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Old 04-14-2016, 12:12 PM   #1
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So either Wednesday or the following Wednesday me and my friend are going to Sonoma raceway test n tune. He has a 2011 charger RT with just flowmaster exhaust and he's on either 20' or 22' rims so that will slow him down. I have a base 2014 mustang 3.7 with nothing besides Roush axle backs. This will be his first time running and I have already gone to the track before. My question is how do y'all think this race/races showed turn out?
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Mustang v6 vs charger RT

Also will be running a friend with a stock 2006 Chrysler 300 Hemi on 20's
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I'm assuming the RT is the V6....if he wins feel bad.
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Mustang v6 vs charger RT

I'd be leaning towards your car. Chargers are heavy and those wheels won't help the 5.7 HEMI at all. But it might be close you never know.


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I'm assuming the RT is the V6....if he wins feel bad.

RT is the V8... Trust me id feel bad if I lost to a v6 charger! There to heavy for a v6
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I'd be leaning towards your car. Chargers are heavy and those wheels won't help the 5.7 HEMI at all. But it might be close you never know.


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Ya we'll see... I'm hoping also since its his first time one I can get him on reaction time and two that he will most likely spin
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Let me know if you ever decide to go to SA Raceway anytime. Me and a friend been wanting to go once summer turns it's ugly head.
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What track is SA? Haha sorry from Texas so still learning all the tracks out here!
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Let me know if you ever decide to go to SA Raceway anytime. Me and a friend been wanting to go once summer turns it's ugly head.

Ih San Antonio sorry I'm in school at In California... I'm bringing it back to Texas for winter break! Me and my friend with a 5.0 are going there then!
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So either Wednesday or the following Wednesday me and my friend are going to Sonoma raceway test n tune. He has a 2011 charger RT with just flowmaster exhaust and he's on either 20' or 22' rims so that will slow him down. I have a base 2014 mustang 3.7 with nothing besides Roush axle backs. This will be his first time running and I have already gone to the track before. My question is how do y'all think this race/races showed turn out?
Are you doing the road course or the drag strip?
I'd be very interested in the results.
I have almost the exact 2 cars except my 2011 RT is an AWD and my Mustang is the PP.
Although my RT is about 900 lbs heavier then my Mustang that thing seems to move once it's rolling.
Never had a chance to really test them out. I'd guess they're pretty darn close in a straight line.
EDIT: Oh BTW my AWD RT came with P235/55R19. Relatively tall tires.
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Hopefully you get a good launch at the line and pull on him right away before he starts feeling you in. Hope someone videos the race. That would be a cool one to watch. Good luck.
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Ya it will be a drag race... @ Sonoma raceway... He has 22's on so that won't help him


And I'll try to get it on video and post it here... Only reason I'm nervous is cause my stang is a base so those 2.73 gears kill me
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2011 R/T had 370 hp and gobs of torque. The R/T package also came with lower gears than the non R/T. Our 2.73 gears are definitely a hindrance off the line. It might be a tough win. Good luck.
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With no mods, I dont know man. I personally wouldn't bank on it if it's a V8.

Here is a bone stock dyno video of one of those -

348 rwhp 374 rwtq

I would say No. Now if you had full bolt-ons - Maybe. The 22s won't be as much of a hold-back as your 2.73s. My friend and I raced at SA Raceway when he had 2.73s and he was running 14 seconds consecutively. He swapped to 3.73s a week later and was running 13.4-13.6.

The only change was gears.
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What track is SA? Haha sorry from Texas so still learning all the tracks out here!
San Antonio Raceway. They do 1/8 miles sometimes but just mainly 1/4 miles.
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Call me a traitor, but I have always been a Mopar fan. Ford has only released two vehicles that have ever impressed me; the GT40 and of course the Mustang.

If your friend with the Challenger can't drive then you may have a chance. If the track is prepped properly and he airs his tires down to about 20lbs his car will hook and walk off due to the weight and torque.

My younger brother has a 2014 Mustang V6 with the performance package. I will admit that the car is quick. It accelerates smooth, and shifts effortlessly.

He was bragging about the fact that his V6 has more power than my 02 GT. He is right, on paper the 14 V6 should walk away from me. He could not have been more wrong. I have 3.73 gears and loads of torque. I walked him for the 1/8 and made him run me down in the quarter. He did beat me, but only by a 10th.

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Mustang v6 vs charger RT

Don't limit yourself to just one brand. That would be boring. Way too many cool cars out there, from every corner of the globe.


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Don't limit yourself to just one brand. That would be boring. Way too many cool cars out there, from every corner of the globe.


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Exactly. I hold to that same mantra with my guitars and music equipment. I have Gibson, Fender, G&L, Music Man, Breedlove, and a few others. That's just guitars. The rest of the equipment is just as diverse.

