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Old 07-27-2014, 12:09 PM   #1
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1k-Oil Changes

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My 14-gt is about to reach 1k and I understand that the recommendation is to do a oil changes, my question is Should I bring the car to the dealer for the work and should I tell them what oil to use or they will know which one is the better oil to be use…. or should I take it to a reputable shop that specialized on Mustang to do the oil changes…I am in new york and some people here in the forum recommend Mustang Magic | The Difference Is Magic here in LI….

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you really don't need to do this on a modern engine...But if it makes you feel better, have the dealer do the first one just for the sake of the record you actually did one. Lots of people never change the oil on a car and you should have it on record you aren't one of those people, in case you have problems.
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are you looking to get full synthetic oil put in your car? if thats the case then you will have to request that with the dealership because they put in regular oil in by default.
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you really don't need to do this on a modern engine...But if it makes you feel better, have the dealer do the first one just for the sake of the record you actually did one. Lots of people never change the oil on a car and you should have it on record you aren't one of those people, in case you have problems.
Lol if I didn't take what you said ("Lots of people never change the oil on a car and you should have it on record you aren't one of those people, in case you have problems") in context of only referring to the 1000mile oil change I would be like NEVER? Lol
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The dealership puts in factory Motorcraft synthetic blend for your oil change and weather it is a recommendation or not I personally follow the owners manual and it says as a recommendation to change the oil at 1000 miles which I did and now have 1400 miles on it probably will hit 3k by January 2015, then it will get changed again. But again following a recommendation becomes a personal choice. I had a friend one day recommend that I go skydiving it was my personal choice not too LOL.
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Show me where it says in the om to change oil at 1000 miles.
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My owners manual said to change at 5k, 7.5k, OR 10k depending on driving style.
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From the Manual.....
Scheduled Maintenance 319 Protecting Your Investment
Maintenance is an investment that will pay dividends in the form of improved reliability, durability and resale value. To maintain the proper performance of your vehicle and its emission control systems, it is imperative that scheduled maintenance be completed at the designated intervals.
Your vehicle is equipped with the Intelligent Oil Life Monitor® (IOLM) system which displays a message in the information display at the proper oil change service interval; this interval may be up to one year or
10000 miles (16000 kilometers). When ENGINE OIL CHANGE DUE or OIL CHANGE REQUIRED appears in the information display, it’s time
for an oil change; the oil change must be done within two weeks or 500 miles (800 kilometers) of the ENGINE OIL CHANGE DUE or OIL CHANGE REQUIRED message appearing. The Intelligent Oil Life Monitor® must be reset after each oil change; see the Instrument Cluster chapter.
If your message center is prematurely reset or becomes inoperative, you should perform the oil change interval at six months or 5000 miles (8000 kilometers) from your last oil change. Never exceed one year or 10000 miles (16000 kilometers) between oil change intervals.
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Show me where it says in the om to change oil at 1000 miles.
It doesn't.
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From the Manual.....
Scheduled Maintenance 319 Protecting Your Investment
Maintenance is an investment that will pay dividends in the form of improved reliability, durability and resale value. To maintain the proper performance of your vehicle and its emission control systems, it is imperative that scheduled maintenance be completed at the designated intervals.
Your vehicle is equipped with the Intelligent Oil Life Monitor® (IOLM) system which displays a message in the information display at the proper oil change service interval; this interval may be up to one year or
10000 miles (16000 kilometers). When ENGINE OIL CHANGE DUE or OIL CHANGE REQUIRED appears in the information display, it’s time
for an oil change; the oil change must be done within two weeks or 500 miles (800 kilometers) of the ENGINE OIL CHANGE DUE or OIL CHANGE REQUIRED message appearing. The Intelligent Oil Life Monitor® must be reset after each oil change; see the Instrument Cluster chapter.
If your message center is prematurely reset or becomes inoperative, you should perform the oil change interval at six months or 5000 miles (8000 kilometers) from your last oil change. Never exceed one year or 10000 miles (16000 kilometers) between oil change intervals.
That's 10,000 miles
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Use any blend motor oil that meets Fords spec and follow the OLM with a Motorcraft filter, simple as falling off a log. No need to over think 8 quarts of good oil...
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Show me where it says in the om to change oil at 1000 miles.
No where in the owners manual does it say that bud. The reason behind changing the oil for your first time under 2500 miles is to remove any metal shavings. Someone doesn't have too but its a good idea for the first oil change to due under 2,500 miles. After that depending on how their vehicle is being used change at regular intervals.

I personally change my oil and filter every 7,500 miles and use a base III synthetic oil. For how I drive my car and how hard its driven, my engine will be protected. People can change their oil and filter every 700 miles if they want to. There money and time.

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Correct, that was my point, the manual stays 10k but here in the forum many members stays 1k and I want to make sure that 10k is standard not 1k.....btw thanks every one for your input on the matter....
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^^^^ He said "matter" and not "issue". Bravo!

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Correct, that was my point, the manual stays 10k but here in the forum many members stays 1k and I want to make sure that 10k is standard not 1k.....btw thanks every one for your input on the matter....
Manual does say 10k oil intervals and I believe that's based on using the Motorcraft 50/50 blend. Personally, thats a bit too long for my style but different strokes for different folks. Lol.

To me the biggest issue with 10k oil changes is the oil filter. Unless one buys an extended oil filter that is designed to last up to 15k miles, I would stay away from 10K mile oil changes. If one uses a base III synthetic oil along with an extended oil filter, 10K mile oil intervals should be perfectly fine. This of course depends on how one drives the car and the conditions its operated in.

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I change mine every 200 feet.


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You really should think about changing more often, that's a huge gap in intervals.

