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Old 11-14-2004, 07:55 PM   #1
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list of cars/trucks

i want to know if any one has had or knows any one with or knows any thing good or bad about these car. all of these will have manuals in them

Jeep cherokee with the 4.0 liter
Jeep wrangler w/4.0
Celica GT or GTS with the 5 or 6 spd
Mazda 6
S-10 w/4.3 liter
subi w/2.5 liter
Maxima with the 255 hp

there are a few others i cant remember, so put in ones that i didnt remember. the main goal is fwd/awd used, under about 12k and has so be some what quick. thanks for all your suggestions.
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a wrangler wont be quick but would be sweet for off-roadin'
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subi WRX is fast and safe.
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a wrangler wont be quick but would be sweet for off-roadin'
Yes, yes it will. Plus the ladys love them!!
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celica GT-S - its slower than you think, but looks fast even standing still.
Mazda 6 - its got some pep, and IMo is one of the hottest sedans out right now. if you want some power with its looks, wait till the mazdaspeed 6 comes out, 2.3l turbo AWD.
Subaru - get a STi if youre gonna do anything, the wrx have **** trannies and the n/a 2.5's are slow as balls.
Jeep Cherokee - can you say rollover beethoven?
Jeep Wrangler - i still dont see why people like these things.
S-10/Sonoma - theyre pretty balsy, my buddy had a sonoma with the 4.3 and he kept up with my 4.6 bird. plus you can do all those sport truck things to them, its like rice for the truck crowd.
Maxima - bolt ons and nitrous fed one at my track, runs 12's I FREAKING KID YOU NOT. the guys 55 too, just bought the car for the commute then found the website about its potential and dumped some moola into it and all of a sudden he has a cult following, crazy stuff.

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holy crap, you have a 12k limit. you know what i can do for you? you want AWD? look for a 1st Gen Eclipse/Laser/Talon, should be under 4 grand. awd, and stock should pull 15's. now drop about 3 grand into intake, exhaust, turbo, intercooler, injectors, pump, safc2, datalogger setup, act2600 clutch and youre talking low 13's to high 12's on pump. so for 7 grand MAX you have a 12 second car, and thats if you pay for name brand parts.

also for under 12 you can find a primo 2nd gen eclipse GSX for around 10k if you look hard enough, like i wish i had.
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holy crap, you have a 12k limit. you know what i can do for you? you want AWD? look for a 1st Gen Eclipse/Laser/Talon, should be under 4 grand. awd, and stock should pull 15's. now drop about 3 grand into intake, exhaust, turbo, intercooler, injectors, pump, safc2, datalogger setup, act2600 clutch and youre talking low 13's to high 12's on pump. so for 7 grand MAX you have a 12 second car, and thats if you pay for name brand parts.

also for under 12 you can find a primo 2nd gen eclipse GSX for around 10k if you look hard enough, like i wish i had.
the only problem with getting like a WRX sti is i cant afford the payment or the insurance. and the only problem with the Eclipse is im guessing the insurance will be really high and i need a very reliable car. i dont kno when the first gen Eclipses came out but im thinking it was in the early 90s. now a GSX might not be out of the question, but i am still leaning to a wrangler for insurance and age reason and also there ability in the snow. any info would be great on these cars tho.
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Good call. wranglers are awesome. just don't get the 4 banger. And if you got questions, go check out my website!!
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Wrangerls are actually pretty bad in the snow..they're so light they just slide everywhere.
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Wrangerls are actually pretty bad in the snow..they're so light they just slide everywhere.

Yes and No.

They are not light, they are over 4000lbs. They suck in the snow because they are short-wheelbase rear-wheel drive with all the weight up front. But they also suck in the snow because they are usually sporting the Goodyear Wrangler GSA tires...

New shoes and they are just fine.




As far as the original post, any 4.0L Jeep is a fundamentally sound vehicle. The engine core has been around for +/-30years, and they ROUTINELY go 250,000 miles before needing a rebuild.

I've owned two Cherokees (one 2.5L carburated and one 4.0L Fuel Injected) and two Wranglers (one 2.5L Fuel injected and one 4.0L Fuel Injected) and absolutely loved all of them.

