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Old 04-10-2012, 05:52 PM   #1
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Cammed, geared, bolt on, radials 1/4 time

I'm just seeing what people think I'll run. I'll be going down the track Saturday and thought if like to see what people think I'll hit. I'll be dropping the pass and back seats and that's it for reductions. 3.90 gears, 315 nitto drags, stage 2 comp cams, full bolt ons minus under drives, full suspension, spec stage 3+ clutch. I know on the street I will beat a 6.0 GTO that hit 13.3 last year by 2 or so cars on bald tires and he had mods since the stripe run and I was full weight plus a massive sub. I'm hoping to break into the 12s. Lol kinda shut up the ls1 fan boys I hang around
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Old 04-10-2012, 05:59 PM   #2
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I'd say high 12s-low 13s, but street and strip racing are a big difference
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I'd say high 12's also do you have any head work done ?
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Re: Cammed, geared, bolt on, radials 1/4 time

Oh I know. Big difference but I'm hoping high 12s. I'd be perfectly happy with that

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Nope. No head work. I'm done with this engine. I've got a 4.6 block on a stand thats bored to 3.70 for a 5.0 that I'll drop when it's done.
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Oh I know. Big difference but I'm hoping high 12s. I'd be perfectly happy with that

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Nope. No head work. I'm done with this engine. I've got a 4.6 block on a stand thats bored to 3.70 for a 5.0 that I'll drop when it's done.
You an on staying n/a or do you have plans for forced induction?
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Re: Cammed, geared, bolt on, radials 1/4 time

Lol also my tires are brand new

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All forged with trick flow heads and a kenne bell 2.6 on it. Long expensive project but that's whys it's on the stand Lol
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Lol also my tires are brand new

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All forged with trick flow heads and a kenne bell 2.6 on it. Long expensive project but that's whys it's on the stand Lol
Are you using a iron block?
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Well I don't have the block yet. Still shopping around for one. Are you even able to do that with the iron blocks? Cause they are all aluminum on mmr and everywhere else.
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Well I don't have the block yet. Still shopping around for one. Are you even able to do that with the iron blocks? Cause they are all aluminum on mmr and everywhere else.
If u can't find a iron block check out dss racing they have them and I'm sure mmr does also they are a bit cheaper than the aluminum and a bit stronger if you have a stroker set up with forced induction but they also weigh more than aluminum
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Yea that's what my thought was. I'm not sure how high you can bore a iron block but I'd prefer it over the allum because it's strength. It's gonna run like 25psi lol
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Most people I talk to say if you're gonna bore it with forced induction .020 over bore is what will keep u safe, the cylinder walls on the 4.6 are pretty thin so you don't want to get to crazy , but IMO with that much boost that you wanna run I would keep it at stock bore and just get forged internals
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Yea I'm still kinda at the toss up point where I'm figuring out what to do. I wanna keep the 2v too just to prove the fact that 2v can be a beast as much as the 4v
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:23 PM   #13
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The 2v is already a proven winner , I have a 2v with a kenne bell and I will take down stock 4v cobras all day , now a tuned cobra with a few mods that's a different story. Lol!
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Lol I have a buddy that had a terminator and I beat him before I cammed it and another one that JUST bought one and I beat him also. It's all down to traction but that's part of the race so what the hell lol

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What kind of numbers does that kb put down? I have a buddy that was looking at just slapping one on his near stock gt. I've heard they don't whine much unless you get the 2.6 but I myself have never seen a kenne bell gt.
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What kind of hp #'s are you putting down with you're set up?
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Mine is on a stock 2v and she puts down 360 rwhp and 341lbs of torque on 10 lbs of boost and I have a consertive tune because I have a stock bottom end!
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I had it at the dyno but I had a lightning maf that doesn't have a iat sensor on it and he couldn't tune it so he refused to run it on his dyno. He rode in it and told me with how it feels he says it probably puts down 310-325 rwhp. I was kinda pissed he refused to run it on the dyno.

