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Old 03-15-2014, 09:00 AM   #1
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Opening day....help.

Today is opening day at the drags here in Wichita, and I'm praying to Zuul that I can make it (work 3rd shift). I haven't taken a car to the strip in 7 years, and that was my stock auto 1988 Camaro that did a best of 16.9. Any tips on launching and shift points in my '14 GT 6spd? I'm still on stock Pirellis with the mods listed in my sig.

I'm also going to be running BAMA's 89 performance tune. Any guesses on what I should be running? When they open at 11am, the DA is forecasted to be around 2200-2300ft.
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Leave at idle and don't punch it immediately out of the hole, especially this early in the season when all of the old rubber has been scraped off the starting line.
I have 3.31's and was experiencing bad wheel hop off the line and on the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts.
LCA's and an UCA will go on before I go back.
If I had to guess a trap speed I would figure in the 114-116 range with ET's on street tires all over the place.
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Leave on the last yellow, 13.10 @ 108-109. I'd do the UCA first or all at once. All S197 Mustangs have wheel hop issues on street tires. Try for a 2.0 or better 60' the rest is easy. Just drive through on the first pass to find your way. No one makes a killer first pass the first time out. Take it slow, learn and have fun.
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Some good advice already listed here. ^^^

The most important thing is to take your time. If it's a Test and Tune day, than there's no penalty for leaving the line late (reaction time). I suggest not worrying about the tree and just leaving when you're read, after the green light. This will help your consistency for finding the best launch.

Traction is definitely going to be an issue with street tires. Be sure to drive around the water pit and just give your tires a quick spin to heat them up a little. Do not sit and perform a burnout, as that will make the tires greasy and slippery. Also, make sure to deflate the rear tires to about 24psi and inflate the front tires to 38psi. That should help a little as well.

Last but not least, don't forget to have fun! Don't worry about what others are doing, just enjoy yourself!

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I missed opening day unfortunately but I'll give some of these a shot this Saturday. I really appreciate all the tips. Hopefully I'll get some LCAs soon, but I can't wait to get a baseline down.
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Well did you get your car down the track yet?
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Old 03-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #7
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Not yet. My mom came to visit the opening day. The weather yesterday was 40 degrees with a 20mph headwind. Then during the week it was 70s lol. Mother nature doesn't want me getting her all hot and bothered.

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Not yet. My mom came to visit the opening day. The weather yesterday was 40 degrees with a 20mph headwind. Then during the week it was 70s lol. Mother nature doesn't want me getting her all hot and bothered.

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The better the engine will run and the less traction the tires will have. Plus a strong headwind...

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Pfft just heat those *****es up and don't drive through the water box like half the ppl do on street tires...

Honestly I'd get some cheap rims for the rear and throw some 28" slicks on there for track days.
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I'm still too paranoid about the axle tube to run slicks. And even when I was 16, I knew not to drive through the water box. But still saw people twice my age driving through it on street tires and doing burnouts lol.

Weather is supposed to be a little better tomorrow. About 50 by the time the track opens. Then of course 80 on Sunday when they don't have test and tune.

Should I turn off AdvancTrac when I gingerly leave the line?
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Well crap. Just looked up the rules for the local track. Apparently if I'm faster than 13.99 I need a SNELL (2005 or newer) approved helmet. Hopefully I can find someone nice enough to let me borrow one. If I get to the point where I run 11.49 or faster, I'll need a roll bar with padding and a 5 point harness.
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Sometimes, (at least around here) tracks may rent helmets, you might want to check into that if you can't score one.
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True, I've rented a helmet at an auto-x event before. I haven't been to this track in a few years and management/ownership has changed so I'll have to ask when I go. But after my first run, because I don't want them to kick me out during tech after I've already paid to enter.
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Just call ahead, or check their website...good to know beforehand. You want to run down the track more than once.
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They don't have helmet rental....fvck.
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Time to check all your motorcycle driving buddies.
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Talking to a local 5.0 driver and she informed me just play dumb the first day and they'll let me run, but next time I'll need one.
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^^ I was also think about that just say you don't know how fast it is or say it is slower then it actually is. But the downside to that is if you do crash going that fast your going to really want that helmet lol but I doubt you will crash
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Haha well just in case, I do have a buddy that said he would let me borrow his motorcycle helmet.
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^^ yea good idea, those helmets aren't for show they could very easily save your life.
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Well, KS, how did it go...?
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Haha, sorry. Posted it so much on Facebook that I forgot about here.

