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Old 02-16-2013, 03:36 AM   #1
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'13 Mustang 5.0 VS 6.0 GTO

A guy from a local car group has a 6.0 GTO that apparently has cams and some bolt ons. He won't pop his hood so for some stupid reason (I think he's hiding something honestly) but all I know for sure is that he has cams and bolt ons. My car is a '13 5.0 with a BAMA 91 Race Tune and a roush axle back, with a hurst short throw shifter.

2013 5.0 Mods -
Roush Axle back
BAMA 91 Race Tune
Hurst Short throw

6.0 GTO Mods -
Cams
Full bolt ons
Possibly a tune for the cams? I would think he'd need a tune for cams..?
And apparently that's all he has done..

So who should take the win?
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I would say the gto, those cars respond well to cams and bolt ons
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I would say the gto, those cars respond well to cams and bolt ons
I hate to hear that.
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Yeah, i'd have to go GTO aswell, those things are nasty. You still have the cooler car, so don't feel too bad.
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The GTO Is plug ugly and your car is way sexier and cooler. Lol! Race him and find out.
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Is the gto factory 400? Sounds like its gonna be close. If he's all cammed and full bolt ons, he might have u.
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Just race him. Then you can tell. Everyone can talk **** but he should at least have the balls to pop his hood. And if he doesn't have the balls to pop his hood then he's not worth the time
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Ok fuçk what's under the hood, that's not whats important, what kinda of tires is the goat on? That's a the biggest factory, is it stick or auto? 5 of my friends have goats soo I kinda of know what they can do and what there limitations are
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Throw some nitrous on it for the race and then take off, in case you have warranty.
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The GTO has Drag Radials, that's what I forgot to say
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The GTO has Drag Radials, that's what I forgot to say
GTO would get u because of the cam and especially if there running Drag Radials
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Also, i have a quick question. BAMA gave me 3 tunes. I normally run the 2nd tune (the middle one) but ive been wanting to run the race tune in it daily, but ive heard that running a race tune can hurt your engine if its used as a DD car. Any input?
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I asked the same thing to the Shelby guys. One of them said he's had his "race" tune in his car since August with no issues at all. They said it really shouldn't be viewed as street, performance, and race but more as 91,92, and 93 octane. If anyone else's has more input, I'd like to know more too.
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Also, i have a quick question. BAMA gave me 3 tunes. I normally run the 2nd tune (the middle one) but ive been wanting to run the race tune in it daily, but ive heard that running a race tune can hurt your engine if its used as a DD car. Any input?
I have never heard that. I have heard AM make a statement about how some drivers may feel the race tune is too aggressive for them as a DD but not hurt the engine or other parts of the car.
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I wish AM would chime in and inform us. I'd really like to know. Of course when I got my tuner, that was the first tune I put in. It was WICKED! I took it out after playing around. I'd love to leave it in there. There is a huge difference in my car between the tunes.
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I wish AM would chime in and inform us. I'd really like to know. Of course when I got my tuner, that was the first tune I put in. It was WICKED! I took it out after playing around. I'd love to leave it in there. There is a huge difference in my car between the tunes.
AM will chime in and tell you the same. Their street, performance, race or hybrid tune will not hurt the engine or car and safe to use for track or non track applications. If a tune is done correctly from whom ever does it, the car will last just as long as a non tuned car. The car should see 200k miles if taken care of with routine maintenance and of course not beating the dog snot out of it.
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I have never heard that. I have heard AM make a statement about how some drivers may feel the race tune is too aggressive for them as a DD but not hurt the engine or other parts of the car.
+1 Thottle response is really touchy is what I got from that from AM. But perfectly fine for DD.
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+1 Thottle response is really touchy is what I got from that from AM. But perfectly fine for DD.
The throttle response can be very touchy if you ask for your tune to have a zero lag throttle response. Its my understanding from AM they can adjust how sensitive the throttle response is depending on how responsive someone wants it.
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Then it's final lol. Back goes the "race" tune. I got rubber (not on purpose) in 3rd gear moving pretty quick. There is a huge difference in the tunes.
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Yeah the race tune was insane on my car too, I put it on for the second time last night and drove it around for a little bit, i still haven't taken it off yet. Thats why im asking, because if its not gonna hurt the car, id love to leave it on the race tune. Its a night and day difference.

Also, anyone cam the 5.0 coyote on here? If so, how much? and was it a pretty simple job? Does BAMA have a tune for cams or would i have to go to a shop for that?
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Yeah the race tune was insane on my car too, I put it on for the second time last night and drove it around for a little bit, i still haven't taken it off yet. Thats why im asking, because if its not gonna hurt the car, id love to leave it on the race tune. Its a night and day difference.

