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Old 06-25-2014, 04:11 PM   #36
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Lincoln does not need to sell volume for a sports car. All they need is to break even. They need to sell a car that people drool over and sets new standards. Get the public interested in the Lincoln brand, and then trot out a sedan that is not a four door copy of their sports car, but a new design that reflects the best of both demands. That would be the money maker. Lincoln has to go back to its roots when it had a performance reputation.
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Most of the high end sports cars do not break even. LFA, Veyron, XL1, so on. Lamborghini and Ferrari who may be charging millions of dollars for a certain model- sure.

1. What kind of performance car do you expect from Lincoln?
2. What would be impressive?
Mid engine? 500+ NA HP?
(Note for the LFA to be worth while, they took ~8 years. And they spent most of that time in F1. What's Fords pedigree there?)
3. What would be a fair price?
4. Who would really pay that price?

Turning Lincoln into Zonda, and making it profitable seems a lot more difficult than turning a Mustang into a G37.

(Though I agree Lincoln needs to get back on track with the rear wheel drive line. Other than the Navigator, everything is front wheel drive- between that and only automatics, it's understandable why they've lost their performance appeal.)

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Most of the high end sports cars do not break even. LFA, Veyron, XL1, so on. Lamborghini and Ferrari who may be charging millions of dollars for a certain model- sure.

1. What kind of performance car do you expect from Lincoln?
2. What would be impressive?
Mid engine? 500+ NA HP?
(Note for the LFA to be worth while, they took ~8 years. And they spent most of that time in F1. What's Fords pedigree there?)
3. What would be a fair price?
4. Who would really pay that price?

Turning Lincoln into Zonda, and making it profitable seems a lot more difficult than turning a Mustang into a G37.

(Though I agree Lincoln needs to get back on track with the rear wheel drive line. Other than the Navigator, everything is front wheel drive- between that and only automatics, it's understandable why they've lost their performance appeal.)
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Old 06-25-2014, 10:41 PM   #38
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Lincoln doesn't need a super-car.

What Lincoln and Ford need are a few RWD platforms to build great cars on.

I think the S550 stretched a few inches would be the perfect platform for a 2 door Lincoln coupe successor to the Mark 7 and 8. Give it all the fancy electronics and upscale interior options, have a lightly tweaked ecoboost v6 (400 - 430 hp and 450+ tq) as the base engine and a detuned version of the Trinity 5.8 (think GM's LS9 - ZR1 Vette and LSA - CTS-V and ZL1 Camaro) or a coyotified 6.2L as the "sporty" optional engine (something around 525 -580 hp and 470 tq+). Give owners the option of either a manual transmission or a solid automatic. Throw on some nice adjustable suspension on the high end version (comfort, sport, etc) that actually works. Price the base model just under the CTS coupe and the sport version just under the CTS-V, give it classic Lincoln styling and Ford will likely have a winner.

Then bring out a successor to the Lincoln LS. That could be easily built off the Australian Ford Falcon platform. Give it similar options and specs as the Mark X, again, another winner. Ford could also replace the Taurus with this platform and compete with the Dodge Charger / Chrysler 300, Chevy SS, BMW 3/5 series. Maybe a stretched version of this could be the next Town Car.

Then bring out a replacement for the Navigator, even the new 2015 model isn't up to what the previous generation Escalade was. Or just keep on keeping on as the Navigator may not sell well but it is a huge profit machine for Ford.


Or just scrap Lincoln all together..
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Uh...no....not sure what market you think Lincoln could compete with here...the T-Bird was a brain fart and didn't sell because it was too expensive and too retro--in other words, overpriced and ugly as hell...the GT was intended to be the halo car that it is and prove to the world that Ford--if it wanted to--could compete with much more exotic offerings than it's domestic competitors...no magazine...no car show...no publication worth it's beans will say that a Vette and/or Viper from the same era offers the driving experience the GT did...not to mention the timeless design and quality compared to the others...the GT had soul and a pedigree behind it...the Vette is like Tupperware and Viper (and I love the Viper) is like wannabe exotic...what Lincoln needs is a 2 door/2 seater luxury sports coupe and 4 door luxury sports sedan based on the S550 platform...offer a 4cylinder eco boost with 350hp; 8 speed auto with paddles along with a high performance V8 version using a twin t-chargers and 500hp...an exotic offering badged as a Lincoln is not a good idea--leave that model...and they are working on a successor to the GT--to the Ford brand...both will increase traffic into Ford and Lincoln showrooms...


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Ahem...click on link...per the post above, yes, they are working on a successor...(hopefully link works)...


Ford To Make Le Mans Return With New GT Supercar?
2010 FIA GT1 Matech Competition Ford GTEnlarge PhotoA couple of years ago there was a lot of talk about Ford launching ...



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Let's try this again...

I found this story in the Motor Authority iPhone app:

Ford To Make Le Mans Return With New GT Supercar?
2010 FIA GT1 Matech Competition Ford GTEnlarge PhotoA couple of years ago there was a lot of talk about Ford launching ...

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Ahem...click on link...per the post above, yes, they are working on a successor...(hopefully link works)...


Ford To Make Le Mans Return With New GT Supercar?
2010 FIA GT1 Matech Competition Ford GTEnlarge PhotoA couple of years ago there was a lot of talk about Ford launching ...
I think this is what you were trying to link to: Ford To Make Le Mans Return With New GT Supercar?
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I think this is what you were trying to link to: Ford To Make Le Mans Return With New GT Supercar?

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