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Old 04-27-2014, 02:03 PM   #1
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2015 Mustang: Leaning toward Ecoboost model...

From a practical consumer standpoint, I've been kicking around the idea of picking up a new Mustang in the 2.3L Ecoboost trim. Sure purists will hate it for not having that distinctive V8 growl, but many of the pros outweigh the cons.

Lighter engine and (theoretically) less curb weight:
Official numbers pending, the 2.3 engine should weigh less than the 5.0, giving the car better weight distribution.

Superior MPG with all the Mustang styling:
Considering the current 3.7 nets 19/29 compared the 5.0's 15/26, it's probably safe to say the 2.3 will get even better MPG. Additionally based on what we've seen 'base models' aren't the crap they used to be.

Aftermarket 'power packs':
Other Ecoboost models can net nearly 100hp for around $1000 with bolt-ons and a tune, putting the 2.3 into 5.0 power range, while still being more fuel efficient.

Ultimately for me it's gonna come down to if I can live without that V8 sound and torque. Thoughts?
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2015 Mustang: Leaning toward Ecoboost model...

It's all about what you want. I once bought a V6 car and loved the gas savings but as time went on I REALLY missed having that V8 and regretted it. I made sure my next car was a beast because that's what I wanted.

If you don't mind telling people you have a 4cyl Mustang, then go ahead. It's all about what you like. BUT... If I see a fart can on the rear... So help me... Lol
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As previously stated, you should get what you want whatever the reason. But it sounds like you're trying justify a 4 banger and get some reassurance here. If you want economy with some zip, then ecoboost is probably a good choice. But if you're really into V8 torque and sound, but just want a few more mpg, maybe you should bite the bullet and go 5.0. If you're in the turbo most of the time to overcome the 4 cylinders, then you wont save much on gas and will never get the sound.
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It's all about what you want. I once bought a V6 car and loved the gas savings but as time went on I REALLY missed having that V8 and regretted it. I made sure my next car was a beast because that's what I wanted.

If you don't mind telling people you have a 4cyl Mustang, then go ahead. It's all about what you like. BUT... If I see a fart can on the rear... So help me... Lol
Didn't the mustang II have a four cylinder.
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Several models had four cylinder, including a turbocharged model that is highly sought in some quarters. The new model has a lot going for it. For a road track model, the four has great potential.
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From a practical consumer standpoint, I've been kicking around the idea of picking up a new Mustang in the 2.3L Ecoboost trim. Sure purists will hate it for not having that distinctive V8 growl, but many of the pros outweigh the cons.

Lighter engine and (theoretically) less curb weight:
Official numbers pending, the 2.3 engine should weigh less than the 5.0, giving the car better weight distribution.

Superior MPG with all the Mustang styling:
Considering the current 3.7 nets 19/29 compared the 5.0's 15/26, it's probably safe to say the 2.3 will get even better MPG. Additionally based on what we've seen 'base models' aren't the crap they used to be.

Aftermarket 'power packs':
Other Ecoboost models can net nearly 100hp for around $1000 with bolt-ons and a tune, putting the 2.3 into 5.0 power range, while still being more fuel efficient.

Ultimately for me it's gonna come down to if I can live without that V8 sound and torque. Thoughts?
Personally, I would wait for about three years before buying the new car. Sure to be a lot of problems with the new model. Not to mention everyone wanting the new model, price could be harder to negotiate on.

Just my two cents. Good Luck...
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It's all about what you want. I once bought a V6 car and loved the gas savings but as time went on I REALLY missed having that V8 and regretted it. I made sure my next car was a beast because that's what I wanted.

If you don't mind telling people you have a 4cyl Mustang, then go ahead. It's all about what you like. BUT... If I see a fart can on the rear... So help me... Lol
Just curious but why would someone mind telling people they drive a turbo charged mustang that potentially is going to produce 310 HP, 300 torque , will out handle and potentially faster straight line than 2010 Gt and under models. There is nothing to be ashamed, with that bro so again why would someone mind telling people they have the 4 banger model?
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Just a few years ago, a 300+hp, 300+tq Mustang would have been the fastest non Shelby/SVT Mustang you could buy.

At what point did we become so jaded that a 300+hp/tq, 3400 lbs, rear wheel drive car that gets 35 MPG simply become not good enough?

Also keep in mind, the 2015 Mustang will be a global car. Once it gets into the hands of the Europeans, it will have a huge aftermarket following worldwide. I see the majority of the fastest 2015+ Mustangs being powered by 4 cylinders and huge turbos.

As for power delivery, I don't think you have ever been in a newer turbo car. Most make peak torque around 1800 - 3000 rpm, so it's actually more tourqey feeling than a V8. Also, with variable geometery turbos and variable valve timing, turbo lag is basically a thing of the past, unless you have a giant turbo.
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Just a few years ago, a 300+hp, 300+tq Mustang would have been the fastest non Shelby/SVT Mustang you could buy.