You can't go wrong with a 4.0L Cherokee, plus Jeep has a cult following that exceeds Mustangs IMO.

www.7slotgrille.com/forum
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Haha...i think like 8 of those sites are nates lol. I've had bad experiences with jeeps...but that's just me I guess. My friend's header broke for the second time this weekend, that's freaking loud. He tends to be attracted to light poles too...hit one...didn't do a damn thing to his jeep. Totaled out a car by rear ending it...has a scratch on his front bumper..they hold up to just about anything. His top also has a problem of coming off...while going down the road.
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Wranglers are alright but a regular cab short bed 4x4 ford ranger is much better.
And anything will do good in the snow with the right tires.
Jeeps will always squeek and you will always beable to hear the wind roaring at high speeds.
Besides driving a wrangler feels like driving a very touchy go-cart.
I would go with the Ranger.
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Timberwolf..that name inspires me to get another dip lol. I dunno about the whole ranger thing. I have a 97 ranger that spins at the sight of mud...
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That is hilarious
Is it a 4x4 with any nice size tires at all
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Nope...2x4 with street tires, 4.10 gears, and 2 sets of helper spring...bad example.
How about a 93 4 banger 5 speep 4x4 standard cab long bed with 31's...got one of those out at the shop. I've never driven it anywhere but in mud so I can't vouch for it lol
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Jeeps will always squeek and you will always beable to hear the wind roaring at high speeds.
Besides driving a wrangler feels like driving a very touchy go-cart.
I would go with the Ranger.

My Jeep doesn't squeak





And wind noise?!? What wind noise?





And don't forget; Ranger = IFS while the Jeep = SFA
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And you can't beat SFA. Plus, Jeeps are just cooler than a ranger. I got all the ladies in my jeep.
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I have a 92 or 93 ford ranger too. I am not sure which. I is blue, 4x4, 5-speed, short bed, standard cab, its got old 32" tires and full of mud. I have had it up to 85 miles an hour on the backroads scared the crap out of me in the condition that it was in but in the mud it never quits. I mean its alright on the highway. Its definately better than a wrangler both on the road and off.
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thats because you have a soft top chief.
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I have a 92 or 93 ford ranger too. I am not sure which. I is blue, 4x4, 5-speed, short bed, standard cab, its got old 32" tires and full of mud. I have had it up to 85 miles an hour on the backroads scared the crap out of me in the condition that it was in but in the mud it never quits. I mean its alright on the highway. Its definately better than a wrangler both on the road and off.
Is yours all rusted out and stuff? That describes the shop ranger to the T..I gotta post a pic of it on here next time I go out to the shop
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Thats awesome. yes the floorpans are rusted out from mud that was caked in the carpets. It looks like crap but runs like a dream.
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yea u better take those crappy s10/sonomas off their :p

whats wrong with the 4l rangers? they r pretty balsy to, i settled for the 3l and its pretty decent aswell runs like a champ on/off road. ive only used 4wd twice while mudding other then that my 31x10.5 wrangler rt/s r fine for the mud...suck balls in the rain
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5 speed mazda 6s' are VERY nice, I almost had one instead of my 02 GT.. they aren't the fastest but they ride and handle great

the maximas are very nice, too
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i think im going to get an 05 jeep, i mean they are over priced but, im thinking i can get on in june of 06 at abouit 15k or so and they come with a 6 spd. its just a really nice truck. plus i have always wanted a convertible
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i think im going to get an 05 jeep, i mean they are over priced but, im thinking i can get on in june of 06 at abouit 15k or so and they come with a 6 spd. its just a really nice truck. plus i have always wanted a convertible
you will love it!! But why not just get an 04 Rubi. The 6 speed doesn't make THAT much of a difference I don't think.
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well the good thing about the 1st gens, is that the awd eagle talons are cheaper than awd eclipses just cause of the name. and awd lasers are even cheaper.

when my buddy insured his 90 talon awd it was 60 a month for full coverage. and now his 95 talon awd is 85. both were his own policy, not like me its 60 cause im on a neon and my dads the driver of the eclipse.


and nothing better than a awd E/T/L in the snow. 60/40 distribution is hella good, its hard to whip out the tail in sleet in my buddies talon. and trust me, we tried, it just sticks. and good thing about it over say a jeep, is you can run 12's with a few grand in mods. jeeps can just play in the dirt, cause i guess they didnt get enough playing in the mud when they were kids jk ken and n8r.
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Its not that I didn't play in the mud when I was a kid, its just that I love it so much that I still want to do it!!!
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I like my rusty 93 exploder The 4.0L is a pretty solid motor though.
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you will love it!! But why not just get an 04 Rubi. The 6 speed doesn't make THAT much of a difference I don't think.
if i wasnt going to buy the 6 spd which im not sure as of right now,i would deff buy like a 01 or so with like 40k on it, and like a X or whatever i can get for about 10k. i really dont want to have a monthly payment (my dad is going to match what ever i can put down on it, so i can put down about 5000 or 6000$). i just think the 6 spd is such cool feature
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yeah but unless you do a lot of serious off-roading, it really isn't going to help much, an 01 X would be a great choice, give you some money left over for a few mods
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ok so the 1st gear is only mainly used off road, aka getting out of the mud? i mean i kno you use 1st every time u start it but thats it main purpose? im only really using this car to get through a good bit of snow, like about 2-3 feet. how much should i be looking at spending on a 01 X with a 5 spd, and a stereo?
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The X didn't come out till 02, but you could get an 00-01 Sport 5spd starting at 11k most likely if you looked around
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