Both the V8 and the EcoBoost (the V6 is officially DEAD) get power increases for 2018, but Ford is not saying by how much yet.The V8 is going to get both port and direct fuel injection and a big increase in compression ration......475 HP anyone?
10 speed auto, magnetorheological (sp?) shocks....lots of improvements coming, but I'll still have to get used to that new front end....but, there are LOTS of other improvements as well -- I DO love that new digital dash...a LOT!
Maybe we should draft a letter to GM thanking them for the new Camaro and making Ford step up its game with the Mustang.
Both the V8 and the EcoBoost (the V6 is officially DEAD) get power increases for 2018, but Ford is not saying by how much yet.The V8 is going to get both port and direct fuel injection and a big increase in compression ration......475 HP anyone?
10 speed auto, magnetorheological (sp?) shocks....lots of improvements coming, but I'll still have to get used to that new front end....but, there are LOTS of other improvements as well -- I DO love that new digital dash...a LOT!
Maybe we should draft a letter to GM thanking them for the new Camaro and making Ford step up its game with the Mustang.
I am glad I didn't buy a 2015. It must make those who did buy a 2015-2017 model feel like crap.
Magnetic suspension, 10 speed auto, DI and PI, more power digital dash. I wonder what the weight will be.
Well, I own a 2015 GT Guard Green convertible and still LOVE it. Not enough in the 2018's to even think about needing to move to a new one. Believe me, 435 HP is plenty -- although of course, more would be nice. There has never been a time that I "needed" more.
As to the weight, there is NOT a whole lot that Ford can do to affect that using the current chassis and body, so the 2018 will still be (technically) way overweight. The changes to the outside of the 2018's amount to different bumper covers and a new hood. The interior changes are nice, and that dash is NICE....but you know? There's nothing wrong with gauges that are analog, and they tell me everything I need to know quickly and accurately.....and it's usually that I am going too fast.:lol:
With word that 2018 GT350 will have no real updates besides a few cosmetic and color choices, I think pushing the power up past 460 hp would seriously cannibalize sales of the premium GT350.
Anyone else remember the last few times Ford talked about power bumps? 412 to 420, then 420 to 435 .. yet all variations of the coyote 5.0 (2011 - 2017) put down around 370 whp and 350 wtq, + or - 5.
Remember, the Mustang is now a global car for Ford and thus needs to be able to hit all emissions standards from Europe. Which is why the 2015+ GT's have such quiet exhaust and is likely the reason why there won't be a big jump in power (460+).
One more thing to keep in mind, there was no mention of weight reduction and the 6th gen Camaro puts down around 410 whp and 410 wtq, again + or - 5 and weighs a bit less. Even with the new 10 spd, which GM also has that same exact trans, and a power bump, it likely still won't be enough to make up the .8+ second difference in the 1320 between the Camaro and the Mustang.
Looks pretty cool, still having a hard time with the sleeker Euro-Look VS Retro American muscle look. My 14 has a lot of cool 60's retro stuff that I like. I also understand that car manufacturers need to push the envelope and it's part of marketing to sell cars, especially since the stang is now a global car for people to buy. I just wonder what the price point will be with the newer upgrades???
The 2018 Mustang will have not have close to 475hp...tops will be close to 450hp although torque will be up marginally over what it is now.
For anyone that hasn't had a chance to ride in a newer Corvette, CTS-V or ATS-V you have no idea how good Delphi's strut/shock really is and if you want to know the cost look at the option on the GT-350.
So, if you want to wait and purchase a fully loaded 2018 GT you better start saving now...IMHO
There's no reason it couldnt. I also dont think they'd go through all of that and only bump it to 450, which is still below the Camaro. I agree, a 475 bump would be ambitious, especially this close to 2020 where we're going to get an all new model, but 475 would not be hard at all for this engine to do.
Power: (all about hp per liter)
The EcoBoost engines are competitive with the European sports cars on a hp per liter basis.
MPG: (hp/liter is good, now need lighter)
Ford just needs to work on lightening more of the models with more aluminum. F-150 went all aluminum body. More cars need more parts (preferably suspension parts, unsprung weight & rotation mass) to take off a couple hundred lbs per model.
Handling:
They've made huge progress on the handling in getting closer to European car's road handling abilities. The Magnaride shocks as an option should close that gap enough to call it "even". (as in Mustang is now even to Audi & BMW's sedans!)
Unless that bogey of a CAFE rating for 2025 (53.5 MPG average?) goes away, I am not sure Ford, or any manufacturer can afford to keep a V8 in the engine lineup.
And, with the popularity of SUV's recently, the corporate CAFE ratings have been suffering anyway. Obama's unrealistic goal for 2025 is going to have to be modified or we'll all be driving underpowered Prius's or Bolts.....I can't afford a Tesla, you know?
But for now........PARTY ON! 2018 and 2020 sound very promising for the Mustang's power output.
You guys slay me...how about living life for today...what did Emerson say?, "Life is a journey, not a destination", and my all time favorite is from Albert Einstein, he said, "Life is a preparation for the future; and the best preparation for the future is to live as if there were none".
Motor trend has way more pictures of the car than anyone else I have seen so far, including a lot of the interior. Seeing leather where there hasn't been before. Center column, and doors. (not just the center of the door.) 63 pictures. 11 Significant Changes to the Refreshed 2018 Ford Mustang - Motor Trend
Dead serious. That's the rating for the stage III power pack for the current GTs which get that from an rpm boost as well as upgraded intakes, and a tune. The new GT will have a better exhaust, a rpm boost, direct injection probably the same intakes as the GT350 which are in the stage III power pack. It will have more upgrades than available for the current power pack. No reason to think otherwise.
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Dead serious. That's the rating for the stage III power pack for the current GTs which get that from an rpm boost as well as upgraded intakes, and a tune. The new GT will have a better exhaust a similar rpm. Boost direct injection etc. It will have more upgrades than available for the current power pack. No reason to think otherwise.
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While i agree with this, and like i said there is no reason the car cant make 475, it probably wont.
The reason i say that, is look at the difference from the '14 to the '15. Heads and cams only picked up 15 HP at the crank, and we expect them to give us 40 hp with DI, compression, and some RPM? Probably not.
Granted, they also have us 8 hp from '12 to '13 by just deleting piston squirters, so who the hell knows haha.
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