At what point did we become so jaded that a 300+hp/tq, 3400 lbs, rear wheel drive car that gets 35 MPG simply become not good enough?

Also keep in mind, the 2015 Mustang will be a global car. Once it gets into the hands of the Europeans, it will have a huge aftermarket following worldwide. I see the majority of the fastest 2015+ Mustangs being powered by 4 cylinders and huge turbos.

As for power delivery, I don't think you have ever been in a newer turbo car. Most make peak torque around 1800 - 3000 rpm, so it's actually more tourqey feeling than a V8. Also, with variable geometery turbos and variable valve timing, turbo lag is basically a thing of the past, unless you have a giant turbo.
Amen bro. Totally agree
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Didn't the mustang II have a four cylinder.
Sure, but it wasn't turbo'd, and did not come from the factory with 315 advertised HP either.

There's going to be some 3.7 and 5.0's very suprised with this 4 banger. Myself included.
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Sure, but it wasn't turbo'd, and did not come from the factory with 315 advertised HP either.

There's going to be some 3.7 and 5.0's very suprised with this 4 banger. Myself included.
I'm looking forward to seeing it ripping down the road. No shame in my game when the 4 banger tears my a$$ up and leaves me in the dust. Ha ha ha
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Nor mine. It just might make me consider it time to move up or down in displacement....or not, as my Mustang can get up to legal speed limit just fine.

But there's always going to be greener grass on the other side of the fence.

maybe, just maybe that Boss I've been drooling for...
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Nor mine. It just might make me consider it time to move up or down in displacement....or not, as my Mustang can get up to legal speed limit just fine.

But there's always going to be greener grass on the other side of the fence.

maybe, just maybe that Boss I've been drooling for...
Lmao. That Boss may get the best of you. lol
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^ glad im not the only seeing the Fusion resemblance. Im interested in how the turbo'd 4 will be as well
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I really think that if the headlights were like the 05-14, even with the grille, the re-design wouldn't be as badly recieved.

To me it still looks mostly like a modern new edge.

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The 2.3l may have the same peak numbers as 5.0 after $1k in mods, but its the under the curve numbers that matter.
And unless you go big turbo, the power will likely fall on its face after 4500 rpms where as the V8 will keep making power.

Most of my cars have been 4cyl turbo, I love them, but I do love me a nice V8

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I can tell you that the thing I like about my V6 is that I hardly have to press down on the gas with manual to make changes and transitions. There is no lag and it drives very nimbly as a result. While I can see the appeal of turbo 4s (like a Volvo 240 turbo - fun fun fun), in a heavy car like this, that lag will bite you every time. You'll have to hit the gas hard to get the turbo to spin up and then you're in the rear of the car in front of you and having to brake. It's a subtle thing, but go drive a WRX sometime to see what I mean. It just doesn't feel Muscle car to drive a turbo 4.

If you get a manual, the V6 is actually a better option as it will be far more driveable in every day traffic.
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v6 is the way to go. A lot of people are getting them new out the door for 18k and you can throw 5k at them with performance mods and they will beat any bolt on coyote out there.

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Id stay away from eco boost mustang for the first couple of years.
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2015 Mustang: Leaning toward Ecoboost model...

I briefly considered the Eco boost 15...left the dealer with a 14 5.0. The 4 banger mustang wasn't my cup of tea. Of course everyone has their opinion and this thread will go back and forth. The essence of a real mustang is a V8. I'm sure I'm going to get flamed for that but that's how I feel. And again... I entertained the idea of a 4 banger. That was my rational side of my brain...then once I was at the dealer and had my wife on board with me getting a new mustang, the part of my brain that said &$*# MPG and practical daily drivers kicked in. I'm sure they will produce decent power as advertised, but resale probably won't be as good. And a modded up Eco boost kinda defeats the purpose right!?
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I briefly considered the Eco boost 15...left the dealer with a 14 5.0. The 4 banger mustang wasn't my cup of tea. Of course everyone has their opinion and this thread will go back and forth. The essence of a real mustang is a V8. I'm sure I'm going to get flamed for that but that's how I feel. And again... I entertained the idea of a 4 banger. That was my rational side of my brain...then once I was at the dealer and had my wife on board with me getting a new mustang, the part of my brain that said &$*# MPG and practical daily drivers kicked in. I'm sure they will produce decent power as advertised, but resale probably won't be as good. And a modded up Eco boost kinda defeats the purpose right!?
You're certainly entitled to feel that the essence of a real mustang is a V8 only, then go buy a V8. A 3.7, 4.0 or 2.3 are just as much mustang as any 4.6 or 5.0. Slower some V6 and 4 banger models may be but just as much mustang as any V8 mustang.