Setup: BBR off road x-pipe, Roush AB, 3.73 gears, BAMA 89 performance tune

First run: clipped the water box, AdvanceTrak off, dumped clutch - 15.1 @ 106 with a 2.56 60ft

Second: sport mode, dumped clutch - 14.6 @ 106 with 2.45 60ft

Third: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 14.3 @ 106 with 2.23 60ft

Fourth: Advancetrak off, left @ 2000 - 14.1 @ 107 with 2.33 60ft

Fifth: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 13.8 @ 108 with 2.22 60ft

Sixth: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 13.6 @ 108 with 2.15 60ft

Seventh: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 13.6 @ 108 with 2.15 60ft

I'm starting to think I wasn't going WOT soon enough due to worrying about spinning through 1st and 2nd. The first 3 runs I kept missing 2nd and hitting the engine cutoff before I could get back in it. It ended up turning into racing, rather than trying to set a good time. I was more worried about beating the person next to me and getting a good reaction time than getting a feel for the car. Which was probably my main problem with times.
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Yeah, sometimes that spirit of competition takes over.
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The worst part was that every single car I lined up against, I should have beaten. Fastest car I ran against was pulling low 13s or high 12s. Starting to lose confidence in my Bama tune.
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Haha, sorry. Posted it so much on Facebook that I forgot about here.

Setup: BBR off road x-pipe, Roush AB, 3.73 gears, BAMA 89 performance tune

First run: clipped the water box, AdvanceTrak off, dumped clutch - 15.1 @ 106 with a 2.56 60ft

Second: sport mode, dumped clutch - 14.6 @ 106 with 2.45 60ft

Third: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 14.3 @ 106 with 2.23 60ft

Fourth: Advancetrak off, left @ 2000 - 14.1 @ 107 with 2.33 60ft

Fifth: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 13.8 @ 108 with 2.22 60ft

Sixth: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 13.6 @ 108 with 2.15 60ft

Seventh: sport mode, left @ 2000 - 13.6 @ 108 with 2.15 60ft

I'm starting to think I wasn't going WOT soon enough due to worrying about spinning through 1st and 2nd. The first 3 runs I kept missing 2nd and hitting the engine cutoff before I could get back in it. It ended up turning into racing, rather than trying to set a good time. I was more worried about beating the person next to me and getting a good reaction time than getting a feel for the car. Which was probably my main problem with times.

This does show you how important the first 60' is.
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The 60 ft is everything. Why didn't you use your race tune on your tuner.
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Because it has the ghost cam and I wasn't sure if I had got all of the 89 out of the system. I wasn't sure I wanted to go WOT with that much timing. I'm putting a call into BAMA once my new wheels/tires get here to recalibrate the speedometer and get a race tune without the cam.
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Get a wideband if you are getting canned tunes. Seriously. And definitely wear a helmet. You never know what can happen and the last thing you need is head trauma. /soapbox
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Can you elaborate on the necessity of the wideband? This is the first time someone has mentioned it, that I've seen, when talking about 5.0s
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If you have no way of looking at your a/f ratio how can you be sure the dude sending you your tunes didn't eff something up or something in your car is not playing nice?

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You wouldn't think there'd be too much to worry about with a basically stock car.
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You'd think that but you would not be the first person to find out they are running pig rich or way too lean from a canned tune the hard way. You are likely fine if your car is near stock but IMHO, if one is messing with the stock tune AT ALL, one should have a wideband.
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I think I'll just swap the BAMA for a VMP race tune. Might even spring for E85 after I dig up more info on how the factory lines hold up.
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I see your running 108 exactly like I said you would. That's your Wt./HP. It won't change much until you either remove and replace what's inefficient or you buy more power. You should run 12.90s stock with everything dialed in @ a DA of 1000 or less. Street tires are what they are. STREET tires. You can get a 2.000 though. Hoping to get out next week myself.
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