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Lol on top of that it's 260 miles to my closest dyno or tuner lol so that's beating that gto and terminator completely untuned aside from my sct which doesn't do much
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That's not bad at all! And like you said earlier traction makes all the difference in the world!
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Grade A driver mod lol
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I'm just seeing what people think I'll run. I'll be going down the track Saturday and thought if like to see what people think I'll hit. I'll be dropping the pass and back seats and that's it for reductions. 3.90 gears, 315 nitto drags, stage 2 comp cams, full bolt ons minus under drives, full suspension, spec stage 3+ clutch. I know on the street I will beat a 6.0 GTO that hit 13.3 last year by 2 or so cars on bald tires and he had mods since the stripe run and I was full weight plus a massive sub. I'm hoping to break into the 12s. Lol kinda shut up the ls1 fan boys I hang around
Went to the track Wednesday in Indy and was surprised to see nearly all the GTO's and Camaros get mid 12's. I didn't realize the LS1's did that good. They have 350HP stock, right?
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315 stock but ls1 seem to take every bolt on and make massive power from them
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315 stock but ls1 seem to take every bolt on and make massive power from them
Yeah, I'm not in the market for a $4000 supercharger upgrade. I wish the 4.6 was more like that. Of course, that is a 350 compared to a 281.
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I know what you mean. But even hot rod magazine said that if you want it easy you by a gm. I don't get upset when my car looses cause its no big deal. We have alot less power. Isn't that a Mach 1 in your pic?
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I know what you mean. But even hot rod magazine said that if you want it easy you by a gm. I don't get upset when my car looses cause its no big deal. We have alot less power. Isn't that a Mach 1 in your pic?
Yup, got 36k miles. I got it in February. I got 14.7 first time ever at the track. I was all giddy about it a missed 2nd. 2nd run was 14.12 and 3rd run was 13.99. At least I'm going in the right direction!
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Yep good direction to take lol the Mach 1 are pretty beast. They can be really fast
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Yep good direction to take lol the Mach 1 are pretty beast. They can be really fast
BTW, that wheel & tire combo looks great on your stang.
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I'll put a pic of my new hood and stuff. I have a cobra r hood now and it looks amazing
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Re: Cammed, geared, bolt on, radials 1/4 time

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Mine is on a stock 2v and she puts down 360 rwhp and 341lbs of torque on 10 lbs of boost and I have a consertive tune because I have a stock bottom end!
What happened on your graph? Why did your power/torque hicup like that? Usually twin screw chargers have very flat torque curves
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What happened on your graph? Why did your power/torque hicup like that? Usually twin screw chargers have very flat torque curves
My tuner said its because I'm running the stock throttle body he said it is restricting air flow I have a new accufab 75 mm just didn't put it on yet , I'm thinking that and tweaking the tune will straighten it out. What do you think? Any suggestions would be helpful .
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Re: Cammed, geared, bolt on, radials 1/4 time

I only have a 70mm at the moment but i guess that could cause it. It almost looks like your running out of fuel. Do you have a fuel pressure gauge and a wideband gauge?
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I have a fuel pressure gauge running 40 psi

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I have a fuel pressure gauge running 40 psi
It's funny you say that because the thought crossed my mind
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At the rpm range where your graph hiccups do you notice the fuel pressure moving? Something isn't quite right because it climbs steady for a few hundred rpms after it clears up
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At the rpm range where your graph hiccups do you notice the fuel pressure moving? Something isn't quite right because it climbs steady for a few hundred rpms after it clears up
Actually yes I do see the needle dip a bit at that rpm range drops to 37-38 psi
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Yeah that isnt right. Fuel is your issue. I run 39 PSI at idle and when i go to WOT I see right at 50 and it stays there untill i let out of it. What fuel pump do you have? Fuel pressure should never drop below ~39PSI
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