The engine size doesn't make the mustang a mustang! Its the enthusiast behind the pony that makes the mustang a mustang. Go get your V8 bro but don't think for one minute the 2015 2.3 is less real a mustang than the 2015 5.0.
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^ no need to get all sad man. I did get a 5.0 like I said. I'm not bashing a non V8 mustang. Just said my opinion. I think you missed the part where I considered an Eco boost myself. I drove it, then drive a 5.0. They are not even the same car. That's all I'm saying.
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v6 is the way to go. A lot of people are getting them new out the door for 18k and you can throw 5k at them with performance mods and they will beat any bolt on coyote out there.

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Id stay away from eco boost mustang for the first couple of years.

I haven't heard of anyone buying a 15 v6 for 18 k out the door. We're people doing that with the v6s at the end of their production run? Sure, but that ship has sailed and the crazy rebates are no longer available.


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^ no need to get all sad man. I did get a 5.0 like I said. I'm not bashing a non V8 mustang. Just said my opinion. I think you missed the part where I considered an Eco boost myself. I drove it, then drive a 5.0. They are not even the same car. That's all I'm saying.
Oh bro, you must be confused. I'm not sad man. If you kicked me in the balls, then I would be sad. If you killed my family, I would be sad. When they canceled Bay Watch, I was sad. You thinking that the only real mustang is a V8, doesn't make me sad.

I caught what you were saying. You said you had considered a 4 banger. Then you said the essence of a REAL mustang is a V8. That's cool bro.
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^ not trying to pick a fight... Maybe I will see you at the AM show in the summer
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^ not trying to pick a fight... Maybe I will see you at the AM show in the summer
No fight bro. All good. I'll be there at the show. I'll be parked in the not real mustang parking lot. Ha ha ha ha! JK!
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Oh bro, you must be confused. I'm not sad man. If you kicked me in the balls, then I would be sad. If you killed my family, I would be sad. When they canceled Bay Watch, I was sad. You thinking that the only real mustang is a V8, doesn't make me sad.

I caught what you were saying. You said you had considered a 4 banger. Then you said the essence of a REAL mustang is a V8. That's cool bro.
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After driving a Ecoboost for 3 days I'm glad I went back and got the GT ..I'm sorry but the sound of the 4 banger and the vibration feeling from the 4 just wasn't my cup of tea .. Gas mileage is not a big problem for me , after all it's a muscle car , muscle cars use more fuel ..
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Decided to buy a new Mustang. Never owned a sports car so it was now or never. Like you , thinking gas mileage/economy stuff tried out a 4 cyl echo boost. Rode great. Price not to bad. Had lots of bells and whistles. So told dealer I would call him back. That night surfing the web we found a 50yr anniversary model GT. The next day we drove over to the dealer for a look. Sitting in the drivers seat the sales guy says start it up. So pushed the start button and it was all history from there. No way we were going to buy a 4 banger. Here's the picture of it in the showroom. Click image for larger version

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This is it. 2015 Ruby Red/Convertible GT 50th year anniversary package. Can't imagine this is sitting in our garage waiting for better weather to come. WOW


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The 50th anniversary convertible is the wiser choice. GT 5.0's hold their resale a lot better plus they only made 1964 50th anniversary editions which makes it even better.


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The 50th anniversary convertible is the wiser choice. GT 5.0's hold their resale a lot better plus they only made 1964 50th anniversary editions which makes it even better.


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There is a difference between the 50th anniversary appearance package and the 50th anniversary edition Mustang. The appearance package can be added to any GT while the 50th anniversary edition is a limited production car.

And to say the GTs hold resale value isn't true. If you prefer a GT that is fine but they resell for more because the msrp was higher. If you factor depreciation as a percent of original msrp it would be pretty close. Although maybe not on performance sites like this but in the real world both cars have a large separate market of buyers that like the cars


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There is a difference between the 50th anniversary appearance package and the 50th anniversary edition Mustang. The appearance package can be added to any GT while the 50th anniversary edition is a limited production car.

And to say the GTs hold resale value isn't true. If you prefer a GT that is fine but they resell for more because the msrp was higher. If you factor depreciation as a percent of original msrp it would be pretty close. Although maybe not on performance sites like this but in the real world both cars have a large separate market of buyers that like the cars


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Ehh I disagree with the resale thing. Yes they are more expensive so for the first 5-8 years this might be true. But once these are older than 10 years old no one is really going to be seeking out a car that they can use to commute in. So those v6 and 4cyl models become less desirable directly effecting the value. There's always going to be a guy who wants a gt. No matter how many miles are in it, how old it is. I dunno that's just my .02 maybe I'm wrong.
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