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Old 08-25-2016, 12:29 PM   #1
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Changed starter got a new battery car will crank but not start the gates on the dashboard will move like all the way to one side and then the other never did befor what. Luke be the problem
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check all your grounds on the battery. does your theft light flash?
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Cleaned battery cables and post tried again same thing yes when I turn the key the theft light flashes after I try starting it no it dosent checked ground wires they are all ok
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check your ground wire condition. not just at the battery but at the radiator support. also make sure the ground wires at the battery connector aren't broken or corroded. I had the same issue and it was a smaller wire not making a good ground and tripping the theft system
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Where is the radiator support
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just in front of your battery. its the piece of metal that runs across the front of your car above your radiator
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here is a video of what it does
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Did that it is doing still what I posted in the video
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Did you try to hook the battery up backwards at first? It almost sounds like a computer problem.

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Did you try to hook the battery up backwards at first? It almost sounds like a computer problem.

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No it was hooked up right
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This is what it's doing I hope this one plays
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Do you have the wires on the starter hooked up properly?
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I don't hear it cranking in the video. IIRC, the theft light along with all the other dash lights will come on when you first turn the key to run as a bulb check. I don't see it flashing, just coming on and turning off. I think the gauges do that whenever the battery is disconnected as a "calibration", I remember mine did that the first time I started t after I had disconnected the battery. I tend to believe it is not theft light related. What preempted the replacement of the battery and starter? Was it running fine before the replacement of both items?
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No the starter went out it would turn over but not start the starter was just spunning
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ok, I'm sorry for the basic questioning, but I need to know more info. Who did the install? A shop? Yourself? At any rate, assuming the new battery and starter were installed correctly and the car does turn over (crank) when you try to start it (as I currently understand), get back to basics, are you getting spark and fuel? Trying to eliminate the obvious before returning to the security issue (if there is one).
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ok, I'm sorry for the basic questioning, but I need to know more info. Who did the install? A shop? Yourself? At any rate, assuming the new battery and starter were installed correctly and the car does turn over (crank) when you try to start it (as I currently understand), get back to basics, are you getting spark and fuel? Trying to eliminate the obvious before returning to the security issue (if there is one).
I hope he doesn't have a security issue. I despise the PATS these cars have.

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I don't either, but not sure how changing the battery and starter would all the sudden trigger an anti-theft problem.
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Everything is hooked up right we changed it ourselves and besides the Gage's when we tried to start it the positive wire on the battery started smoking and got real hot
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Everything is hooked up right we changed it ourselves and besides the Gage's when we tried to start it the positive wire on the battery started smoking and got real hot
Something is grounding at some point. You may have a bare wire that has yet to be noticed.

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Yep. That new info definitely points to something shorting out. Start tracing wires between the battery, alternator and starter.
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the theft issue I had was because of a bad ground contact on the battery (stupid universal replacement battery terminals). the theft light would blink really fast while trying to start the car this one is different. there is definitely an issue though. the positive cable shouldn't get hot. I would say trace all your wires and make sure they are on the correct spots on the starter. maybe go as far as to take the starter out and get it tested. was it new or reman?
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Starter was brand new so was the battery
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This is a tough one to diagnose over the internet. You definitely have something shorting out. You need to start tracing wires. Double check to make sure something didn't get pinched somewhere.
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Generally when the gauges sweep like that its an indication of a battery beginning to die. You are not getting full power be that for a mis wire, as you stated something smoke, a starter pulling to much power or maybe even a bad new battery. I would take the starter and battery back out, and have them checked at Auotzone or whatever parts house is in your neck of the woods.
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