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Old 04-18-2013, 11:44 PM   #1
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What is this called?

I've washed my car twice now in the city since ive moved. Both times I get this weird hazed, or just not shiny appearance all over my brand new black. How do I remove it, and more importantly, what is it?

Also I'm not putting a buffer or anything abrasive in even the finest amount on my car. I've spent too much money for this conversion to have my inexperience mess this up with something I'm not comfortable with.

May hardly be able to see but that smudge or whatever is all over my black panels. But the white looks fine
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I've washed my car twice now in the city since ive moved. Both times I get this weird hazed, or just not shiny appearance all over my brand new black. How do I remove it, and more importantly, what is it?

Also I'm not putting a buffer or anything abrasive in even the finest amount on my car. I've spent too much money for this conversion to have my inexperience mess this up with something I'm not comfortable with.

May hardly be able to see but that smudge or whatever is all over my black panels. But the white looks fine
It is city water haze. Do you dry the car or do you let mother nature do it for you? Get an electric leaf blower and use it after you dry your car to get the water sitting behind the mirrors and such. It is on the white also you just don't see it as much. I have a dark blue car and I get the same thing.
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It is city water haze. Do you dry the car or do you let mother nature do it for you? Get an electric leaf blower and use it after you dry your car to get the water sitting behind the mirrors and such. It is on the white also you just don't see it as much. I have a dark blue car and I get the same thing.
I second the electric leaf blower for drying if water is used to wash the car. I have switched 100% to waterless wash some time ago and achieve amazing results and doing my part to reduce chemicals going into our drinking water.
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It is city water haze. Do you dry the car or do you let mother nature do it for you? Get an electric leaf blower and use it after you dry your car to get the water sitting behind the mirrors and such. It is on the white also you just don't see it as much. I have a dark blue car and I get the same thing.
I use a water blade single swipe and the rest is a bath towel dry. No fabric softner. Just detergent.

I clayed, detailed, waxed and detailed again. I think its my putting too much detailer on it. It will rub off but will come back as almost an oil or stain.

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I second the electric leaf blower for drying if water is used to wash the car. I have switched 100% to waterless wash some time ago and achieve amazing results and doing my part to reduce chemicals going into our drinking water.
Does it take away road grime? And does it do that haze?
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I use a water blade single swipe and the rest is a bath towel dry. No fabric softner. Just detergent.

Stop using a bath towel! You'll make your paint even worse with all the scratches the towel will put in the paint. Invest in some quality mircrofibers!
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Never ever use anything other than a microfiber towel for drying. Never cotton. This haze is 1 of 4 things. 1 water with dissolved crap in it, possibly oils too. 2 just leftover product which needs to be buffed off with a microfiber towel and a little elbow grease. 3 poor quality spray wax r spray wax that has gotten too old and the solvents have separated from the waxes. 4 synthetic spray wax. It needs more work to get it to shine. Keep working it with the microfiber towel. Again. Never use a bath towel on your car ever again.
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I use a water blade single swipe and the rest is a bath towel dry. No fabric softner. Just detergent.

I clayed, detailed, waxed and detailed again. I think its my putting too much detailer on it. It will rub off but will come back as almost an oil or stain.

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Does it take away road grime? And does it do that haze?
Yes and No. I use only Croftgate waterless products and enjoy amazing results with no hose or water. Check it out or feel free to email me at CroftgteIL@comcast.net
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Stop using a bath towel! You'll make your paint even worse with all the scratches the towel will put in the paint. Invest in some quality mircrofibers!
It hasn't messed up my paint? Trust me.
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Never ever use anything other than a microfiber towel for drying. Never cotton. This haze is 1 of 4 things. 1 water with dissolved crap in it, possibly oils too. 2 just leftover product which needs to be buffed off with a microfiber towel and a little elbow grease. 3 poor quality spray wax r spray wax that has gotten too old and the solvents have separated from the waxes. 4 synthetic spray wax. It needs more work to get it to shine. Keep working it with the microfiber towel. Again. Never use a bath towel on your car ever again.
Not a scratch. If done right and lightly, it will work. I just graze over it. Like take one end and just swoosh it over the area then detail it. I use meguiars detailer but just switch to zymöl. It's woth the $12 a bottle.
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Still have haze though :/
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It hasn't messed up my paint? Trust me.
Not saying that is what messed up your paint. I just wouldn't use anything other than microfiber for anything on my car. Know you said you've clayed but have you tried polishing out the spot?
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Not saying that is what messed up your paint. I just wouldn't use anything other than microfiber for anything on my car. Know you said you've clayed but have you tried polishing out the spot?
It's brand new paint? I hope you're talking about a smooth polish and nothing abrasive in any means? Since I've done all this, I think next month ill strip it down with dawn and just wax it and the detail it. If it can get oil off birds. It can get oily residue off paint.
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It's brand new paint? I hope you're talking about a smooth polish and nothing abrasive in any means? Since I've done all this, I think next month ill strip it down with dawn and just wax it and the detail it. If it can get oil off birds. It can get oily residue off paint.
Abrasive polish is the only thing that removes clear coat haze.
Quit talking down to the people here when you asked for help. You cleanly do not know what the problem is and we are trying to help. Your snarky retorts are not the thanks that these people deserve.
You can refuse to use abrasives if you want, you'll just have to deal with paint haze. Abrasives are a good thing! I love them!
In all honesty, you really need to stop using bath towels. There's a reason everyone here flipped when you said that.
Even brand new paint can have defects. Orange-peel is the biggest issue.