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Lmao. Ba ha ha ha ha

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Yeah I usually run about 7500 between changes and that's because I feel funny waiting any longer. The oil sensor still shows the oil at decent levels at 7500 but I still go get it done.
The 8 qt pan really helps in lasting longer than previous models. Of course the synthetic helps too.
When I got mine I had 7 miles on it. I read up on all the maintenance required and did my first change at 7500. I'm almost at 30k now and I'm still running like a champ.
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My 14-gt is about to reach 1k and I understand that the recommendation is to do a oil changes, my question is Should I bring the car to the dealer for the work and should I tell them what oil to use or they will know which one is the better oil to be use…. or should I take it to a reputable shop that specialized on Mustang to do the oil changes…I am in new york and some people here in the forum recommend Mustang Magic | The Difference Is Magic here in LI….

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I did my first oil change at 2300 miles.

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I did my first oil change at 2300 miles.
You have a six banger with a smaller oil pan. Not exactly the same thing.
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You have a six banger with a smaller oil pan. Not exactly the same thing.
Got ya. So do you go less mileage on a 5.0 for a first oil change

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Old school enough to do the 1st one at 1k, 2nd one at 4k then time based (low mileage toy) every 9 months. I know it ain't reccomended but I like doing the 1st one early.
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Got ya. So do you go less mileage on a 5.0 for a first oil change
I would with the larger oil capacity.

Early oil changes are a thing of the past especially since these motors are run before installed.
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its a brand new motor, lots of items wearing in and shearing, I would certainly ditch the factory fill after 1000 miles. Have any of you ever had a built motor before? Oil changes every 200-250 miles for 1200 miles, and see all the crap that comes out, you'd be shocked.
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A freshly built motor needs to have the oil change after it's first run in. These motors were run at the factory before being dropped in.
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My motor had shavings every 200 miles for 1200 like I said earlier, whether they ran it or not, it certainly couldn't hurt.
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its a brand new motor, lots of items wearing in and shearing, I would certainly ditch the factory fill after 1000 miles. Have any of you ever had a built motor before? Oil changes every 200-250 miles for 1200 miles, and see all the crap that comes out, you'd be shocked.
Unless you are dumping some needed breakin oil that is critical to proper breakin....just sayin. Any crap flushed out of the motor until the first change will be held in the bottom of the pan or in the oil filter as designed...no worries, just follow the manual by the engineers that designed the motor..
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lol They're also the ones who "recommend" a bull**** one-size-fits-all oil to begin with. Done with this conversation.
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I've always used synthetic blend and it's been fine for me. I don't drive much, short commute. I change my oil every 6 months or 5000 miles, whatever comes first. Change your oil more frequently is cheap insurance against a major repair.
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I change mine every 200 feet.


Once you go black.... You wash/detail everyday.
This by far, has to be the best oil change response I have heard in some time! Thanks for the laugh!
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One thing to be aware of is that cars that are run on a few demos but end up sitting on a dealer lot for a long time (for instance, a new 2014 bought now) tend to get a lot of acid buildup and some sludge, since the oil is in some cases, over a year old, just sitting there. It's always a good idea to change your oil fairly quickly after you buy it.

I changed my oil at a bit over 1K. It wasn't terrible, but you could feel some very fine chalk like metal grit in it. (the magnet had quite a bit on it as well) My next oil change at 3K had almost none. I change it every 4K-4.5K miles now since it's semi-synthetic. Synthetic can safely go about 6K or so in heavy driving/commuting.

One thing to note is that oil life left is quite literally oil life left, with a safety margin built in (usually 25-50%). If it's at 0%, it's not going to fail, but it is dramatically increasing engine wear due to the dirt in it.

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Cadillac designed their CTS in Germany originally. The oil life sensor was calibrated in typical German fashion to be 100% accurate. That is, when it was at 0%, it really *was* at 0% and you "oil" was basically slippery water. (after all, normal people change their oil when the protection level drops too low, right?)

After many engine failures, they changed the sensor to where 50% was the new 0. Still, even 50% as effective is pretty sketchy if you rev your car hard.
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One thing to be aware of is that cars that are run on a few demos but end up sitting on a dealer lot for a long time (for instance, a new 2014 bought now) tend to get a lot of acid buildup and some sludge, since the oil is in some cases, over a year old, just sitting there. It's always a good idea to change your oil fairly quickly after you buy it.

I changed my oil at a bit over 1K. It wasn't terrible, but you could feel some very fine chalk like metal grit in it. (the magnet had quite a bit on it as well) My next oil change at 3K had almost none. I change it every 4K-4.5K miles now since it's semi-synthetic. Synthetic can safely go about 6K or so in heavy driving/commuting.

One thing to note is that oil life left is quite literally oil life left, with a safety margin built in (usually 25-50%). If it's at 0%, it's not going to fail, but it is dramatically increasing engine wear due to the dirt in it.

*interesting side note*
Cadillac designed their CTS in Germany originally. The oil life sensor was calibrated in typical German fashion to be 100% accurate. That is, when it was at 0%, it really *was* at 0% and you "oil" was basically slippery water. (after all, normal people change their oil when the protection level drops too low, right?)

After many engine failures, they changed the sensor to where 50% was the new 0. Still, even 50% as effective is pretty sketchy if you rev your car hard.
Oil "sludging" was true in the days of "dyno" oil, but not todays semi or full synthetics. Even if they sit for long periods, they will not sludge; another reason for manufacturers to use them when built.
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Ford's semi-synthetic isn't exactly Mobil 1, though. I'd still not take a car that's been sitting for a year and then drive it for another 6-12 months before changing the oil for the first time.
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