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Old 07-29-2015, 01:43 PM   #1
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So right now I have just a Bama 93 race tune on my 2015 6 speed GT. I like it and I can definitely feel the difference. So here's my question. I am hearing mixed opinions on whether a CAI goves you gains with a tune over the stock air box. Some people are saying the stock air box is good and unless doing FBO, then a CAI osnt worth it. Others are saying different. So will adding a CAI in conjunction with my Bama tune make a difference, or is it basically a wasted 350 dollars?

Also if I decide to buy a CAI I think I will go with Airaid. I
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If you already have the tune I would drop the on something else.
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If i were in your shoes i would use that $350 to ordering new gears over CAI...anyday of the week

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Skip the CAI. It's a waste.
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I'd get a short throw or invest in some exhaust, over a CAI.


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Thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I already have a car back exhaust, so the exhaust mod is done. I think upgrading my gears might be next on the list. I'm actually not sure what gears I currently have. Is there a way to check?
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Should be a tag on the diff. Or I'm sure there is a code for it in the door jam. If it is performance pack I believe it is the 3.73, so I wouldn't change those personally.
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Thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I already have a car back exhaust, so the exhaust mod is done. I think upgrading my gears might be next on the list. I'm actually not sure what gears I currently have. Is there a way to check?

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I got my BAMA tune and JLT and am very happy with both. I wanted to get rid of the piped in fake engine noise that Ford put on the car. With the JLT I was able to do that. I removed the ford sound symposer. It cleaned up the engine bay on the driver side a lot also. Now the engine noise is from under the hood and sounds better. Plus I probably picked up a few ponies over the stock box. Not much, but it sounds way better. That's just my opinion since I have already made the change.


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What CAI is the best for hp??? Will it void my warranty? If I take my car to space, will the tune need tune adjusted for he altitude? What if space doesn't have 93 octane? Will rocket fuel suffice???


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What CAI is the best for hp??? Will it void my warranty? If I take my car to space, will the tune need tune adjusted for he altitude? What if space doesn't have 93 octane? Will rocket fuel suffice???


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You just waited a minute of your time to write that? And sorry but it's completely out of context as none of your remarks are questions I asked. I'm sure you can find some other threads though that could use your feedback.
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You just waited a minute of your time to write that? And sorry but it's completely out of context as none of your remarks are questions I asked. I'm sure you can find some other threads though that could use your feedback.

I wasn't mocking you. It was the first cai thread I saw.


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And to answer your original question...

A cai intake isn't going to make a difference. Actually...the tune probably doesn't make a difference as well. They probably adjusted the throttle response to make it feel faster, but there was a guy who did dyno pulls before and after the bama tune and got an 8 hp gain. Bama did several revisions and it produced the same results.


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And to answer your original question...

A cai intake isn't going to make a difference. Actually...the tune probably doesn't make a difference as well. They probably adjusted the throttle response to make it feel faster, but there was a guy who did dyno pulls before and after the bama tune and got an 8 hp gain. Bama did several revisions and it produced the same results.


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Oh wow. When they tested it in their American muscle video they got like 22 or something. I know there's a ton of people running their tunes in their 5.0's (11 and up mustangs) so of their tunes really weren't doing anything wouldn't there be a ton of people complaining about that?
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Oh wow. When they tested it in their American muscle video they got like 22 or something. I know there's a ton of people running their tunes in their 5.0's (11 and up mustangs) so of their tunes really weren't doing anything wouldn't there be a ton of people complaining about that?

11-14 is different. There were changes to the timing table ect... for the 15. American Muscle runs everything on their own dyno and we really have no clue wether they are corrected or not and what the variables were. They probably made 15 revisions before they got that number and that tune was a dyno tune specific for that car. It's not a boxed tune that you get in an email.

As far as the tune doing something. It's easy to crank up the throttle response to make the tune seem powerful, but on a dyno, it's probably not. Like I said, 11-14 was different. And most people posting gains of 20-30 hp were also doing it with a o/r mid pipe. I haven't seen a lot of back to back dyno numbers after adding a tune only. I'm no tuning master, but I tend to believe customers that have no stake in the game over the vendors selling the product.

Don't get me wrong. Most HP claims from companies are not very accurate with lower price bolt on stuff. So AM isn't doing anything out of the norm. It seems like the cheaper the item is, the more inflated the HP gain becomes.


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11-14 is different. There were changes to the timing table ect... for the 15. American Muscle runs everything on their own dyno and we really have no clue wether they are corrected or not and what the variables were. They probably made 15 revisions before they got that number and that tune was a dyno tune specific for that car. It's not a boxed tune that you get in an email.

As far as the tune doing something. It's easy to crank up the throttle response to make the tune seem powerful, but on a dyno, it's probably not. Like I said, 11-14 was different. And most people posting gains of 20-30 hp were also doing it with a o/r mid pipe. I haven't seen a lot of back to back dyno numbers after adding a tune only. I'm no tuning master, but I tend to believe customers that have no stake in the game over the vendors selling the product.

Don't get me wrong. Most HP claims from companies are not very accurate with lower price bolt on stuff. So AM isn't doing anything out of the norm. It seems like the cheaper the item is, the more inflated the HP gain becomes.