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Are you hand washing it? I know if I go through a spotless wash it will leave a haze like that and if I use my shammy on it I will get a ton of black dirt all over the towel. If i wash by hand it comes out much more shiny and the shammy will be clean as a whistle.
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Abrasive polish is the only thing that removes clear coat haze.
Quit talking down to the people here when you asked for help. You cleanly do not know what the problem is and we are trying to help. Your snarky retorts are not the thanks that these people deserve.
You can refuse to use abrasives if you want, you'll just have to deal with paint haze. Abrasives are a good thing! I love them!
In all honesty, you really need to stop using bath towels. There's a reason everyone here flipped when you said that.
Even brand new paint can have defects. Orange-peel is the biggest issue.

Evidence that I'm not just trying to talk you into something and I really do know what I'm talking about, all achieved by using abrasive compounds (Meg's M105, M205, Menzerna final polish):
I'm just frustrated with the fact that I've done all this and its still there. 6 hours in and its still there. I'm an *** and for that I'm sorry. That's my personality. I'm arrogant and irrational.

It was flawless paint. I understand I messed it up. I am just a scared little punk *** kid with a mustang that doesn't want to ruin the ride I'm going to have for the next ten years. I'm sorry, so sorry.

I've been taught through my father. We have 3 show cars and he's always used a simple bath towels. Not really anything wrong cause we water blade it before.

I'm not trying to be an *** on here but I absolutely hate being called out like this. I'm sorry my little punk *** tried to ask for help. When you dump a Buick in paint, you'll feel me. But that's about all ill say and ill take my next warning with pride. Thanks though guys. Love y'all
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It's weird and only in certain lights. To the guy that's said buff it, that helped a good bit but now %100. Just too scared to use abrasives.
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Have you taken it back to the body shop? It may be a little orange peel or something that they can buff out.
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I suggest trying Megs 205 by hand or a DA polisher and a black pad which is a very light agressive approach. I also agree with 99Ford that maybe you visit the body shop and see what they can do.
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Abrasive polish is the only thing that removes clear coat haze.
Quit talking down to the people here when you asked for help. You cleanly do not know what the problem is and we are trying to help. Your snarky retorts are not the thanks that these people deserve.
You can refuse to use abrasives if you want, you'll just have to deal with paint haze. Abrasives are a good thing! I love them!
In all honesty, you really need to stop using bath towels. There's a reason everyone here flipped when you said that.
Even brand new paint can have defects. Orange-peel is the biggest issue.

Evidence that I'm not just trying to talk you into something and I really do know what I'm talking about, all achieved by using abrasive compounds (Meg's M105, M205, Menzerna final polish):
Come on, lets keep it cool here. And done right bath towls are just as good as microfibers. I use bath towels to dry my car and my paint that was mistreated by the previous owners looks 10x better than the day i brought it home, all with bath towls to dry my car every single weekend. Also there are no swirl marks on my car at all, even before i did a compound and polish for the show i went to (and won 2nd place). Besides, my bath towels are almost as soft as microfibers so you don't know how soft his are either.
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Come on, lets keep it cool here. And done right bath towls are just as good as microfibers. I use bath towels to dry my car and my paint that was mistreated by the previous owners looks 10x better than the day i brought it home, all with bath towls to dry my car every single weekend. Also there are no swirl marks on my car at all, even before i did a compound and polish for the show i went to (and won 2nd place). Besides, my bath towels are almost as soft as microfibers so you don't know how soft his are either.
Finally someone sees the magic.
I don't bare down on them. I use a sweep motion much like the water blade. Just to wipe the water. I never put fabric softner in them so they are still pretty soft for paint

Thanks also Andrew for helping me out. I appreciate it.
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Next time people go making accusations, why not base everything off of age and background. Ill put a stop to those stereotypes real quick.
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Next time people go making accusations, why not base everything off of age and background. Ill put a stop to those stereotypes real quick.
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So another question. I was washing dishes tonight and cleaning my George Forman ( oh the burgers) and I was using hot water to get the grease and eww off. Anywho, would warm or almost hot water in the soap bucket help take this off or will it act like dawn and just strip the wax? I've used warm after in the winter and hooked it up to the water heater for warm hose water.
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Abrasive polish is the only thing that removes clear coat haze.
Quit talking down to the people here when you asked for help. You cleanly do not know what the problem is and we are trying to help. Your snarky retorts are not the thanks that these people deserve.
You can refuse to use abrasives if you want, you'll just have to deal with paint haze. Abrasives are a good thing! I love them!
In all honesty, you really need to stop using bath towels. There's a reason everyone here flipped when you said that.
Even brand new paint can have defects. Orange-peel is the biggest issue.

Evidence that I'm not just trying to talk you into something and I really do know what I'm talking about, all achieved by using abrasive compounds (Meg's M105, M205, Menzerna final polish):
Dude you need to back off. Don't talk down to people as if you know everything because you certainly don't. All he did was ask a question and you respond with this? How old are you twelve? Why not just help him instead of trying to start a fight over the Internet. Grow up.
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Used al this again after my 6 hour detail and the haze is almost gone. Gonna dawn it and re do it all except clay bar. Thanks peeps
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Used al this again after my 6 hour detail and the haze is almost gone. Gonna dawn it and re do it all except clay bar. Thanks peeps
Looks like your hard work is starting to pay off.

Just want to say, haze or no haze, that is one beautiful ride you have there.

Take good care of her.
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