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Mustang v6 vs charger RT

It's funny watching people arguing over brands. This brand is better than that one. This car is better than that cause it's from Ford or Porsche or Nissan, etc. Blah Blah Blah


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It's funny watching people arguing over brands. This brand is better than that one. This car is better than that cause it's from Ford or Porsche or Nissan, etc. Blah Blah Blah


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Yea I am definitely not like that. At the end of the day, I know everyone is entitled to whatever because it's their own hard earned money that goes toward their commuter or drag racer.

I have a friend that gives me grief about my "Ford", but I have never once made any jokes on his cars. Which have been chevy, scion, ford, dodge, etc.

I say - Rock with what you got and take pride in it.

Of course one day I would love to own a newer Corvette. But that is another discussion.
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Both the cars chilling in the garage... It will be a 1/4 by the way saw some of y'all talking about the 1/8
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Both the cars chilling in the garage... It will be a 1/4 by the way saw some of y'all talking about the 1/8
I thought it was a Challenger for some reason. You may have a chance with the extra weight of the sedan.

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Where I think I'll be ok is 1. The 22's, 2. The 900 pound weight difference, plus he ways almost 300 (D1 D lineman) where I weigh only 185... So over 1,000 pound difference
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Where I think I'll be ok is 1. The 22's, 2. The 900 pound weight difference, plus he ways almost 300 (D1 D lineman) where I weigh only 185... So over 1,000 pound difference
You will have to overcome the torque of that car by finding the sweet spot in your rpms. Too low and you will bog the engine. Too high and you will likely break stuff if the track is prepped. You also do not want to spin at all. Any loss of traction will give the horsepower of the the Hemi the advantage.

From a dead stop torque is going to allow the Hemi to launch at a lower RPM and quickly hit the red line.

Truth be told, this should be a true driver's race. It will be won at the starting line. Neither car should easily run the other down.

Drag racing is a balancing act. I raced drag bikes for years. I ran street and super street. No wheelie bars, no slicks, just you mastering the machine. Then after an 8 sec pass you get to look over everything to see what can be done to gain another 10th of a second.

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Could be a game changer by I am ordering a bama tune either tonight or tomorrow... So if that comes in before the race that could really help me out
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You will have to overcome the torque of that car by finding the sweet spot in your rpms. Too low and you will bog the engine. Too high and you will likely break stuff if the track is prepped. You also do not want to spin at all. Any loss of traction will give the horsepower of the the Hemi the advantage.

From a dead stop torque is going to allow the Hemi to launch at a lower RPM and quickly hit the red line.

Truth be told, this should be a true driver's race. It will be won at the starting line. Neither car should easily run the other down.

Drag racing is a balancing act. I raced drag bikes for years. I ran street and super street. No wheelie bars, no slicks, just you mastering the machine. Then after an 8 sec pass you get to look over everything to see what can be done to gain another 10th of a second.

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Also I have a automatic so will be holding it at 2,000 rpms... Didn't have a bad probably spinning with this last time at the track
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If you really wanna win then my advice is to deploy a distraction.

Shortly after launch, jump out and ghost ride the whip. This should confuse your rival and cause them to slow down and look. That is when you jump back in and floor it!





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If you really wanna win then my advice is to deploy a distraction.

Shortly after launch, jump out and ghost ride the whip. This should confuse your rival and cause them to slow down and look. That is when you jump back in and floor it!





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If you really wanna win then my advice is to deploy a distraction.

Shortly after launch, jump out and ghost ride the whip. This should confuse your rival and cause them to slow down and look. That is when you jump back in and floor it!



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You have no idea how hard i laughed while typing that up and picturing it happening. 😂


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Where I think I'll be ok is 1. The 22's, 2. The 900 pound weight difference, plus he ways almost 300 (D1 D lineman) where I weigh only 185... So over 1,000 pound difference
The 900 lbs was the difference to my Charger being an AWD. A base Charger would be about 750 heavier then your Mustang.
And you must know that all Chargers are auto's. (It can't be rev'd up with the brake on for longer then 5 seconds without it going into a limp mode.)
The rear ends are only 2.65 on the base charger.
3.06 on the R/T with Road & Track package, which I think that one is.
And 3.06 in the AWD version.
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Update: he bailed on me for this Wednesday... So hopefully we will run next Wednesday (I'm fine with that my tuner will be here by then)... I'm still going to run at the track tonight so hopefully I can beat my previous time


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If you lose, it will be because of your MPG 2.73 gears . Your tune will help you a lot.
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Update: he bailed on me for this Wednesday... So hopefully we will run next Wednesday (I'm fine with that my tuner will be here by then)... I'm still going to run at the track tonight so hopefully I can beat my previous time
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82 degrees and humid best I could get was a 14.3@98.09... The 2.73 gears and automatic are killing me... The tune should help that

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