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Old 07-02-2012, 04:02 PM   #36
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In a straight line the new Shelby is a beast!.. On a road course the win goes to the ZL1!.. Both are awesome cars but I'll take the new Shelby over the ZL1!.. It's looks and sounds are much more appealing to me!.. Plus I love to Drag Race more than Autocross!.. Lol
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In a straight line the new Shelby is a beast!.. On a road course the win goes to the ZL1!.. Both are awesome cars but I'll take the new Shelby over the ZL1!.. It's looks and sounds are much more appealing to me!.. Plus I love to Drag Race more than Autocross!.. Lol
Zl1 got walked on a road course by a gt500 this past weekend. Heat soaked
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Zl1 got walked on a road course by a gt500 this past weekend. Heat soaked
Ya but that can happen to any car that's not cooling off right!.. The other day my car it was really hot out and I was running my AC running full blast all day!.. At one point after sitting and idling with the AC going for about 15+ minutes, my car felt like it had no power at all!.. Temp gauge was almost all the way up before I got moving again!..
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A zo6 is 505hp and 470tq.. What do u want me to tell u? My Shelby isn't stock and I think u need to re check ur specs because my 09 is a lot faster than a new gt. learn the diff between crank hp and rwhp. On a road course the zo6 will beat me.. Not in a strait line.. Hasn't yet
Re check my specs? Why I know z06 vette's run 10s at the track. What does your Shelby run? And your 09 shelby stock would only beat a new gt from a roll, the gt's have ran better that your gt 500 at the track. the z06 still beats a 13 gt500 so your 09 is getting dominated. I need to learn the diff between crank hp and rwhp? Lol I think you need to learn that a z06 runs 10s at the track with less hp then your Shelby.
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Re check my specs? Why I know z06 vette's run 10s at the track. What does your Shelby run? And your 09 shelby stock would only beat a new gt from a roll, the gt's have ran better that your gt 500 at the track. the z06 still beats a 13 gt500 so your 09 is getting dominated.
What part of my Shelby isn't stock do u still not understand? U need to quit suckin off the bow tie boys and get back on the right side
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What part of my Shelby isn't stock do u still not understand? U need to quit suckin off the bow tie boys and get back on the right side
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What part of my Shelby isn't stock do u still not understand? U need to quit suckin off the bow tie boys and get back on the right side
So your 09 gt500 runs better than a 10 in the 1/4? I'm a realist and love cars in general and am no mustang fanboy. You still haven't told us what your Shelby runs and how much power it makes?
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Ya but that can happen to any car that's not cooling off right!.. The other day my car it was really hot out and I was running my AC running full blast all day!.. At one point after sitting and idling with the AC going for about 15+ minutes, my car felt like it had no power at all!.. Temp gauge was almost all the way up before I got moving again!..
But the camaro never exhibited these problems with the magazine tests. I can post the video of it getting walked down and passed by the gt500. Camaro isn't stock either
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So your 09 gt500 runs better than a 10 in the 1/4? I'm a realist and love cars in general and am no mustang fanboy. You still haven't told us what your Shelby runs and how much power it makes?
686rwhp 691lbtq.. Never ran on the track just street.. U call urself a realist but ur far from reality.. Ur 5.0 outrun me from zero? Come back to earth! Ur just a poster boy for GM(government motors)
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686rwhp 691lbtq.. Never ran on the track just street.. U call urself a realist but ur far from reality.. Ur 5.0 outrun me from zero? Come back to earth! Ur just a poster boy for GM(government motors)
How would I know how much power your car makes? Lol
I said a new gt has ran faster than a stock 09 gt 500 at the track.
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686rwhp 691lbtq.. Never ran on the track just street.. U call urself a realist but ur far from reality.. Ur 5.0 outrun me from zero? Come back to earth! Ur just a poster boy for GM(government motors)
I've outrun two gt500's making similar numbers with my 490 hp convertible...
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I've outrun two gt500's making similar numbers with my 490 hp convertible...
That's because shelby's are terrible at putting the power to the ground.
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That's because shelby's are terrible at putting the power to the ground.
Do u bash everything u wish u had unless it has a bow tie?
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The gt500 slower than zl1 at track was busted this past weekend. 20 minutes session, typical for most sessions and gt500 caught it from far and passed. Zl1 had bad brake fade and heat soaked. Shelby experience none of this, similar lap times during while session. ZO6 in vid, different story lol.
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Do u bash everything u wish u had unless it has a bow tie?
Don't wish I had a Shelby sorry. If I wanted one I would have one. And I have had my share of Chevys, and am on my 5th mustang. All i am saying is the z06 Is faster than any stock mustang, and most modified ones.
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That's good.. U should take a pole on who would rather have a Shelby or ur gt
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The gt500 slower than zl1 at track was busted this past weekend. 20 minutes session, typical for most sessions and gt500 caught it from far and passed. Zl1 had bad brake fade and heat soaked. Shelby experience none of this, similar lap times during while session. ZO6 in vid, different story lol.
Ya the new gt500 beats the zl1 in everything. Chevy needs to learn to cool there new platforms and to cut weight. And ya the z06 different story lol

