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Old 12-11-2013, 09:15 AM   #71
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We'll yeah most likely! But you never know till we race. Unless your times are just way better

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It really depends on the driver big time. I wish I could have driven that 3v I bet I could have gotten it to hit the 10's in the 1000 foot sumb!€H..
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2v here never lost to a 3v. raced a full bolt on cam/ heads 3v still beat it by a .1 of a second
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I'll race you.
We'll sure lol let me put my slicks on and my nitrous kit.

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And how much you got at the wheels with that 2.3 whipple? And what's your best time?
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We'll sure lol let me put my slicks on and my nitrous kit.

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And how much you got at the wheels with that 2.3 whipple? And what's your best time?
On slicks the car ran 11.7. Just put cams in it now so should be over 500 to the wheels after I get it tuned. Should be able to hit low 11s easily then. My 1000 foot is in the high 9s low 10s
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On slicks the car ran 11.7. Just put cams in it now so should be over 500 to the wheels after I get it tuned. Should be able to hit low 11s easily then. My 1000 foot is in the high 9s low 10s
I ran a 10.5 in the 1000foot with slicks about to put nitrous on the car and a tune from Ortiz. We should actually be a good race then maybe.

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On slicks the car ran 11.7. Just put cams in it now so should be over 500 to the wheels after I get it tuned. Should be able to hit low 11s easily then. My 1000 foot is in the high 9s low 10s
Even though ik you'd still beat me
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I ran a 10.5 in the 1000foot with slicks about to put nitrous on the car and a tune from Ortiz. We should actually be a good race then maybe.

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Even though ik you'd still beat me
It would be. A 400 hp 2v is close to a 500 hp 3v. Weight is key
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It would be. A 400 hp 2v is close to a 500 hp 3v. Weight is key
I would like to see that race
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It would be. A 400 hp 2v is close to a 500 hp 3v. Weight is key
You go to mustang week?
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I would like to see that race
Nitrous is a torque monster. After these cams I can't wait to see. They gain after 3k rpms and that is where I feel I was weaker

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If you do go next year we should run them I'll probably go I'm sure we could find a strip
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If you do go next year we should run them I'll probably go I'm sure we could find a strip
We can run at the drag strip there. I'm sure boss will go too. I'll be showing mine and probably do every event I can
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We can run at the drag strip there. I'm sure boss will go too. I'll be showing mine and probably do every event I can
Never been but I'm really excited about it
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Never been but I'm really excited about it
Yeah me too lol I already took off that whole week haha
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Don't really car for racing other mustangs but it's just a race if Ya win it's a win if Ya lose then all we'll. I know there's always gonna be somebody faster.
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We can run at the drag strip there. I'm sure boss will go too. I'll be showing mine and probably do every event I can
I've never been but I am planning to this year. It's gonna be great! We need to rent a house/condo. Allan is taking about renting a house and splitting it
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Don't really car for racing other mustangs but it's just a race if Ya win it's a win if Ya lose then all we'll. I know there's always gonna be somebody faster.
Yeah I feel ya man. I just like racing period. I don't care who it is lol

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I've never been but I am planning to this year. It's gonna be great! We need to rent a house/condo. Allan is taking about renting a house and splitting it
And yeah that would be cool! I'm not looking to spend a **** ton of money lol
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Bolt on Machs with gears/tune and a really good suspension setup routinely get into the 11s.
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Bolt on Machs with gears/tune and a really good suspension setup routinely get into the 11s.
Post one.. Just one video of a Mach that is bolt on only that has gotten into the 11s. I'm tired of you saying this phrase over and over when it's not true.

The ONLY mach 1s (bolt on only) that are running 11s are completely gutted interiors, cams, full racing slicks, 4:10-4:30 gearing and solid welded axles so that they can launch at 5k rpm and not send parts flying everywhere. You are expecting way too much out of a car in the 300 crank Hp range stock to be able to compete with 11 second cars in its weight range. By the time you have made your mach 1 completely non-street able by welding axles, adding huge rear gears, and taking out any non necessity in the form of weight it's not even worth it. Only so you can say what? Oh look I have a NA 11 sec Mach 1? Now, if you told me the car weighed 3,000 pounds I would believe you.
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Post one.. Just one video of a Mach that is bolt on only that has gotten into the 11s. I'm tired of you saying this phrase over and over when it's not true.

