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Old 09-01-2014, 11:37 AM   #1
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Clay bar questions

Hey guys finally finished up my car today!! Now I'm looking into giving it a good wash. With the clay bar how often do you clay bar your car and do you wax right after it?
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Clay bar as needed. Put a ziplock bag on your hand and run your finger over the car. If you feel bumps, you need to clay (assuming the car is clean). Always wax immediately after you clay--the clay at strips contaminants (and wax) off the paint.


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Not all that often, I generally only clay my car once or twice a year, though there are lots of variables that can affect this (climate/environment, garaged or not, etc).

Whenever you buy a clay bar, cut it into 3 or 4 pieces and store them in a ziplock bag. That way if you drop a piece while working on the car, you can throw it out and you won't loose the whole bar. Never use clay that has been dropped, or even touched a surface that wasn't clean.

Do small sections at a time and use lots of detailing spray (clay lubricant). Wax after claying the car.
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I clay bar before I polish, that way when I'm rubbing the polish into the paint I don't scratch it with any particles that may be on there.


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I clay bar before I polish, that way when I'm rubbing the polish into the paint I don't scratch it with any particles that may be on there.


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Absolutely this. Clay barring before polishing is an absolute must.


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I clay 3-4 times a year. Before you clay wash with warm water and dish soap. This will remove all the wax. So wash, dry, clay and then wash again with a premium car soap. Properly dry then polish and or wax.
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1. Rinse
2. Soap it up
3. Clay (while still soapy)
4. Rinse
5. Dry

Thats how I do it. Clay it while still soapy, cuts down on so much time instead of drying it and using the detail spray method.
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1. Rinse
2. Soap it up
3. Clay (while still soapy)
4. Rinse
5. Dry

Thats how I do it. Clay it while still soapy, cuts down on so much time instead of drying it and using the detail spray method.
That might work good in some areas, but this time of year in Texas, I can't even finish soaping up a car before the other half of it starts to dry lol.
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Yes, as others have said clay then wax. Make sure any previous wax is gone before you clay. You want to get all of the crud off that's embedded in the paint.



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I have used clay I dropped in the driveway and had no problems with scratches. I brushed it off, reshaped it, and kept going. I need some new clay anyway so next time I'll buy some new.

I would have to clay my car once a month to keep the contaminants off. I work at a shipyard and park in a rock parking lot so between seagull crap, paint over spray, and dust, my car takes a lot of abuse. I also hit numerous bugs on my 16 mile drive to a from work. Still looks great after a year but it is a pain to keep up with. I need to fix some chips in the paint though.

I cannot see any contaminants in the paint but when I use the hand-in-bag method, I can feel them. SGM hides so much!
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ALWAYS throw away clay you drop. It may look ok, and then you get a nice big gouge in your paint from a tiny pebble that got in there.

Clay isn't expensive, paint is. So don't risk it just to keep a piece of it.

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Joey, to be honest, I never read anything on clay barring so I didn't even think about it doing that but lucky for me, I did not have any issues with it. My driveway stays pretty clean, too, but I know what you are saying. Once a little pebble gets embedded in the clay, it's just a matter of time before it makes it back out to the surface even if the clay is reshaped.
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I clay bar 1x year. My hint is to tear the bar in 1/2 (or 1/3) so if you do drop it you only throw out a bit. I would NOT use dropped clay but that is only from what I've read not experience.

I like the soapy clay suggestion. Same mix as wash?

just noticed Bad suggested the dividing method 1st
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Clear coat?

How long after purchasing a brand new car should you wait to clay bar it? I have had mine for about 5 months so I don't want to do it prematurely and compromise the clear coat or paint finish at all...but I'm protective of my girl..

I live in Oklahoma where the weather is as unpredictable as much as it can vary. I have a gravel driveway and a lot of backroads I have to take have gravel, dirt or other contaminants on them so I worry. I wash and dry my car frequently but its getting cooler now and I want to do little winterizing session on the paint and I was thinking of doing the clay bar method or maybe like the meguiers compound treatment(supposedly similar to bar method) then polish then wax. obviously with a wash before and after the first stage.

Can anyone give me some insight please?
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You should clay bar as soon s you get the car. Some dealerships clay bar the top of the car when they receive it but not always. Just follow the instructions and you will be fine. Clay bar will not hurt your clear coat unless you get heavy dirt sand or stones in it from being dropped. If you drop the clay bar throw it out. Also make sure to knead the clay bar frequently and use lots of lubrication. I used to clay bar my black charger every 3 to 6 months depending on its condition. Also use a quality clay bar. Clay magic is a good brand. Also I used a diluted added spray wax for the lubricant but soapy car wash water is acceptable well.


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Did mine (black) the day I brought it home. Had something on it that wouldn't wash off. Could feel it by running hand over it after waxing. Clay bar made it silky smooth.
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Clayed mine for the first time last week (have had pro detailing before) and wow, it was an amazing feeling to truly get rid of any type of friction on her. Although I don't plan to, I could see how someone could be addicted and do it every weekend lol.
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since this was resurected......and it may be stupid to suggest/think.

can you clay bar the windows?
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Absolutely! Your windshield would love a good clay and wax. No need for windshield wipers after that!


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2nd that. Watch some videos too (from reputable detailers). There's a lot more to consider and techniques to implement when claying than what has been mentioned here.
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since this was resurected......and it may be stupid to suggest/think.

can you clay bar the windows?
I was going to ask this. Thanks for asking! Haha





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2nd that. Watch some videos too (from reputable detailers). There's a lot more to consider and techniques to implement when claying than what has been mentioned here.
Thanks for the info!

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I got some special clay for glass. Now I doubt you need it, but the glass clay is a bit denser and doesn't leave residue. Normal clay definitely works better on paint though.

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Thx for the answers!

side note: Although I do clay mine (all vehicles) 1x per year I don't see any differance. It's one of those I can only tell by touch and like the majority of you I don't want strangers touching my baby. If I didn't enjoy washing cars (nice weather, outside, your choice of music AND beverage) I ain't sure I would bother.

Vic, I find myself alot more tolerant of ?'s if the person knows it may be a stupid one. So I was willing to take one for the team. Premptive reply: Yes, there ARE stupid ?'s but it's easier to ask than have to say "Sorry, I thought......"
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Thx for the answers!

side note: Although I do clay mine (all vehicles) 1x per year I don't see any differance. It's one of those I can only tell by touch and like the majority of you I don't want strangers touching my baby. If I didn't enjoy washing cars (nice weather, outside, your choice of music AND beverage) I ain't sure I would bother.

Vic, I find myself alot more tolerant of ?'s if the person knows it may be a stupid one. So I was willing to take one for the team. Premptive reply: Yes, there ARE stupid ?'s but it's easier to ask than have to say "Sorry, I thought......"

I only clay when I want to do paint correction. Otherwise I just keep it waxed and there's very little reason to clay.


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I only clay bar, before I buff scratches out, if my car is clean but doesn't feel clean. (Run fingers gently over clean paint, if it feels rough it needs to be clay bar'd.) If you are not buffing I usually just paste wax. It basically does about 90% of what a clay bar job would do.


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