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That's good.. U should take a pole on who would rather have a Shelby or ur gt
Most would take a 10-13 gt500 over a new gt but would take a new gt over a 9 and under gt500

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That's good.. U should take a pole on who would rather have a Shelby or ur gt
No need to argue though you have a very nice car!
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:49 PM   #54
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But the camaro never exhibited these problems with the magazine tests. I can post the video of it getting walked down and passed by the gt500. Camaro isn't stock either
Hey if you got that vid then post it!.. It is also possible that the ZL1 driver didn't know how to drive!.. Just saying that all the articles that I've seen when comparing a new ZL1 to a new GT500 ona road course the ZL1 wins!.. With the exception to one road course here in Michigan!.. Test was done by Car and Driver and they said both cars posted the same lap times!..
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Hey if you got that vid then post it!.. It is also possible that the ZL1 driver didn't know how to drive!.. Just saying that all the articles that I've seen when comparing a new ZL1 to a new GT500 ona road course the ZL1 wins!.. With the exception to one road course here in Michigan!.. Test was done by Car and Driver and they said both cars posted the same lap times!..
Yes they posted similar lap times during their test...but their test wasn't done for a full spec session. Remember, Most magazines are biased wether it be for of ford or Chevy. After 10 minutes the zl1 faded fast. The GT500 driver in the vid def wasn't a prof by the looks of his lines and mannerisms. Albeit it could have been his first time behind the wheel of that car. All that said, zo6s dominate road courses. Takes p cars to take them down minus professionally setup made for that sport. For everyday driving, I'd take a Shelby over the z.
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Here ya go:


Zl1 mods will probably never be known fully...was not stock.
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Zl1 mods will probably never be known fully...was not stock.
That is the torq's shop zl1....shoot them am email they will tell you what the car had, and it is also going to be featured in chevy magazine(can't remember which one) I was talking to Paul at torq already about there zl1 an he told me that ford has perfected the cooling of there supercharged vehicles and Chevy is very new to this and the zl1 suffers from bad heat problems. That is why they have cooling packages already available for the zl1.
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I know it had dual fan heat exchanger, gears and tune at least... And he's no novice on road courses
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I would buy another 5.0 before a 09 Gt500..... they are nose heavy. Throw a blower on a 11+ 5.0 and they 09 Shelby is done.
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I would buy another 5.0 before a 09 Gt500..... they are nose heavy. Throw a blower on a 11+ 5.0 and they 09 Shelby is done.
I would rather get an 09 thought because of how easily you can make power with more psi and bolt ons
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I would rather get an 09 thought because of how easily you can make power with more psi and bolt ons
Was the 09 GT500's have a 5.4L or 5.8L?
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Was the 09 GT500's have a 5.4L or 5.8L?
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I would rather get an 09 thought because of how easily you can make power with more psi and bolt ons
+1 Also, seems like you could mod the suspension to even the stakes
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Lets give credit where it's due. Any Corvette is a nice ride. ZR1 is a badass car any day of the week. It's overpriced if you ask me. You shouldn't compare it to GT500, at the pricepoint it's at you should really compare it to a SuperSnake 1000

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Its obvious the brass at Ford has gone out of their way to ensure there is a mustang that out performs everything Chevy makes at every pricepoint, and for that I thank you.
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I would rather get an 09 thought because of how easily you can make power with more psi and bolt ons
True but again,nose heavy and not and easy task to get power to the ground.
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True but again,nose heavy and not and easy task to get power to the ground.
Yea I knw the key is getting it to the ground. The thing tht sucks is tht Shelby I believe from the factory gave em with 275 wide in the rear. With some 315's you can put it down good
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Yea I knw the key is getting it to the ground. The thing tht sucks is tht Shelby I believe from the factory gave em with 275 wide in the rear. With some 315's you can put it down good
Yup. They don't come prepped to put the power down. Fords fault, but with a couple grand you will have a way better car then the way you get it from them.
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Ok everyone let's settle down. As long as its muscle who cares. Jk **** Chevy lol when you buy a Chevy, you buy the best. Drive the first mile, walk the rest.
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Lets give credit where it's due. Any Corvette is a nice ride. ZR1 is a badass car any day of the week. It's overpriced if you ask me. You shouldn't compare it to GT500, at the pricepoint it's at you should really compare it to a SuperSnake 1000

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Its obvious the brass at Ford has gone out of their way to ensure there is a mustang that out performs everything Chevy makes at every pricepoint, and for that I thank you.
Who said zr1? And the gt500 is the price point of a z06 corvette which beats the gt500 everywhere stock vs stock
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Who said zr1? And the gt500 is the price point of a z06 corvette which beats the gt500 everywhere stock vs stock
Even the '13 GT500?
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