. And also this is how large dealerships wash all the new cars on the lot. Pressure wash them with water containing bleach they dont even have to dry them off.
( YOU DONT PUT BLEACH IN YOUR CAR WASH SOAP!!!!)
YOU KEEP IT IN A SEPERATE BUCKET WITH A LID AND KEEP THE CHAMOIS IN THAT BUCKET)
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Ok for a 5 gallon bucket how much bleach?
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does it turn the chamois white.
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Belive it or not. The simplest way to remidy this HARD WATER......
Is to keep a nice clean chamois in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid half full of water and are you ready??????
1.5 cups of bleach, after u wax / wash your ride and give it a Quick once around with this chamois you will have no spots/ streaks/ etc. You will be so pleased with the results you will want to send me money. Trust me im a Jedi................................
No offense, but that is some of the worst advice I've ever seen posted in a detailing discussion.

Fact is the bleach is VERY alkaline... a pH somewhere in the realm of 12-13... even mixed with 5 gallons your pH level is still way off neutral, so essentially what you're doing is stripping every bit of wax and/or sealant from the finish and likely drying out any rubber/plastic/vinyl trim that it contacts as well.

Car washing, especially regular maintenance washing when you're trying to preserve wax/sealant protection on the finish should be done with a pH neutral soap ONLY. This prevents the LSP's from being stripped giving them longer durability as well as if you're washing in direct sunlight or high heat lowers the chances of finish etching or water spotting.

The process you described would essentially strip every bit of protection from the finish, effectively removing any wax you had put down and leaving the paint absolutely unprotected. You're basically working against yourself.
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Thanks for chiming in Dylan!
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I always listen to experts on most things and i think Dylan knows what he is talking about so I will take his advice.
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No offence taken. But for some reason pple have a tendency to chime in on things that they have never tried. Break it down however u like. But u will have no water spots by using this method. And also you of all pple should know? That there are many knowledgable professionals out there and all have advice. So don't u dare say my advise is bad. When u know little of what I say.
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Ooo thread is getting interesting...
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No offence taken. But for some reason pple have a tendency to chime in on things that they have never tried. Break it down however u like. But u will have no water spots by using this method. And also you of all pple should know? That there are many knowledgable professionals out there and all have advice. So don't u dare say my advise is bad. When u know little of what I say.
I never disputed the fact you didn't have water spots... honestly though if you're looking at it from a basic chemistry standpoint you'd want vinegar for the wipe down, not bleach as you're attempting to remove mineral (calcium, iron, etc) deposits, but even there vinegar will strip the finish of any protection thats been applied just to a lesser extent. FWIW vinegar is on the opposite side of the spectrum, an acidic ph around 3-4 undiluted with 7 being neutral.

The fact of the matter is that your method, though it may remove water spots ALSO removes any protection from the paint.

By your very post it states "after u wax"... the fact is using a non-neutral pH mixture of anything (alkaline or acidic) will strip waxes and sealants from the finish leaving it unprotected. As I established in my first reply bleach sports an alkaline ph around 12-13 which cannot be neutralized by 5 gallons of water.... so by your methodology people should apply wax, then remove it the very next wash cycle? Seems a little counter productive don't you think?

The reason I'm chiming in on something I haven't tried is I wouldn't ever try it as I have an understanding of what the process would do. The things I'm posting aren't speculative or hearsay, they're based on over 14 years of high level detailing experience and the fact I work for a company developing car care products.

You could suggest washing cars with a brick, wrapped in barbed wire, and dipped into a bucket of playground sand - doesn't mean I have to try it to know its a bad idea.
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Thanks Dylan! I wanted to use the sample pack today but we are finally getting rain.
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Thanks Dylan! I wanted to use the sample pack today but we are finally getting rain.
Awe lalayla... You clean the thread up....
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Thanks Dylan! I wanted to use the sample pack today but we are finally getting rain.
Thats always the way it goes isn't it... if you plan on washing it will rain, and if it doesn't giving your car a wash will cause it to.
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Awe lalayla... You clean the thread up....
Whatchu talking about? :

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Thats always the way it goes isn't it... if you plan on washing it will rain, and if it doesn't giving your car a wash will cause it to.
Isn't that the truth!!! We need it bad so I'm trying not to complain.
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Whatchu talking about? :

Isn't that the truth!!! We need it bad so I'm trying not to complain.
I thought I saw some posts disappear...
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I thought I saw some posts disappear...
Great attention to detail there buddy.
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Great attention to detail there buddy.
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I used to HATE any rain EVER... but thankfully since I dont DD my car I dont mind it.. I have crap to worry about now like my grass looking good....
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I used to HATE any rain EVER... but thankfully since I dont DD my car I dont mind it.. I have crap to worry about now like my grass looking good....
I want a garage queen that would be awesome to have one to take out when it is nice out.

My friend, Carl, has a classic Cali Special that is garage kept and only goes out now and then on sunny days to get some fender lovin' at Hooters. Lol
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yea, i love not having to wash my car but now and again, mainly dust it and spot cleaning (bugs)
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I used to HATE any rain EVER... but thankfully since I dont DD my car I dont mind it.. I have crap to worry about now like my grass looking good....
Even if I had a garage queen, I still don't think I'd worry too much about the grass. Stupid Weeds never end. Astro turf FTW.
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LOL... we're thinking of re-doing my sons play area in the backyard with synthetic turf... until I started looking into it I had no idea how complicated the options were!
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LOL... we're thinking of re-doing my sons play area in the backyard with synthetic turf... until I started looking into it I had no idea how complicated the options were!
Hmm. Wow I've learned a lot today. Never thought about different turf options. That sounds more challenging than deciding wheather or not to just wash or detail the car.
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It May work. But it doesn't really matter to detail shops and dealers if your vehicles paint is in the best shape. We here want good results with protection.
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