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Old 06-09-2014, 12:45 AM   #36
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Dish soap is a big no no on cars. It damages your clear coat over time. Always invest in some quality car Soap form turtle or meguires or chem guys. Dish soap is only good with water for lubercating sandpaper if you have a freshly painted pannel.

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I think you might haven taken that the wrong way. No one was suggesting using dish soap as a regular shampoo,just as a way to strip wax off if you dont have access or the money for a clay bar. But you are right.....always use as quality shampoo. I've been using the "gold class" and couldn't be happier with it.
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If I use a clay bar do I have to use cleaner wax then wax or can I go from clay bar to waxing and call it good
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If I use a clay bar do I have to use cleaner wax then wax or can I go from clay bar to waxing and call it good
This is something that a lot of people get confused on as many do not understand the difference in an AIO also known as a cleaner wax, and a finishing wax. As an independent detailer like many out there, we utilize tools, guides and one another from the Autogeek board. There are many tips and how to's on the forum and the Autogeek.net page that will break a lot of this stuff down for you and help you understand the "correct" process when detailing and when to use what product etc.

Scottad3, the condition of your paint is going to determine what steps you need to take. If you feel the paint is fine and just needs a wash, clay, and wax then that's personal preference. Cleaner waxes have cleaning properties to polish at the same time but also a sealant to give protection. Some people will add a wax over the cleaner wax which isn't necessary but this is known as "topping" it doesn't hurt anything and will simply add a more slick feeling to the paints finish.

Take a look at both of the links below, this will help clarify a lot of the questions within this thread.

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Thanks a lot . Huge help . Very detailed and straight to the point . Just how I like it
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I'm going to try to clay bar my hood then compound, polish and wax all with meguiars. Hopefully it gets rid of the swirls/scratches.
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I think you might haven taken that the wrong way. No one was suggesting using dish soap as a regular shampoo,just as a way to strip wax off if you dont have access or the money for a clay bar. But you are right.....always use as quality shampoo. I've been using the "gold class" and couldn't be happier with it.
Yes, I ment as a regular shampoo, but I still wouldent use it. Just my 2 cents.

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I'm going to try to clay bar my hood then compound, polish and wax all with meguiars. Hopefully it gets rid of the swirls/scratches.
update us and let us know how/what works!
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Will do. I attended our local mustang clubs gathering this weekend. Not sure what year but saw a Grabber Orange Boss 302. Came in my pants when I saw how amazingly clean it was.

0 scratches. 0 dirt. Nothing.
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Will do. I attended our local mustang clubs gathering this weekend. Not sure what year but saw a Grabber Orange Boss 302. Came in my pants when I saw how amazingly clean it was.

0 scratches. 0 dirt. Nothing.
if i had one and i was able, i'd do the same. but i'd still need another mustang for DD lol
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looks good!
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so what process did you use here? hopefully going to be working on it this weekend... and about how long did the whole process take?
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I hand washed then clay bar then waxed . Had a random orbital to apply the wax but found it easier to put it on by hand . Then used the orbital to buff then went over it all by hand just to make sure I got it all off . 4.5 hours give or take a few
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I hand washed then clay bar then waxed . Had a random orbital to apply the wax but found it easier to put it on by hand . Then used the orbital to buff then went over it all by hand just to make sure I got it all off . 4.5 hours give or take a few
looking at the orbitals.. is it necessary to pay the big price? is it really that much of a difference? i'll be looking at removing swirls, but don't want to break the bank on more of a machine than i really need...
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Orbitals can get pretty expensive. You do want a variable speed one though. Most people go with the Porter cable 7424XP as their first. I personally went straight to a rotary like most people don't recommend.
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Orbitals can get pretty expensive. You do want a variable speed one though. Most people go with the Porter cable 7424XP as their first. I personally went straight to a rotary like most people don't recommend.
thats the one i was looking at. does it work well for the price? i don't want to skim on the price and regret it, but don't want to overspend either... lol
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Yea it works pretty good. It's a pure orbital, so no spinning, another popular one is by Flex, I forgot the model name but it orbits and spins, so it usually cuts a bit quicker while still staying safe as an orbital. More expensive though. The PC works great though.
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and another question.. with all this process, how do i go about going around decals and such? i have the "mustang" running stripe (factory) as well has a 3.7 performance decal on my hood. i don't want these areas to stand out as being undone, but don't want to ruin my decals...
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Yea it works pretty good. It's a pure orbital, so no spinning, another popular one is by Flex, I forgot the model name but it orbits and spins, so it usually cuts a bit quicker while still staying safe as an orbital. More expensive though. The PC works great though.
this would be the first time using one... what are the ins and outs of using it safely but as effectively as possible?

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With an orbital it's pretty easy to use. Just make sure to use quality pads, quality microfibers, and good chemicals.
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With an orbital it's pretty easy to use. Just make sure to use quality pads, quality microfibers, and good chemicals.
awesome. thanks for all of your help!
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Hit harbor freight they have a DA that's just as good as the flex or PC. BTW,it will run you $60 or cheaper.
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Hit harbor freight they have a DA that's just as good as the flex or PC. BTW,it will run you $60 or cheaper.

+1. I got my DA polisher and pads from Harbor Freight for around $70.
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this would be the first time using one... what are the ins and outs of using it safely but as effectively as possible?

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Safely & Effectively?? Understand what speeds are required for each stage while using the correct pads, pressure and technique is all key. Being your just starting out, stick with a DA polisher as it's designed to be more user friendly, tape off areas you don't want the polisher to touch and get chemicals on.
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Safely & Effectively?? Understand what speeds are required for each stage while using the correct pads, pressure and technique is all key. Being your just starting out, stick with a DA polisher as it's designed to be more user friendly, tape off areas you don't want the polisher to touch and get chemicals on.
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Oh yea, the best wax/ compound money can buy in my opinion is wizards. I have the shine master wax and it's out of this world

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