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Old 11-11-2004, 12:10 AM   #1
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Arafat finally died!

Bout damn time.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,138229,00.html
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:16 AM   #3
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In the end... This probably won't actually be good news.
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I dunno anytime a asshat like him dies thats a good thing
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Old 11-11-2004, 12:26 AM   #5
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laser is probably right.

look at what this asshat said.
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"As long as the world saw Palestinians as no more than refugees standing in line for U.N. rations, it was not likely to respect them. Now that the Palestinians carry rifles the situation has changed," Arafat explained.
anybody remember bout that time he went in the UN meeting w/ a gun?
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You do realize he was neutered by the Israeli Army that has surrounded his compound with tanks for 2 years. He was unable to leave for any reason. He might as well have been in prison. The PLO has lost the power it once had. Hamas is the real power in Gaza. Iranian support Hamas 100%. They have the Suicide bombers, the weapons and the money. The PLO survives from support from the UN and the French sympathizers.
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French President Jacques Chirac, who had visited Arafat days before his death, called him a "man of courage and conviction who, for 40 years, has incarnated the Palestinians' combat for recognition of their national rights."

Yet look at what the French did for the Israel 45 years ago

For reactor design and construction, Israel sought the assistance of France. Nuclear cooperation between the two nations dates back as far as early 1950's, when construction began on France's 40MWt heavy water reactor and a chemical reprocessing plant at Marcoule. France was a natural partner for Israel and both governments saw an independent nuclear option as a means by which they could maintain a degree of autonomy in the bipolar environment of the cold war.

In the fall of 1956, France agreed to provide Israel with an 18 MWt research reactor. However, the onset of the Suez Crisis a few weeks later changed the situation dramatically. Following Egypt's closure of the Suez Canal in July, France and Britain had agreed with Israel that the latter should provoke a war with Egypt to provide the European nations with the pretext to send in their troops as peacekeepers to occupy and reopen the canal zone. In the wake of the Suez Crisis, the Soviet Union made a thinly veiled threat against the three nations. This episode not only enhanced the Israeli view that an independent nuclear capability was needed to prevent reliance on potentially unreliable allies, but also led to a sense of debt among French leaders that they had failed to fulfill commitments made to a partner. [U]French premier Guy Mollet is even quoted as saying privately that France "owed" the bomb to Israel.

On 3 October 1957, France and Israel signed a revised agreement calling for France to build a 24 MWt reactor (although the cooling systems and waste facilities were designed to handle three times that power) and, in protocols that were not committed to paper, a chemical reprocessing plant. This complex was constructed in secret, and outside the IAEA inspection regime, by French and Israeli technicians at Dimona, in the Negev desert under the leadership of Col. Manes Pratt of the IDF Ordinance Corps.
Both the scale of the project and the secrecy involved made the construction of Dimona a massive undertaking. A new intelligence agency, the Office of Science Liasons,(LEKEM) was created to provide security and intelligence for the project. At the height construction, some 1,500 Israelis some French workers were employed building Dimona. To maintain secrecy, French customs officials were told that the largest of the reactor components, such as the reactor tank, were part of a desalinization plant bound for Latin America. In addition, after buying heavy water from Norway on the condition that it not be transferred to a third country, the French Air Force secretly flew as much as four tons of the substance to Israel.


Trouble arose in May 1960, when France began to pressure Israel to make the project public and to submit to international inspections of the site, threatening to withhold the reactor fuel unless they did. President de Gaulle was concerned that the inevitable scandal following any revelations about French assistance with the project, especially the chemical reprocessing plant, would have negative repercussions for France's international position, already on shaky ground because of its war in Algeria.


At a subsequent meeting with Ben-Gurion, de Gaulle offered to sell Israel fighter aircraft in exchange for stopping work on the reprocessing plant, and came away from the meeting convinced that the matter was closed. It was not. Over the next few months, Israel worked out a compromise. France would supply the uranium and components already placed on order and would not insist on international inspections. In return, Israel would assure France that they had no intention of making atomic weapons, would not reprocess any plutonium, and would reveal the existence of the reactor, which would be completed without French assistance. In reality, not much changed - French contractors finished work on the reactor and reprocessing plant, uranium fuel was delivered and the reactor went critical in 1964.

So you see the French have been responsible for the problems between Israel and Palestine from the start they just switched sides like they have done with us
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Arafat had so many opportunities to forge a peaceful resolution but passed on them because he wanted the destruction of Israel. He has always been a terrorist and nothing more. Notice how there are talks of resuming peace talks now that Arafat is dead? he was just a obstruction to this all along.
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I dunno anytime a asshat like him dies thats a good thing
I second that.

The only good terrorist is a dead one.
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That sucks for the Palestine...jews are just going take over now...
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So you see the French have been responsible for the problems between Israel and Palestine from the start they just switched sides like they have done with us
Not quite. The Israelis and the Palestinians have been, and still are, responsible for the problems between them. The problems began in the 19th century, long before the region was self-governing.

It could probably be argued that the problems actually started in the middle ages with the Arab conquests, and have simply been a bit more public in the last 80 years.
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kinda of ironic how he passed away on veterans day!
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