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Old 09-20-2016, 11:16 AM   #1
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Does putting the transmission in Sport mode change the traction control?

I put the trans into "S" mode last night before taking a gradual corner (just a little sharper than an S curve) aggressively in second gear. When I hit the throttle, the car snapped sideways more and more quickly than I have ever seen it do before.
I was able to counter steer and back out of the throttle, but the car surprised me when it did this. I really felt like if I'd stayed in the throttle the car would have swapped ends.....
I have turned off the traction control before and seen how easily it spins the tires, but did not touch the traction control toggle this time other than having the trans in "S".
As stated in the title --- does the "S" trans setting remap the traction control?
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I believe S on Auto just means you can manually shift up and down with the buttons on the side of the shifter. I dont think it changes anything else. Dont quote me though going off girlfriends I have a manual
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Was it damp outside Guard? I ask because that has happened to me also a couple of times when it was damp or wet when using S mode. Waiting for more replies.
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It's my understanding that Sport mode allows more YAW prior to engaging traction control, hence the reason you're losing the back end easier. Track mode allows even more.


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I believe S on Auto just means you can manually shift up and down with the buttons on the side of the shifter. I dont think it changes anything else. Dont quote me though going off girlfriends I have a manual
This is the 2015 section, what you are talking about is select shift on the 13-14.
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This is the 2015 section, what you are talking about is select shift on the 13-14.
Sorry bout that mt bad

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Was it damp outside Guard? I ask because that has happened to me also a couple of times when it was damp or wet when using S mode. Waiting for more replies.
Not damp --- but the temps were in the lower 50's. I have the standard 18" Pirellis so if they get this slick (like super high performance tires are known to do) when cold, that would surprise me...............
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It's my understanding that Sport mode allows more YAW prior to engaging traction control, hence the reason you're losing the back end easier. Track mode allows even more.
Yes, I know that the various options in the dash for suspension adjustment operate that way --- but I am wondering if moving ONLY the transmission selector into the "S" setting does the same thing.
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Yes, I know that the various options in the dash for suspension adjustment operate that way --- but I am wondering if moving ONLY the transmission selector into the "S" setting does the same thing.
Were you stopped when you put it in Sport mode? I am thinking maybe if not it suddenly went into it. BTW they make an after market paddle shifter kit for that.

little blurb from Ford on that; https://owner.ford.com/how-tos/vehic...nsmission.html
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S-197 / 2013-2014 - S mode makes the transmission shift more aggressively hold gears longer, which in turn gives you more power to break the wheels loose. I do not believe it affects the Traction control at all. I drove my 2014 almost exclusively in S mode for the more responsiveness, but never bothered with the +- for manually changing gears.
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Were you stopped when you put it in Sport mode? I am thinking maybe if not it suddenly went into it. BTW they make an after market paddle shifter kit for that.
I was moving when I put it into "S" mode......and our cars come with paddle shifters......didn't touch those.
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Here's what Ford Says

Sport (S)
Putting your vehicle in sport (S):
• Provides additional engine braking and extends lower gear operation to enhance performance for uphill climbs, hilly terrain or mountainous areas. This will increase engine RPM during engine braking.
• Provides additional lower gear operation through the automatic transmission shift strategy.
• Provides gear selection more quickly and at higher engine speeds.

Nothing in there about turning off electronic safety systems.

So it seems you were Hooning and didn't know it.
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I have been trying to compare the transmission setting in "D" to "S" on the same corner, in the same gear at the same speed.
The corner is a very tricky one that is both off camber (slanted the wrong way) and slightly peaked at the apex, so it is a challenge for the car's traction control (TC) to intervene quickly enough. The rear of the car unloads at the apex as you accelerate through.
That said, holding second gear in "D" as I accelerate through the corner, the TC drives the car through the corner in complete control -- about 7 degrees sideways, and I can stay on the throttle.........doing the same thing in "S", and the car snaps sideways way further (and faster) than that, and I have to back out of the throttle or risk spinning out, at least according to my butt dyno.
I do believe that this is NOT a TC issue now. It is the throttle mapping that is so much more aggressive when in "S" mode. The same inch of throttle pedal travel in "D" that may get you to 1/4 throttle gets you to 1/2 throttle or more when in "S" mode. This brings on the HP and torque so much more quickly that the TC can struggle in certain situations to intervene quickly enough...........over and out......
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Very nicely written description Guard. Thank you
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