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Old 12-14-2017, 07:48 PM   #71
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Also you don't need 600HP to run a 3.31 ratio! 300HO is fine!
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In general though, the 3.31 is good for the dragstrip or a road course!

Even the Texas Mile!

That's 3 applications for one ratio! You can't beat that!
331 in general is a good gear, but again it depends on what the driver wants.
For me it's not enough gear in a tq lacking 3.7, that's why I went 373s.

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331 in general is a good gear, but again it depends on what the driver wants.
For me it's not enough gear in a tq lacking 3.7, that's why I went 373s.

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3.73 is cool for the dragstrip and road course, but it tops out at 180mph! So forget about the Texas Mile! Which is so much fun, you wouldn't believe! I've never done it, but I can just imagine how it would feel to go balls to the wall for longer than a 1/4 mile!
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Hey everyone! Spread the word about TurboSmart's new 12psi wastegate benefits!

1. High boost in 3rd gear(without a tune) 19psi
2. 1 Bar of boost or 14psi n 1st and 2nd gear(without a tune)
3.High boost in 4th gear 19psi
4.Full boost in 4th gear at 5500rpm

All of this without a tune! Its pure insanity from TurboSmart! You Rick TurboSmart!!
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The rear gear ratio or final drive has absolutely nothing to do with the weight of a vehicle.

Also, there is no perfect gear. A 3.31 gear could be great or horrible depending on the application.

Things like tire size, internal gearing (transmission), engine characteristics, purpose of vehicle, etc.. determine the final drive for a vehicle.

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3.73 is cool for the dragstrip and road course, but it tops out at 180mph! So forget about the Texas Mile! Which is so much fun, you wouldn't believe! I've never done it, but I can just imagine how it would feel to go balls to the wall for longer than a 1/4 mile!
Um ... for what vehicle?? 3.31 gears in a Mustang 3.7 V6 or Ecoboost has the gearing for over 230 MPH regardless of manual or automatic. Not sure what you are on about topping out at 180 MPH. Also, a stock Ecoboost will only run around 153 MPH because of aerodynamic drag (needs more power to go faster).
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The rear gear ratio or final drive has absolutely nothing to do with the weight of a vehicle.

Also, there is no perfect gear. A 3.31 gear could be great or horrible depending on the application.

Things like tire size, internal gearing (transmission), engine characteristics, purpose of vehicle, etc.. determine the final drive for a vehicle.



Um ... for what vehicle?? 3.31 gears in a Mustang 3.7 V6 or Ecoboost has the gearing for over 230 MPH regardless of manual or automatic. Not sure what you are on about topping out at 180 MPH. Also, a stock Ecoboost will only run around 153 MPH because of aerodynamic drag (needs more power to go faster).
You must be confused! The 3.73 in the GT350 tops out at 180mph! I said nothing about the 3.7 V6 and 3.73's except that its good for the dragstrip and a road course! Said nothing about automatic or manual!

People who this their **** don't stink cause they got the Performance Package are foolish! I would take 3.31's over 3.55 or 3.73 and screw the PP!
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You must be confused! The 3.73 in the GT350 tops out at 180mph! I said nothing about the 3.7 V6 and 3.73's except that its good for the dragstrip and a road course! Said nothing about automatic or manual!

People who this their **** don't stink cause they got the Performance Package are foolish! I would take 3.31's over 3.55 or 3.73 and screw the PP!
Drive a car with 3.73s or 3.55s.

My car in its current stock ds shape isnt recommended for speeds over like 115mph and top end really isn't my thing anyways.
Fun is my thing and let me tell you 3.73s are fun Lol!
331s is the minimum a mustang should have with any engine choice.

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Oh yeah! The 4th benefit of the 3.31 is the beautiful gas mileage!

LOL! Performance Package my ***! All you get is boring black wheels!
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Drive a car with 3.73s or 3.55s.

My car in its current stock ds shape isnt recommended for speeds over like 115mph and top end really isn't my thing anyways.
Fun is my thing and let me tell you 3.73s are fun Lol!
331s is the minimum a mustang should have with any engine choice.

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You must own an S197! Those are my favorite! Yeah 115mph is fast enough! If you could run that on the dragstrip, you have a monster!
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You must be confused! The 3.73 in the GT350 tops out at 180mph! I said nothing about the 3.7 V6 and 3.73's except that its good for the dragstrip and a road course! Said nothing about automatic or manual!

People who this their **** don't stink cause they got the Performance Package are foolish! I would take 3.31's over 3.55 or 3.73 and screw the PP!
I think you are the one that is confused. At no point did you or anyone mention anything about the GT350. It tops out at 180 MPH because it does not have the power to go faster, it is drag limited. If it could top out it's 6th gear it would be going well over 250 MPH. The GT350 is tuned to top out in 5th gear at redline.