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I had just figured that as reputable at Bama is that they would deliver as they advertised. I must say that from the 93 race tune alone that I do feel a difference. Also like many have said in the past, it's not the leak gain that's the most important, but it's power thoughout the curve and throttle response. I like my Bama tune whether I am getting that "23" hp or not. is there a place (maybe Bama's site) where we can look at customers base and then bama tuned dump graphs?
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The "street" "race" "performance" tunes are a joke in the first place. It's a marketing gemick.
Only way for one tune to be more aggressive then the next is to mess with the timing and this had to be done through data loging. Or on a dyno.

Is amazing how people get pulled into this crap

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The "street" "race" "performance" tunes are a joke in the first place. It's a marketing gemick.
Only way for one tune to be more aggressive then the next is to mess with the timing and this had to be done through data loging. Or on a dyno.

Is amazing how people get pulled into this crap

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Honestly, we just need to see before and after graphs of multiple cars from non biased parties to determine what the real gains are from these tunes.
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Honestly, we just need to see before and after graphs of multiple cars from non biased parties to determine what the real gains are from these tunes.
screw graphs. That won't mean ****. Different areas, different cars, different dyno different climates.
Can't compare that

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The "street" "race" "performance" tunes are a joke in the first place. It's a marketing gemick.
Only way for one tune to be more aggressive then the next is to mess with the timing and this had to be done through data loging. Or on a dyno.

Is amazing how people get pulled into this crap

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So then what really is the difference between street, performance and race?
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So then what really is the difference between street, performance and race?
Marketing hype.

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Marketing hype.

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So what your saying a tune isn't worth it over stock its just hype?

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So what your saying a tune isn't worth it over stock its just hype?

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No the marketing hype is between the street,race,performance type tunes.
The only way for a steer vs race tune is with more aggressive timing. Which needs to be done through data log or a dyno tune.

That's why lund,aed,vmp offer a tune for said octane level.
Then it becomes more aggressive as you do data loging.

Explained as best as I could through "txtn" or whatever you want to call it.

Stuff like this is a lot easier to explain in person.

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I know the canned tunes are basically all the same and dyno and data logging dials it in I'm just messing with you lol

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Well since we're on the subject of cai, bama and 30hp. I might as well ask these questions here because we've got all of the brains in one room.

Doesn't a throttle body spacer net like 30hp?

What weight savings will I get with t tops?

Can I take my doors off like a jeep to save weight?

Where can I get a ram air scoop?

Red or black caliper covers?

What exhaust will make my v6 sound like a v8?

What's the cheapest way to lower my car?

Will a 325-30-19 fit on the stock brembo rims?

What supercharger gives the best mpg?

Is a track pack car a special edition?

Can I plasti dip my face?

Automatic or stick?

Is a 300 shot fine with stock internals?

I'm going twin turbo tomorrow. What throttle body spacer will work well with the on3 kit?

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Oh and... When is injen coming out with a mustang cai?


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So what your saying a tune isn't worth it over stock its just hype?

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That's not what Rap said. Rap made mention about the street, performance, race tune and is saying calling it those names is marketing hype.



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Well since we're on the subject of cai, bama and 30hp. I might as well ask these questions here because we've got all of the brains in one room.

Doesn't a throttle body spacer net like 30hp?

What weight savings will I get with t tops?

Can I take my doors off like a jeep to save weight?

Where can I get a ram air scoop?

Red or black caliper covers?

What exhaust will make my v6 sound like a v8?

What's the cheapest way to lower my car?

Will a 325-30-19 fit on the stock brembo rims?

What supercharger gives the best mpg?

Is a track pack car a special edition?

Can I plasti dip my face?

Automatic or stick?

Is a 300 shot fine with stock internals?

I'm going twin turbo tomorrow. What throttle body spacer will work well with the on3 kit?

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Can I plasti dip my face is the best yet. That's freaking hilarious man. Omg, ba ha ha ha😀😀😀😀😀😀

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So right now I have just a Bama 93 race tune on my 2015 6 speed GT. I like it and I can definitely feel the difference. So here's my question. I am hearing mixed opinions on whether a CAI goves you gains with a tune over the stock air box. Some people are saying the stock air box is good and unless doing FBO, then a CAI osnt worth it. Others are saying different. So will adding a CAI in conjunction with my Bama tune make a difference, or is it basically a wasted 350 dollars?

Also if I decide to buy a CAI I think I will go with Airaid. I
I have an Airraid CAI on my pony and am very pleased with it. I am pleased that it makes my engine bay look more eye pleasing for car shows, eye candy. I love the way my CAI sounds when WOT.

Did I get increased rwhp from the CAI? I have no evidence of such findings. Based on the very knowledgeable members on here such as Rapinator and Grabber 5.0 and several others, I am now confident I didn't get squat for rwhp gains. Clearly, I was wrong.

If Rap and Grabber 5.0 are saying CAI's don't do crap for power, then their answer is gospel in my book. With that said, I have no regrets buying my CAI because I love how its sounds and looks.

I'll admit that when I first bought my CAI 4 years ago I did think i was going to gain some rwhp.

Grabber 5.0 and Rap won't steer you wrong. Those guys are out there at the tracks and know what's what. Grabber 5.0 may want to ring my neck 99% of the time with my 3.7 comments but he knows his stuff along with several others on here. 😉

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So then what really is the difference between street, performance and race?
Throttle sensativity is turned up on the race tune. Nothing more.
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How much timing you can run will determine how much power you make. All else is just throttle response. Lund, VMP, or AED...and run logs. Next...
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