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Old 10-13-2013, 07:04 PM   #1
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What would get in the low 11 or high 10 sec cheaper a boss 302 or a 10 gt500?? No nos just bolt ons and dr...
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What would get in the low 11 or high 10 sec cheaper a boss 302 or a 10 gt500?? No nos just bolt ons and dr...
Boss. Your 5.0 can hit that with just boltons. Jpc already hit 9's completely natrualy aspirated
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Boss. Your 5.0 can hit that with just boltons. Jpc already hit 9's completely natrualy aspirated
I am selling the 5.0 to a very good offer I got and I want to built a 10 sec 1/4 only car. Why wouldn't the gt500 be better ??
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I am selling the 5.0 to a very good offer I got and I want to built a 10 sec 1/4 only car. Why wouldn't the gt500 be better ??
Bc the 13 prior gt500's are dyno queens. They put down great power but are slow
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Bc the 13 prior gt500's are dyno queens. They put down great power but are slow
I have hear that before, what would a gt500 with pulley, off road x pipe and intake put me in the 1/4 mile?
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They need a blower swap

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I have hear that before, what would a gt500 with pulley, off road x pipe and intake put me in the 1/4 mile?
Low 11's. Put it this way. The fastest prior 13 stock blower gt 500 is 10.34, I believe. That was full boltons/exhaust/ ported blower/ suspension/ and so on
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10.39 I mean
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They need a blower swap ---------- Post added at 07:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:16 PM ---------- Low 11's. Put it this way. The fastest prior 13 stock blower gt 500 is 10.34, I believe. That was full boltons/exhaust/ ported blower/ suspension/ and so on
But wouldn't the boss require more $$ to get to low 11 or low 10. Tune, pulley, intake and exhaust for gt500 are not that expensive
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But wouldn't the boss require more $$ to get to low 11 or low 10. Tune, pulley, intake and exhaust for gt500 are not that expensive
Yes.
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Yes.
Is there a difference between the 10 gt500 to an 11-12 ?
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Is there a difference between the 10 gt500 to an 11-12 ?
10 is cast iron block
11-12 is all aluminum
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10 is cast iron block 11-12 is all aluminum
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If you want a 1/4 mile only car that will get in the 9's with ZERO bolt-ons, from the factory, just get a Super Cobra Jet.

GT 500 and Boss 302... PFFFFFTT.
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If you want a 1/4 mile only car that will get in the 9's with ZERO bolt-ons, from the factory, just get a Super Cobra Jet. GT 500 and Boss 302... PFFFFFTT.
Buy one for me, pleeeeaseeeeeeee! Lol

How is the install for headers on the gt500? Is the same as the 5.0 with un mounting the engine and all that???
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They need a blower swap ---------- Post added at 07:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:16 PM ---------- Low 11's. Put it this way. The fastest prior 13 stock blower gt 500 is 10.34, I believe. That was full boltons/exhaust/ ported blower/ suspension/ and so on
I know this is a Stang forum but would an Ls3 vette make a better platform than both the boss and gt500 to get me into the 10 sec cheaply ???
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I know this is a Stang forum but would an Ls3 vette make a better platform than both the boss and gt500 to get me into the 10 sec cheaply ???
Yes it would.

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A base c6 can be made really nasty. With full exhaust. Fast intake/ throttle body/ coldair/ cam/tune
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Yes it would. ---------- Post added at 11:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:09 PM ---------- A base c6 can be made really nasty. With full exhaust. Fast intake/ throttle body/ coldair/ cam/tune
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I recently sold my 11 gt500 after having it for a month and I can tell you its not very fast on the street and it feels really heavy. The biggest problem I had was that its not high revving like the 5.0. In my opinion, it wasnt worth the extra cost. But you can get an extra 100hp out of them pretty cheap.
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Even the late-model GT500s at the track aren't impressing me that much....i.e. struggling to get out of the high teens mph wise for some. Something with 662 hp should be blowing 125 pretty easily.

Why you'd cut up a a Boss 302 to make a drag car is beyond me. The 5.0 you have right now is the best basis for what you want.

As you can see from my sig, 11s are possible with very little work.
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Even the late-model GT500s at the track aren't impressing me that much....i.e. struggling to get out of the high teens mph wise for some. Something with 662 hp should be blowing 125 pretty easily.

Why you'd cut up a a Boss 302 to make a drag car is beyond me. The 5.0 you have right now is the best basis for what you want.

As you can see from my sig, 11s are possible with very little work.
I agree. It doednt get better than your 5.0
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Mustang forum aside, I have two buddies with vettes that are daily driven full weight with heads/cams/intake running low 10s every weekend. One of their friends has a 08 z06 that he procharged that runs 9.50s@140+mph on the stock wheels and drag radials.