Also, anyone cam the 5.0 coyote on here? If so, how much? and was it a pretty simple job? Does BAMA have a tune for cams or would i have to go to a shop for that?
Bro, you can leave your race tune on and enjoy. Once Dan or Shane from AM reads this they always chime in and give awesome advice. You will be fine bro. I'm running a 91 hybrid tune for my DD and love it. I have been running my tunes for over a year now and the car rides perfect. I don't beat the balls off of it either but your good to go on your tune.

Sorry to get off topic of the thread. Now kick that goats a$$ and show him whose boss baby. The 5.0 is the King!
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I'm with you. Sorry about the off topic. Kick the tires, and light the fires.
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Ok those tires will help alot he could probably run low 12s on them but is it stick or auto
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Ok so he's going to have a hard time launching on drag radials with it being stick And IRS, slicks are needed for a good launch in those cars, but he will still get a decent 60' but he will be running mid to low 12s, I've seen the new 5.0s do that with a good tune and CAI, but you have to launch really good if your on street radials, but it would def be a drivers race, those goats are heavy and a pita to launch unless your a good a$$ driver

Here's me and my buddy's old gto he was hitting 11.1s that day on motor, but he is running huge custom cam, high stall converter and full bolt ons with 600-700 pounds of weight reduction and full suspension and slicks and skinny tires, but he was very inconsistent he ran some low 12s from a bad launch in an auto lol
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Damn those GTO's are ugly lol

Yeah if u race him, I'll be racing with my BAMA race tune and hopefully go from a 20+ roll so I can get some traction

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And of course, the race will take place on my private air strip in the back yard lol
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I like the gto
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I like the gto
I like that chevy pickup!..what year 79 or so?..

To the op if the gto can drive the manual with the drag radials I might take him for the win.
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Damn those GTO's are ugly lol

Yeah if u race him, I'll be racing with my BAMA race tune and hopefully go from a 20+ roll so I can get some traction

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And of course, the race will take place on my private air strip in the back yard lol
Now your just giving the GTO a compliment when you say there ugly. Ugly doesn't even describe that bubble looking embarrassment of a vehicle, no matter how fast it is. Hideous is Hideous no matter how fast it is. Lol
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Damn those GTO's are ugly lol

Yeah if u race him, I'll be racing with my BAMA race tune and hopefully go from a 20+ roll so I can get some traction

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And of course, the race will take place on my private air strip in the back yard lol
If you go from a roll he will destroy you! He has way more horsepower and the weight of his car and his IRS are not much of a factor once you do a roll, your best chance is from a dig, but you need to be a good driver and nail your launch
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Yeah I'm pretty confident in my driving ability, I've been doing it for quite some time now. But I'll try a dig and a roll race and see what happens I guess
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By the way I am the one that told the shelby owner that it is 91, 92, 93 that is not the case for the 5.0 it is only the case for the Shelby's because they require the higher octane...with that said that bama race tune is definantly safe to drive daily I had my 2011 5.0 dynoed with the bama 91 performance tune and then with the 93 race tune both of the air fuel ratios were safe for daily driving and there was about a 15 hp difference...I also never ran anything but 93 octane in my 5.0 or my shelby for that matter...good luck and get some drag radials and you will be low 12s as well...I ran a 7.65 @ 93 in the 1/8 with my 5.0 that puts it right at about 11.9-12.0 in the quarter all I had was drag radials, tune, cai, axle back, and 3.73s...get some tires and show that gto your tails
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I've been running the 93 race tune for over a year and never had a problem and I don't know how good the traction is on the autos but mine just fries the p-zeros from a dig or a roll either way have fun
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By the way I am the one that told the shelby owner that it is 91, 92, 93 that is not the case for the 5.0 it is only the case for the Shelby's because they require the higher octane...with that said that bama race tune is definantly safe to drive daily I had my 2011 5.0 dynoed with the bama 91 performance tune and then with the 93 race tune both of the air fuel ratios were safe for daily driving and there was about a 15 hp difference...I also never ran anything but 93 octane in my 5.0 or my shelby for that matter...good luck and get some drag radials and you will be low 12s as well...I ran a 7.65 @ 93 in the 1/8 with my 5.0 that puts it right at about 11.9-12.0 in the quarter all I had was drag radials, tune, cai, axle back, and 3.73s...get some tires and show that gto your tails
Will do. Btw, everywhere down here only sells 91 octane, where is everyone getting 93 octane gas? I got the race tune set for 91 octane when I ordered from BAMA because I couldn't think of a place to buy 93 octane if I got a tuner for 93
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Your state might not have 93, but shell and bp carry it and if they don't have it you can't get it
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