The ONLY mach 1s (bolt on only) that are running 11s are completely gutted interiors, cams, full racing slicks, 4:10-4:30 gearing and solid welded axles so that they can launch at 5k rpm and not send parts flying everywhere. You are expecting way too much out of a car in the 300 crank Hp range stock to be able to compete with 11 second cars in its weight range. By the time you have made your mach 1 completely non-street able by welding axles, adding huge rear gears, and taking out any non necessity in the form of weight it's not even worth it. Only so you can say what? Oh look I have a NA 11 sec Mach 1? Now, if you told me the car weighed 3,000 pounds I would believe you.
There is a 11.34 and 11.32 video of a 04 Mach 1 on yt. Sorry I can't post a direct link because im on Mobil. It's a 4.88 geared car with suspension exhaust and intake work and slicks. Google Keith's 04 Mach 'won' it's full weight car though I believe. Worth a look.
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I'll have to dig for some videos, I have not taken any myself at tracks. However, get to a big track. Not some podunk one in the middle of nowhere, get to one where serious cars show up. You will see some 11 second NA 4Vs even 96-98 cars can do it. Gears, sticky tires, suspension, bolt ons a tune and the driver mod can get you there. Hell, you've got cammed 2Vs going low 12s...
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I'll have to dig for some videos, I have not taken any myself at tracks. However, get to a big track. Not some podunk one in the middle of nowhere, get to one where serious cars show up. You will see some 11 second NA 4Vs even 96-98 cars can do it. Gears, sticky tires, suspension, bolt ons a tune and the driver mod can get you there. Hell, you've got cammed 2Vs going low 12s...
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Post one.. Just one video of a Mach that is bolt on only that has gotten into the 11s. I'm tired of you saying this phrase over and over when it's not true.

The ONLY mach 1s (bolt on only) that are running 11s are completely gutted interiors, cams, full racing slicks, 4:10-4:30 gearing and solid welded axles so that they can launch at 5k rpm and not send parts flying everywhere. You are expecting way too much out of a car in the 300 crank Hp range stock to be able to compete with 11 second cars in its weight range. By the time you have made your mach 1 completely non-street able by welding axles, adding huge rear gears, and taking out any non necessity in the form of weight it's not even worth it. Only so you can say what? Oh look I have a NA 11 sec Mach 1? Now, if you told me the car weighed 3,000 pounds I would believe you.
+1 people have different opinion of what a bolt on car is... I would take any one of those 11 second mach 1s and pull on them on the highway. Any built car can launch at 5k with a built rear end and slicks.... People have told me that a supercharger and cams are bolt on parts... And I have cams and a supercharger so therefore I must have a bolt on 3v..... Um no lol my car is far from a bolt on
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Clarification, with an untouched longblock.

And yeah obviously your car would pull on one of those Machs. Just like when you see a cammed 2V run a faster time than a Coyote at the 1/4. The Coyote is in the process of rapidly reeling it in by the time they hit the traps and about to blow right by it.
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I'll have to dig for some videos, I have not taken any myself at tracks. However, get to a big track. Not some podunk one in the middle of nowhere, get to one where serious cars show up. You will see some 11 second NA 4Vs even 96-98 cars can do it. Gears, sticky tires, suspension, bolt ons a tune and the driver mod can get you there. Hell, you've got cammed 2Vs going low 12s...
Some Podunk track? I live in one of the largest racing scene anywhere. Some of the fastest cars in the United States are from Texas. Matter of fact, people from all over the United States bring their cars here for Texas mile.

You guys are crazy! I can tell you right now with first hand "my own eyes" experience that I have see full bolt on machs routinely run very high 12s and into the 13s 99.999999% of the time. You'll see pulley swapped cobras with alot of bolt ons line up right next to them and run mid-low 11s.

Hell, my coyote is almost full bolt on and my best run was still in the 12s(with a poor 60ft) going up against a procharged 4.6 3v who ran a best of a 12.40 something.

A cammed 2v making 12s is crazy also! Do you realize many full bolt on 2vs can barely break into 14s? Also, full bolt on 2vs barely scrape by making 200rwhp! No way in hell you are going to get a 3800 pound car down the 1/4 in 12 seconds with 200rwhp. Add cams and you will see maybe a 30rwhp gain on a happy dyno? Even with 250rwhp.. Not gunna happen.