As for the standard vs PP, the PP is the better performance car. Again, nobody mentioned anything about the standard vs PP except you. You get more aggressive gearing, better suspension, brakes, larger radiator, stiffer swaybars, better tires, more advanced traction and stability modes, etc..
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I think you are the one that is confused. At no point did you or anyone mention anything about the GT350. It tops out at 180 MPH because it does not have the power to go faster, it is drag limited. If it could top out it's 6th gear it would be going well over 250 MPH. The GT350 is tuned to top out in 5th gear at redline.

As for the standard vs PP, the PP is the better performance car. Again, nobody mentioned anything about the standard vs PP except you. You get more aggressive gearing, better suspension, brakes, larger radiator, stiffer swaybars, better tires, more advanced traction and stability modes, etc..
The GT350 is beautiful of course!
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I have to admire his tenacity at sticking with his "logic", no matter how flawed.

YIU GO MSP!!!!!!! ALL RIGHT!!!!!!!
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I have to admire his tenacity at sticking with his "logic", no matter how flawed.

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LOL! That's just me JimC!
Hey spread the word on the Collective with the Ecoboost owners about my review of TurboSmart's new 12psi wastegate! Thanks!
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Wasn't necessarily a review though. More of a opinion

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Wasn't necessarily a review though. More of a opinion

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A review is an opinion!
LoL! Don't want me getting any credit?

Go look at the other wastegate thread! Not as detailed!
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A review is an opinion!
LoL! Don't want me getting any credit?

Go look at the other wastegate thread! Not as detailed!
To a extent it is. A review is a in depth explanation. Not a blunt statement

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To a extent it is. A review is a in depth explanation. Not a blunt statement

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Before me, nobody understood why you would need to upgrade! The excuse was it creates smoother boost curve! Or better throttle response!

Now everyone knows that its important that the ECU allows high boost in 3rd gear which is 19psi!
Most guys don't have an external boost gauge like me! Mist rely in the onboard boost gauge, which you can't see while viewing Track Apps!

Knowing you can run 14psi in 1st and 2nd gear is awesome! That shortens your 0 to 60mph time, ad well as you 60ft time!
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3rd gear falls under the 8th mile! So having high boost in 3rd gear will give a nice 1/8th mile time!

This detailed explanation, and not blunt statement!

Yeah, you don't want me to get credit! I understand Rapinator126!

Unfortunately I've already taken credit, and everyone reading knows this!
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Not that I don't want you to get credit, take the credit if you feel you have earned it
just everything you post makes me 🤣

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Did I miss it? Did he ever re-run the new wastegate and post the elapsed time?
I am thinking that he may have run it and missed breaking into the 13’s.....OP, if you were successful, pics of the time slip, or it didn’t happen.......
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Did I miss it? Did he ever re-run the new wastegate and post the elapsed time?
I am thinking that he may have run it and missed breaking into the 13’s.....OP, if you were successful, pics of the time slip, or it didn’t happen.......
Problem is whether its a deep 13 or high 12 people will judge TurboSmart through me!.. That's the problem!
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Even TurboSmart themselves didn't record a 1/4 time improvement for the 10psi wastegate! They just said you will see gains!

So that's what I'll say too!
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People are not going to judge that company through you. I promise you that.

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The 18's are literally running low low 11's with a tune and tire. That's hard to beat.

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Hey, where did you read that. I am vacillating*between the 18 eco and GT. Looking for all the info I can get on them.
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Oh yeah! The 4th benefit of the 3.31 is the beautiful gas mileage!

LOL! Performance Package my ***! All you get is boring black wheels!
In MHO that is all it's good for.
And you are so wrong when you say all you get is the 19" wheels.
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A little hero worship going on here.
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Hey, where did you read that. I am vacillating*between the 18 eco and GT. Looking for all the info I can get on them.
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All you have to so UA go to Google and type into the search(2018 Mustang GT and Ecoboost 1/4 Mile time.)

The GT is impressive, but a Ecoboost with the right upgrades can be just as fun!
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Few different places have ran those times. Modnightperformance and beefcakeracing to name a few. LMR was close

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Problem is whether its a deep 13 or high 12 people will judge TurboSmart through me!.. That's the problem!
Three pages saying you would “easily” get into thre 13’s with the new wastegate......if you did, say so.......if not.....say so. It really is that simple.
There are many Mustang owners or potential owners who would be interested in the results. “Feeling” the difference on the street and dropping your ET by 1/2 a second are massively different things.
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There are enough published results to show that a bone stock Ecoboost Mustang is quite capable of dipping into the 13s in the 1/4.

There is also enough published info that says to get any benefit from a waste gate with higher spring pressure you need to adjust the tune and in a worst case you lose power because it confuses the ECU without a tune.
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There are enough published results to show that a bone stock Ecoboost Mustang is quite capable of dipping into the 13s in the 1/4.

There is also enough published info that says to get any benefit from a waste gate with higher spring pressure you need to adjust the tune and in a worst case you lose power because it confuses the ECU without a tune.
Nope! My ECU is definitely not confused! Only on the initial run does it seemed confused, because it is calibrating.
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