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Old 02-07-2013, 10:27 PM   #36
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no more bench racing lol lets just get down to it
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yeah pretty much just enjoy the track night...after you warm up on the b20 go find a stock fox to run...now there's a good drivers race
Have u ever seen a stock fox at a. Track night lol I have only seen 2 stock foxbodys ever lol
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bigger tb - no hp
bigger maf - no hp
heli tb spacer - junk
who p/p the heads/intakes?

You might make like 165rwhp if your lucky.
The local machine shop, Gunthers, did my p/p. They told me if anything they gave me 15 extra hp. The tb maf and my spacer are definitely not junk, yes the 8hp gain from spending 500 wasn't worth it but they do have their benefits. So let's add some things up, 150hp stock, 5hp from the lighter flywheel, 15 from my tune, 12 from the full exhaust, plus another 15 from the p/p.. that adds to 197. Now I know that's not to the ground, because its been on the dyno lol rated at 182rwhp and 239ft-lbs of torque. My two track runs were a 15 flat at 90mph and a 14.8 at 94 mph.
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Throw some 3.73 in there if u want highway mileage to be good if not some 4:10 will take off faster but have less top end I prefer 4:10 myself just my opinion though . That and a good flowing exhaust and some headers possibly with a name brand CAI should have np waxing a Honda ... I measure my cars horsepower in Hondas I've got about 25 Hondas in my car lol hope I helped
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The local machine shop, Gunthers, did my p/p. They told me if anything they gave me 15 extra hp. The tb maf and my spacer are definitely not junk, yes the 8hp gain from spending 500 wasn't worth it but they do have their benefits. So let's add some things up, 150hp stock, 5hp from the lighter flywheel, 15 from my tune, 12 from the full exhaust, plus another 15 from the p/p.. that adds to 197. Now I know that's not to the ground, because its been on the dyno lol rated at 182rwhp and 239ft-lbs of torque. My two track runs were a 15 flat at 90mph and a 14.8 at 94 mph.
Boy your full of Ricer math....

Lets see a stock 94-98?
That's about 130 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER
So lets say your port&polish work did give you 15REAR WHEEL

130 + 15 = 145 RWHP

MAF = no power, it adds nothing nada.
TB = again no power, unless your boosted and its becoming a restriction.
Spacer = Also no power.
FLYWHEEL = doesn't add power, however it will allow you to rev a bit quicker.

If I were to be generous and give you 15 hp for a tune, that would be 160REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER.

Now what gears are you running?

Throw us a time slip or a video of your car otherwise this thread is laughable at best.
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A bigger throttle body can add a few horsepower not trying to start anything just stating .
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I think my burnout speaks for itself. The only thing I've done in the 5 years is rebuild the engine, that's when I just got the p/p and rear put in.
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A bigger throttle body can add a few horsepower not trying to start anything just stating .
They are a complimentary mod with cams or heads, better yet cams AND heads. They will not provide a noticeable gain, but every little bit counts if money is not an issue.

Also, OP, what exactly do you mean "the burn out speaks for itself". If you're running street tires, a burn out is HURTING your time most likely.
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My friend with a stock single did a bigger burnout lulz
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They are a complimentary mod with cams or heads, better yet cams AND heads. They will not provide a noticeable gain, but every little bit counts if money is not an issue.

Also, OP, what exactly do you mean "the burn out speaks for itself". If you're running street tires, a burn out is HURTING your time most likely.
.001 hp is still hp gained lol
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.001 hp is still hp gained lol
True, if that is your goal. Just remember there is no consistent dyno. It can dyno 240 then 231 2 minutes later then 248 2 minutes after that. That is why a TB's gain can never be accurately measured. I can appreciate big money for little return because that is where I am now. I ordered a CF hood and trunk, TB etc. Things that make small, but hopefully cumulative differences.
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I think my burnout speaks for itself. The only thing I've done in the 5 years is rebuild the engine, that's when I just got the p/p and rear put in.
Actually time slips, the dyno sheet you promised would speak for itself...any car can do a burnout...heck i can get a 1.8l sonic to do one on crap tires
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Btw your friend is easily excited lol...
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Here is my sh***y burnout



