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Old 01-02-2016, 04:34 PM   #36
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I say there is a place for both, It all depends on what the car owner likes and that should be the end. Neither one is any better then the other on a street car.

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That's what I usually try to say but ppl still get super defensive about their stick shifts. I think there is/was a culture of "stick shift is man box" or something and when someone challenges that with even "the new autos are just as good and in some cases better depending on what you are doing" its like I called their mom a whore. I dunno.

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Everything I hear says they are good but you'll still lose time off your 1/4 not letting the computer shift. Paddles will be good for the road course/autox but that's still going to be ruled by the manuals with a skilled driver. Seems to me more like something that's there just to have fun with on the street which is totally cool.
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Seems to me more like something that's there just to have fun with on the street which is totally cool.
To me, using the paddles to hold gears and to shift only when you want it to, makes it better and quicker shifting that any manual I ever used.
I don't see the difference between paddles that hold gears, and having to use a clutch to change gears in the "fun factor."
I've had plenty of manual transmissions through the years:

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1970 Torino Type N/W in Pacific GREEN.......351 Cleveland and Hurst 4 speed
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I'd only be happy with owning the auto if it was going to the drag strip a lot. I went from a 14 auto to a 16 manual and I'm so much happier with the manual. The auto was fun and all but not as engaging. Just my thoughts.
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Like we've been saying to each their own personal opinion. My opinion is if an auto isn't fun its too slow. But that's just my opinion. I just get a little agitated when the internets racers come in and start spouting off about how much the autos suck lol.
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It is purely personal preference at this point either one has its perks. I have had 3 autos since 2013 and after a tune, car for car I won't lose a straight line battle to a manual. The best thing about the 2015 is that it has paddle shifters, sport modes, and is very very fast when hitting the paddles. It will hold a gear until you slam it into the next one and you get a boost when you do. I've run nitrous which I loved in the automatic and am working on my forced induction now which I can't wait to see how well it does. It is true however, the manuals can not handle as much power as the autos. Food for thought if you wana make big power.
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The auto to me is every bit as fun as the manual especially with the paddle shifters. It gives you the best of both worlds. Plus the autos aren't giving anyone issues whiles the manuals continue to.
Grabber has it right the paddle shift feature is the equalizer. You have control over the shifting if you use them. There is no drawback of the trans over thinking or under thinking a situation you make the call on which gear to be in and when. You just don't have a clutch to activate.
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The $3500 bill to fix it when it dies and the almost $1500 cost for the automatic are also more practical concerns in my book.
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The $3500 bill to fix it when it dies and the almost $1500 cost for the automatic are also more practical concerns in my book.
You could say the same thing about the MT82. And you don't have to buy a $500 shifter and then install a braided clutch line and do a spring delete to make the MT82 actually shift like its supposed to if you get the auto.
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2015 GT automatic or manual?

Paddle shifting doesn't feel the same to me and the manuals feel livelier. Also it's easier to sell a manual coupe around me then an automatic. That said if I was daily driving in traffic or didn't feel comfortable with a manual I would get the auto. If it is a weekend pleasure car I would get the manual. It gets old driving a manual in traffic every day.


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Eh... as far as re-sell, if you are buying a car to mod and worrying about re-selling it you are in the wrong hobby. Also, the word is out on the 6R80 and has been for a long time. 2011+ the autos are much MUCH more desirable than autos previously.


Like I keep saying, go drive in a fast automatic with a converter and THEN have a valid opinion of auto vs stick. Until then...
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I put a 3,200 rpm stall converter in our 2008 Corvette. With that one change, it felt off the line like I'd added 150 HP...........if you want to launch well and truly enjoy it, with no worries, a stall converter is THE way to go.
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