I've seen a number of 5.0s run well into the 11s with the stock intake manifold and no nitrous. Gt500s are awesome and everything, but my 08 was JPC turbo'ed and my best run ever was a 11.09@124mph. My 5.0 went 12.80 untuned with drag radials I borrowed from a friend(otherwise completely stock). Even just comparing the price difference from the 08 to my 5.0 I spent 34k on the gt500 and nearly 6k on the turbo. I spent 28k on the 5.0 and if I spent 12 grand on performance I would rape the gt500 and my lightning something fierce. Sad thing is though, after all that I'd still have trouble with those NA vettes.
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Mustang forum aside, I have two buddies with vettes that are daily driven full weight with heads/cams/intake running low 10s every weekend. One of their friends has a 08 z06 that he procharged that runs 9.50s@140+mph on the stock wheels and drag radials. I've seen a number of 5.0s run well into the 11s with the stock intake manifold and no nitrous. Gt500s are awesome and everything, but my 08 was JPC turbo'ed and my best run ever was a 11.09@124mph. My 5.0 went 12.80 untuned with drag radials I borrowed from a friend(otherwise completely stock). Even just comparing the price difference from the 08 to my 5.0 I spent 34k on the gt500 and nearly 6k on the turbo. I spent 28k on the 5.0 and if I spent 12 grand on performance I would rape the gt500 and my lightning something fierce. Sad thing is though, after all that I'd still have trouble with those NA vettes.
No denying the LS motors are an amazing engine to build on.
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No denying the LS motors are an amazing engine to build on.
What's even worse is that they haven't even touched the bottom ends. I have 6k into just the engine in my lightning and lots of weight dropped and barely run 10.90. These guys spend a couple thousand dollars and it's like the car never knew any different.
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What's even worse is that they haven't even touched the bottom ends. I have 6k into just the engine in my lightning and lots of weight dropped and barely run 10.90. These guys spend a couple thousand dollars and it's like the car never knew any different.

So an 08 base vette would be the way to go?

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What's even worse is that they haven't even touched the bottom ends. I have 6k into just the engine in my lightning and lots of weight dropped and barely run 10.90. These guys spend a couple thousand dollars and it's like the car never knew any different.
I have seen that the drivability for a Cammed LS engine is horrible. How bad is it?
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So an 08 base vette would be the way to go?

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I have seen that the drivability for a Cammed LS engine is horrible. How bad is it?
That depends entirely on who does the work and who tunes it. The drive ability on any car can be **** if its not tuned properly. My buddies have no problems with their vettes. One of them is a 06 z06 and the other is a 08 but idk what kind. Both of them leave me in the dust on the way to car shows and what not when I'm in the 5.0. Any vette will be better platform for what you are wanting to build, and might prove to be more consistent as well. Your 5.0 can be a beast track car as well, don't get me wrong. But you'll need a better Trans(if you have a manual), full suspension, forced induction, boss long block at the least, and a good diet to compete with the fast cars like vettes, vipers, gtrs, supras, or big block muscle cars.
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So an 08 base vette would be the way to go? ---------- Post added at 02:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:37 PM ---------- I have seen that the drivability for a Cammed LS engine is horrible. How bad is it?
A Z06 would be better. That LS7 is an amazing engine.
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A Z06 would be better. That LS7 is an amazing engine.
True. A z06 with full exhaust/cam/fast and a tune is just down right nasty.
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True. A z06 with full exhaust/cam/fast and a tune is just down right nasty.
Sounds gay to me, and it probably gets bad mpgs :p jk that would be fffff awesome
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Sounds gay to me, and it probably gets bad mpgs :p jk that would be fffff awesome
Id expect around 15average. The guy with the procharged vette got 26hwy when we went on a 5hr trip. My 5.0 only got 23. That's at 65mph with some spirited driving here and there.
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The c6 zo6 stock was running mid 11s all day long at the track on 20s.. corvette are fast... rule of thumb is a mustang needs 100 more horsepower to even consider running with a zo6
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If you want a cheap 10 second car, go 4th gen Fbody 98 - 02.

If you want to spend more money and still have a nice car, get either a C5 or C6 vette.

A C5 Z06 with full bolt ons, a cam and a tune will get you 120+ trap speeds and low 11's, possibly 10's. If you need more, spray it.

Same thing applies to a C6.

As for drive-ability of a big cammed LSx, my Z28 has an MS3 (Magic Stick 3) specs - 237/242 .603"/.609" on a 112 LSA. The largest cam I would recommend for a DD would be an MS4 (239/242 .649"/.609" 112 LSA). With these larger cams, some people complain about cam surge at lower rpm (idle - 1500 rpm). I had this issue initially but that was when I tried to tune the car myself. I took the car to a professional (Mike Norris - Home Page ) and have had no issues since. I average about 23 mpg mixed driving in this car, which isn't bad for a car that traps over 100 in the 1/8 and nearly 130 in the 1/4.
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