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Old 05-16-2014, 09:28 AM   #71
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this isn't isolated to just the 13's and up. If you look at the "permanent removal of adaptive shifting" thread on allfordmustangs.com it was from mid 2012. I highly doubt all of those guys in that thread had 2013's at that time. If you look in some of their signatures, you can see some have 2011's and 12's.
+1^^ This does date back quite some time before the 2013's were produced. Very good point, hadn't put that together when I was reading that threat. Thanks for the reminder
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I just got off the phone with Don at Steeda and he says that they can not remove the adaptive shifting.

Also all 2011+ mustangs have the adaptive shifting.
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I just got off the phone with Don at Steeda and he says that they can not remove the adaptive shifting.

Also all 2011+ mustangs have the adaptive shifting.
Fair enough, that settles it for me. Since Steeda has such close ties with Ford for such a long time, I tend to take their word for it. Thanks for that update
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Just out of curiosity, why don't you pull fuse #47 for ten minutes and see if there is any difference. It won't hurt anything and may help us narrow this down. Just a suggestion, any help would be most appreciated
Excellent idea. I will remove the fuse 47 and see if i notice any difference in my throttle response.

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Old 05-16-2014, 10:40 AM   #75
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According to what I'm reading, EVERY 2014 3.7 auto-trans with a Bama Tune will have this problem. Is that a correct statement?

Where is American Muscle on all this? Why haven't they chimed in with a comment? Their lack of participation doesn't help the issue at all. I'm losing confidence.


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EVERY automatic will have this. It isn't limited to just one tuner. It is part of the Ford programming that can't be overcome.

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I have heard people in this thread say Manuals are included and it is only Auto's. I understand it wont affect the shift points on a manual but will it affect the throttle response on one?
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I called BAMA and asked. They said this will reset the cars learing and it can be done through most tuners by resetting the CAM or you can do with fuse or negative terminal removal. It is something that affects any GT, V6 and any Tuner
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Does anybody know if the new generation will have this adaptive shift feature? If not I think ill be trading in my 14 a lot sooner than I thought.
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I reset my throttle every few weeks. The way i do it is, turn key on (don't start). Take around 15 seconds to floor the throttle, then take around 15 seconds to let the throttle (gas pedal) to return all the way back. Turn key off, most of the time i do this before i go to bed but i think letting your Mustang sit for a couple hours after doing this will work also.

This was the way i reset my last throttle by wire car (Dodge). I think it works on my Mustang too
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I have a manual but I'm gonna try this to see if their is a difference. Do your pull and put it back in after 10 or so minutes with the car off or do you need to cycle the key once?

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Car off while you wipe down the motor or while you drain the oil from your catch can. I do it once a week.

Also I called MPT on Friday morning and they were going to get back to my yesterday and never did. It is safe to assume that no tuner can disable this function as of yet.
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I have a manual but I'm gonna try this to see if their is a difference. Do your pull and put it back in after 10 or so minutes with the car off or do you need to cycle the key once?

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I don't think pulling fuse #47 requires an idle relearn otherwise a rough idle would have been mentioned by now. unless I missed it haha. Multiple fuses supply power to the PCM. So the idle trim memory may be saved using power supplied by one of those other fuses.

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I don't think pulling fuse #47 requires an idle relearn otherwise a rough idle would have been mentioned by now. unless I missed it haha. Multiple fuses supply power to the PCM. So the idle trim memory may be saved using power supplied by one of those other fuses.

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The last two times I tuned, 93r and 91h with the mods I have I had surging issues at almost idle speed. It took about 10 minutes than all was good.

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The last two times I tuned, 93r and 91h with the mods I have I had surging issues at almost idle speed. It took about 10 minutes than all was good.
Retuning is a lot more in-depth than pulling that fuse though.
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Not having to do anything and having the tune just sticking would be the ideal situation! Lol I've almost completely lost faith in tuning these 3.7s! What a pita having to change tunes every couple days or pulling fuses to retain your tunes performance! Bama, mpt Steeda are you or can you do anything about this ****!!!!! Funny how no one from AM has chimed in about this!