No water was used, could you tell me what I should run based off this burnout



Spending money on a throttle body is just pointless, unless your at the END of the road and have nothing else to buy. Shiner's 601hp v6 made 601hp with his stock throttle body.
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Here is my sh***y burnout



No water was used, could you tell me what I should run based off this burnout

Spending money on a throttle body is just pointless, unless your at the END of the road and have nothing else to buy. Shiner's 601hp v6 made 601hp with his stock throttle body.
That was a horrible burnout haha you should do a part 2 and use water thus time, looks like you need it.
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That was a horrible burnout haha you should do a part 2 and use water thus time, looks like you need it.
All a burn out does is ruin your tire. Kids these days.
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All a burn out does is ruin your tire. Kids these days.
Pretty much, only useful at the track, or if you're getting new tires haha
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Pretty much, only useful at the track, or if you're getting new tires haha
Not even. I think it was you whom we had the debate? lol. I won't derail this thread further lol but yeah, not even at the track but this is like, Deja Vu?
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That was a horrible burnout haha you should do a part 2 and use water thus time, looks like you need it.
The burnout wasn't REALLY a burnout.... I was cleaning off my tires dur!
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The burnout wasn't REALLY a burnout.... I was cleaning off my tires dur!
You mentioned it being a burnout twice in your post...
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You mentioned it being a burnout twice in your post...
He was joking. If you didn't catch it. On street tires, he did the right thing.
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Yeah still stick to heating up nittos, no problems


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You mentioned it being a burnout twice in your post...
People with common sense would recognize that a turbo car wouldn't have troubles doing a burnout >_>
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People with common sense would recognize that a turbo car wouldn't have troubles doing a burnout >_>
Not many here have common sense, look at the thread
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Yeah still stick to heating up nittos, no problems
If you didn't you'd be nailing better 60's hehe. (here we go again) lol
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If you didn't you'd be nailing better 60's hehe. (here we go again) lol
I only had 240rwhp lol I didn't spin a bit when I did the 1.96
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I bet its just a turbo whistle on your tailpipe lmfao
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LOL yeah keep believing that
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I only had 240rwhp lol I didn't spin a bit when I did the 1.96
Again, on 555s, 240 WHP is plenty. 1.96 is average for a 555. Instead of resisting, go take it as an excuse to race more hehe.

No spin is also what happens when you bog. There is NO DOUBT you can nail a 1.8X 60.
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I bet its just a turbo whistle on your tailpipe lmfao
So how do you account for the compressor surge sound
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Again, on 555s, 240 WHP is plenty. 1.96 is average for a 555. Instead of resisting, go take it as an excuse to race more hehe.

No spin is also what happens when you bog. There is NO DOUBT you can nail a 1.8X 60.
Car is broke, bad cylinder head -_- lol when it comes back it'll have a lot bigger cam (ESG made it^) and big heads so low end probably isn't gonna be happy unfortunately :/ but I'll take that challenge! Haha need to run lower psi but keep forgetting to drop it, so far all runs at 32-35psi, I was thinking of 24psi what do you use in them?
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I bet its just a turbo whistle on your tailpipe lmfao
you'd be wrong in that lol, but let's not derail op's thread to much guys. i'm sure he is enjoying the burnout convo though since he'll be on the track soon enough
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Just supercharge it and smoke em jeez
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Car is broke, bad cylinder head -_- lol when it comes back it'll have a lot bigger cam (ESG made it^) and big heads so low end probably isn't gonna be happy unfortunately :/ but I'll take that challenge! Haha need to run lower psi but keep forgetting to drop it, so far all runs at 32-35psi, I was thinking of 24psi what do you use in them?
35 PSI.

Ahh. Broke


great time for modding. Anxious aren't ya'? I know I been itching for our track to re open.
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Ahh. Broke

great time for modding. Anxious aren't ya'? I know I been itching for our track to re open.
Yes tired of having to ride with someone else lol and figures it would break 2 weekends before our track opens -_-
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