Been drag racing for about 6 years now for every season until I break something or lose out and never have I ever seen the superhero mustangs you guys are watching fly down the track
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Some Podunk track? I live in one of the largest racing scene anywhere. Some of the fastest cars in the United States are from Texas. Matter of fact, people from all over the United States bring their cars here for Texas mile.

You guys are crazy! I can tell you right now with first hand "my own eyes" experience that I have see full bolt on machs routinely run very high 12s and into the 13s 99.999999% of the time. You'll see pulley swapped cobras with alot of bolt ons line up right next to them and run mid-low 11s.

Hell, my coyote is almost full bolt on and my best run was still in the 12s(with a poor 60ft) going up against a procharged 4.6 3v who ran a best of a 12.40 something.

A cammed 2v making 12s is crazy also! Do you realize many full bolt on 2vs can barely break into 14s? Also, full bolt on 2vs barely scrape by making 200rwhp! No way in hell you are going to get a 3800 pound car down the 1/4 in 12 seconds with 200rwhp. Add cams and you will see maybe a 30rwhp gain on a happy dyno? Even with 250rwhp.. Not gunna happen.

Been drag racing for about 6 years now for every season until I break something or lose out and never have I ever seen the superhero mustangs you guys are watching fly down the track
Lol I have a vid to show you but can't post off my phone it's a stock mach runs a 13.1with nothing done to it and a few other vids of a bolt on mach running 12.1 so ill post them later
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Lol I have a vid to show you but can't post off my phone it's a stock mach runs a 13.1with nothing done to it and a few other vids of a bolt on mach running 12.1 so ill post them later
Hey man, I'm hoping somebody proves me wrong! I have never seen it with my own eyes and guys on Mach 1 registry say that the car needs nitrous or f1 to run 11s as well so surely I'm not crazy. We are talking about a completely unscathed mach 1 stock long block with external bolt ons only and no power adder at all. Just making sure this is the case

Being a physicist/mechanical engineer by profession, I can tell you that a 3800# full weight car running upwards of 115-120mph in the quarter with only 300-340rwhp is very unlikely. Coyotes barely do it with the same weight and 100 more rwhp
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I know a Procharged Mach 1 running a 9.50 in 1000 foot that's a 11 second pass in the 1/4 mile.
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That's not a bolt on
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It bolts on the car.. With some brackets.
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It bolts on the car.. With some brackets.
Lol! This is my point exactly. Took a supercharger to run 11s. Why in hell would he spend 5k on a blower when he could just go full bolt ons an run 11s? Seems like a waste to me
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It bolts on the car.. With some brackets.
So my car is a bolt on?
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So my car is a bolt on?
Yes! It's also bone stock
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Some Podunk track? I live in one of the largest racing scene anywhere. Some of the fastest cars in the United States are from Texas. Matter of fact, people from all over the United States bring their cars here for Texas mile. You guys are crazy! I can tell you right now with first hand "my own eyes" experience that I have see full bolt on machs routinely run very high 12s and into the 13s 99.999999% of the time. You'll see pulley swapped cobras with alot of bolt ons line up right next to them and run mid-low 11s. Hell, my coyote is almost full bolt on and my best run was still in the 12s(with a poor 60ft) going up against a procharged 4.6 3v who ran a best of a 12.40 something. A cammed 2v making 12s is crazy also! Do you realize many full bolt on 2vs can barely break into 14s? Also, full bolt on 2vs barely scrape by making 200rwhp! No way in hell you are going to get a 3800 pound car down the 1/4 in 12 seconds with 200rwhp. Add cams and you will see maybe a 30rwhp gain on a happy dyno? Even with 250rwhp.. Not gunna happen. Been drag racing for about 6 years now for every season until I break something or lose out and never have I ever seen the superhero mustangs you guys are watching fly down the track
You've gone off the deep end. There's a full bolt on stalled and geared mach running 12.3s at Amarillo dragway. He went 12.3 with the da at 6800'. I'd HATE to run at your track, seems to be one of the slowest in the country from your stories. I have a buddy with a full bolt on 4.10 03 termi hitting 10.8s
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