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Not having to do anything and having the tune just sticking would be the ideal situation! Lol I've almost completely lost faith in tuning these 3.7s! What a pita having to change tunes every couple days or pulling fuses to retain your tunes performance! Bama, mpt Steeda are you or can you do anything about this ****!!!!! Funny how no one from AM has chimed in about this!
Yeah I ordered a relay and harness so that power to the fuse gets cut every time I turn the car off. That'll at least bypass having to pull the fuse every other week.
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Yeah I ordered a relay and harness so that power to the fuse gets cut every time I turn the car off. That'll at least bypass having to pull the fuse every other week.
From where and how much?

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I just tried it out (pulling fuse) and I noticed a change but I wouldn't say it is night and day, 6 MT with MPT 91 Perf. Tune. I'm not going to keep resetting the fuse as That's just going to annoy me that I have to keep doing it.
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It's adaptive learning. Drive harder so it learns.
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It's adaptive learning. Drive harder so it learns.
except when you drive in traffic to and from work every day.. or else ill be flooring it into the back of other cars lol.
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My question is, does this work for cars with tunes, or does it work with stock tuned as well? Because I too have also noticed trannie changes in the last year I've owned my car, especially with the "California roll". I'll bring the car down to about 5mph and at that point, if I don't bring the car to complete stop or if I let off the brake, the transmission will feel like I've shifted from neutral to drive while rolling, just a loud THUNK and the car lurches. Makes me cringe everytime....
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My question is, does this work for cars with tunes, or does it work with stock tuned as well? Because I too have also noticed trannie changes in the last year I've owned my car, especially with the "California roll". I'll bring the car down to about 5mph and at that point, if I don't bring the car to complete stop or if I let off the brake, the transmission will feel like I've shifted from neutral to drive while rolling, just a loud THUNK and the car lurches. Makes me cringe everytime....
If you read through the thread, you'll see that yes, pulling fuse 47 does reset the adaptive shifting on both tuned and untuned vehicles. Tuning resets the adaptive shifting but it doesn't disable it, so eventually it'll start to feel sluggish.
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I did it earlier. Didn't notice much difference driving but the Cali roll problem stopped.
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If you're stock tuned, you probably won't notice a big difference unless at WOT. Normal driving will probably seem about the same. Glad to see it fixed your cali roll problem though haha

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I just received my 93 Performance tune from MPT. I asked if they could disable it and they said no. So I'll be implementing TedG's harness soon. I still have over half a tank of 87 Oct. So I'll have to wait before applying my first tune. I'm friggen stoked!
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I just received my 93 Performance tune from MPT. I asked if they could disable it and they said no. So I'll be implementing TedG's harness soon. I still have over half a tank of 87 Oct. So I'll have to wait before applying my first tune. I'm friggen stoked!
Your In for a treat man. The mpt tune is amazing. My car freakin romps with it.
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If you read through the thread, you'll see that yes, pulling fuse 47 does reset the adaptive shifting on both tuned and untuned vehicles. Tuning resets the adaptive shifting but it doesn't disable it, so eventually it'll start to feel sluggish.
Yep, and that's what this thread is all about. I was wrong in my initial post (back on page 1 of this thread) when I said the MPT tune was not affected...I did not notice any sluggish shifting, because I was driving 90% highway, so my automatic was "learning" those speeds.

About a week ago, I did 3 to 4 days of lousy city stop/go driving, and noticed the shift points began to change. The shifts were still "firm" from the tune, but the shift points were ocurring at a different RPM.

I have all the pieces mentioned in the write up done from the other site (using a 4 blade relay), and plan to build the simple circuit to automatically reset fuse 47 when the car is stopped/restarted.
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