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Old 08-31-2014, 07:24 PM   #1
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buffing by hand?

Can you buff scratches out by hand or do I need to go buy the machine? also what's the best stuff to use?
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Depends on how deep the scratch is. Run your fingernail on it, can you feel a groove?


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Just be carefull if you buy the machine, too many people have damaged their clearcoat and left ghosts and swirls that were worse than the scratch. I do what I can by hand and it's usually enough. I have a buffer but prefer not using it.
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If you have a dual action polisher and leave ghosts in your paint then you probably should never touch your cars paint again. I have a rotary and picked it up really quick.


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If you have a dual action polisher and leave ghosts in your paint then you probably should never touch your cars paint again. I have a rotary and picked it up really quick.


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I have never seen anyone damage their paint with a DA polisher, and I have watched some people do it really, REALLY poorly.


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I am not afraid to use the machine lol would just rather not go buy one if I can just buff by hand. Probably takes a longer time but does it work just as well?
also whats the best stuff to buy to use? can I use microfiber towels or do I need the foam pad or whatever. yes im a noob
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I am not afraid to use the machine lol would just rather not go buy one if I can just buff by hand. Probably takes a longer time but does it work just as well?
also whats the best stuff to buy to use? can I use microfiber towels or do I need the foam pad or whatever. yes im a noob

It takes what I could only describe as an obscenely long time by hand, and it will never be as good as the machine. You can buy a porter cable 7424xp for like $150 or less. It's worth it when you consider you will take an entire day or more to do one panel by hand while a machine can feasibly do the whole car in one day.

You should not use just microfiber towels. It is best to pair a polish with an appropriate cutting pad. Most polish makes color-code their products. I like Adams polishes and they're very addordable. Zaino is also very popular.


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yeah no $150 could be spent a lot better lol was just looking for a way 2 buff out some scratches, not looking to win a show haha. I cant see it taking a whole day to do a panel.
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buffing by hand?

Well, it does...

If you have scratches in mind and not swirls, look into focus pads that can attach to your cordless drill. You have to be pretty careful with these because they're obviously not DA but they work well for localized scratches. If you are trying to get swirls out of the paint then that would not be the way to do it.

Also if you can catch your nail in the scratch, you can completely forget about it coming out.

I could see you not wanting to spend $150 for a few scratches but to anyone looking to do their whole car, a DA polisher is invaluable. And bear in mind it's not a one-time-use item. You'll always have it for future scratches or swirls.

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Meguiars makes a kit that turns a drill into a DA polisher. Much safer on paint then a rotary tool. I believe its less then $50 and comes with several pads.

Also, how did this end up in the Audio and Video forum?
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Meguiars makes a kit that turns a drill into a DA polisher. Much safer on paint then a rotary tool. I believe its less then $50 and comes with several pads.

Also, how did this end up in the Audio and Video forum?

What you described is not only a rotary tool, but an extremely high RPM one at that.


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I bought my da polisher for like $50 and it works like a champ


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what about these products? Anyone have any experience with them?
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Never heard of swirl x. Scratch x sucks. It doesn't fix any problems. It's not a buffing compound, it's a temporary scratch filler. I mean, I actually keep a bottle around but it has only been used to remove paint transfer easily. It will make your scratches look better... Until it washes out of the scratch. It's a bandaid, not a solution.


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all my panels other then some rock chips on the hood, some paint chips on the rear fenders and the scratches left behind when I removed my spoiler are the only body damage to this car. I was hoping if I could buff all the panels that only the problem areas would need to be re sprayed rather then paying for the whole car to be painted. When I took the car around for quotes they say I need the whole car painted since there are swirls and scratches but I know 90% of it will buff out
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If you are legitimately interested, look up Junkman's videos on YouTube (they could be under Junkman2008, I can't remember). In one of them he does a side by side comparison of the hood in his old El Camino. I can't remember seeing a car with paint that bad (that still had paint on it) in my life. And he made it shine like it was brand new. He is a professional, but still, it can be done. You don't need a new paint job because it's swirled...


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yeah that's what I mean, I don't need them to paint every panel just the 2 fenders and top of the trunk and the stone chips on the hood.. then again, should they be able to just blend or do panels need a full paint job? the missing paint is just chipped along the edge of the wheel arch and the stone chips are limited to just the very front part of the hood.
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You can look up drcolorchip and langka. They make good do it yourself kits for small scratches and chips.


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I can't even wrap my head around attempting to do all that by hand... I have a DA and my last full car polish still took me a good 10 hours total.

I HIGHLY recommend you just go with a machine, it's better in every respect.
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I can't even wrap my head around attempting to do all that by hand... I have a DA and my last full car polish still took me a good 10 hours total.



I HIGHLY recommend you just go with a machine, it's better in every respect.

Yep, it takes me an entire weekend if I work all day both Saturday and Sunday and only stop for lunch


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I've read of people having success with the DA from Harbor Freight.

Normally sells for under 50, and this past Labor Day weekend with sales could have got it for under $40.00. They sell pads too.

Start off with least aggressive polish or compound 1st. Then move up if you have to. Meguiar's #9 swirl remover, if that doesn't work 205, finally 105 compound.

On small scratches before I had my DA I had success with Maguiar's scratch-x by hand.

Like mentioned earlier, if you can catch a finger nail on it the best you'll be able to do is minimize it. You'll never remove it.

I've not tried it but there are new kits out there with a pen that fills in the scratch with clear coat.


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Yep, it takes me an entire weekend if I work all day both Saturday and Sunday and only stop for lunch


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I have a rotary and do my entire car in a few hours.


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I have a rotary and do my entire car in a few hours.


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Key word is rotary, lol. My little DA porter cable is only so strong.


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