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Old 09-28-2015, 01:23 PM   #1
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Twin Turbo 2013 Mustang GT Install

On3 Performance's TT kit is being installed. I'm no mechanic but I'm attempting to install this kit on my own. I'm struggling trying to remove the nuts off the mid pipes ATM. I understand the risk I was taking with this self-installtion--especially w/no mechanical background. I'm new to forums and I'm hoping there are other DIY mechanics who can help along the way. The kit does come with a install .pdf file which I have gone over, and it tells you things that need to be removed.
Any suggestions on how to remove the AC? Also, I think I stripped the inner grooves on the driver side, mid pipe nuts that connects to the header. I can turn the damn thing with my hand but it is not coming off. How can I solve this problem?

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Old 09-28-2015, 01:38 PM   #2
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You're probably going to have to cut that stud off with a cutoff wheel or dremel tool, if you can get up in there with it. I assume you have turbo manifolds to replace it with anyway, so its not a big issue to cut it off and then worry about it when the manifold isn't in the car anymore.


Removing the A/C is not that hard. unscrew the bolts from it, block the lines and get them out of the way, and get a bypass pulley so the serpentine belt will have the right tension without that present. Youtube that
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Old 09-28-2015, 03:14 PM   #3
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Wow. I had to make another account. OK. So the stud I'm thinking is turning with the nut. I'll have to wait on getting a cut wheel. Can I work on getting the AC out before the mid pipes and headers?

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Yes you can start on everything else.
Still trying to understand how you stripped the bolts your talking about.

And with no mechanic background you are in for a hell of ride with this kit. It's not hard but very time consuming and some tweaking of all the piping to get everything to clear properly.

I hope it's not our DD


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Old 09-28-2015, 04:33 PM   #5
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Lol. I figure, this is a perfect opportunity to gain experience under the hood. I stand corrected about the AC coming out. It is the AC lines needed to be evacuated. Another tool I need to borrow from a family member.
When I decided to take on this project, I didn't take into consideration the piping might not fit peoperly. Luckily I know where to get these things done. I have a truck I also drive around.
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Figured that's what you were talking about when it came to the AC reason why I didn't correct you, and just told you to go ahead with the rest of it.
The piping doesn't need to be cut or anything of that sort. Just word of wisdom. When you start getting the piping going in don't tighten anything right. Leave it all loose so you can adjust it. Also drop the K to install the turbo manifolds. Just support the engine. Makes it a lot more simple. The intercoolers brackets usually need some tweaking also. May have to place bumper on and check clearances a couple times.

Now when you get it done the kit likes to leak around the waste gates so you may have to do some tweaking there also.

Also make sure the manifolds have no blemishes on the side that connects to the heads.


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Also only downside to this kit is the tuning side. You NEED NEED to go with someone who has done this kit b4. There is some serious idle issues with it that need to be addressed with a proper tuner. Someone who has never tuned one b4 is going to have a bad time and you will have **** drivability.


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Appreciate it. Dropping the engine and supporting it with a jack was mentioned in the .pdf but I'm waiting on someone to better explain where I can place the jack to support the engine. I don't want everything falling down on me.
I was referring to the current manifold and mid pipes being cut. As for the stud threads being stripped. Bad angles and the socket wrench got really warm before I was able to turn it with ease.
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Old 09-28-2015, 05:00 PM   #9
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Pick up a engine support bar from harbor freight. No need to support it with a jack. That's a pain in the *** and will get in the way.


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Also only downside to this kit is the tuning side. You NEED NEED to go with someone who has done this kit b4. There is some serious idle issues with it that need to be addressed with a proper tuner. Someone who has never tuned one b4 is going to have a bad time and you will have **** drivability.


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That'll be tough considering hardly anyone in my state has twin turbos and if they do, they had it tuned out of state.
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That'll be tough considering hardly anyone in my state has twin turbos and if they do, they had it tuned out of state.

Go with a email tune from a shop.
And datalog it. What injectors are you using.

I'm telling you bud do not go with a new tuner with his kit.

Email tune look into - central Texas performance.

Or triangle speed shop. Both these shops are the top tuners for the on3 kit


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Go with a email tune from a shop.
And datalog it. What injectors are you using.

I'm telling you bud do not go with a new tuner with his kit.

Email tune look into - central Texas performance.

Or triangle speed shop. Both these shops are the top tuners for the on3 kit


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Ok. I'll look into it. The kit does NOT come with injectors or an upgraded fuel pump. I figured once I got everything in, I can go research/shop for the right one.
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Ok. I'll look into it. The kit does NOT come with injectors or an upgraded fuel pump. I figured once I got everything in, I can go research/shop for the right one.

I know it doesn't. That's why I asked what injectors you went with.

What power level are you wanting ?
And you do not need a upgraded pump. Only time you will need a upgraded fuel system is if your going over 750 hp


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Old 09-28-2015, 05:22 PM   #14
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The only reason I got the kit was because my buddy has a 2004 z28 camaro with a single turbo application. He embarrassed me when we went to the track. He's running 17# of boost. I just want a respectable time on the next outing. 600 RWHP is the goal.
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I know it doesn't. That's why I asked what injectors you went with.

What power level are you wanting ?
And you do not need a upgraded pump. Only time you will need a upgraded fuel system is if your going over 750 hp


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I like what you're saying. Options. I've been trying to find out max hp on current fuel system but had no luck. What about clutch?

Eventually after tuning, sometime down the road I'd like to push it a bit further with HP. One step at a time.
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With your goal of 600hp

All you will need is 47lb injectors - $250
And a BAP - $250
That's it.

Stock clutch is perfectly fine at 600hp.


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Old 10-01-2015, 07:29 PM   #17
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I found a informative page that helps you decide what injectors you need for your power adder.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/is-you...l--79-13-.html



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That's not needed.



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Not you. For people like me.

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I could have given you the injector 4whatever power level you wanted.


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700hp

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Twin Turbo 2013 Mustang GT Install

Id 1000's.
Or DW 95's
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And I I thought you said 600 b4.
The stock motor won't last at 700


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I am still aiming at 600. I was just throwing another number out there.

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Well if you plan on going with e85 or more than 620ish on 93 get the id1000's or the DW 95's.



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