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Old 11-30-2004, 08:15 PM   #1
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05 mustang GT or...04 Cobra

Not sure how many of you hang out over on stangnet, but I thought I would bring this debate over here and see what kind of response there is from y'all. Ok, here is the deal, you have $28k to spend. The dealer has an 05 GT for $28k, as well as an 04 Cobra, new, for $28k. Which do you buy, and why? Forget about things like insurance.

For entertainment, y'all can see the other debate here Clicky

My opinion, dollar for dollar, the cobra would be the choice hands down. Easy to mod. Responds extremely well to mods. Ready for retarded rwhp of 600 or more. Limited production numbers. I love the 05s in person, but I don't think I could turn down a cobra for the same price.

Now, let's debate...and let's keep it friendly, unlike stangnet. :beer:
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04 Cobra without a doubt. You just cant get enough of that whine.....
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well... I'd say the Cobra, but "is there anyway to get rid of that annoying whine?" hehehehe, I had a good laugh at that.... definitely 04 Cobra... hands down. Are you kidding? difference of 90 some horsepower... plus, it's lighter... looks 10 times better, is a tried and true engine.... supercharged. IRS, I'm tired of saying stuff now... but it's just a better car. That's like asking, would you take an '04 Mustang GT, or a 2003 Mach 1, it's a duh answer I think. That's only a difference of 45 horsepower... but almost everyone will pick the Mach 1. Superior styling.... superior quality... I mean, in your example, you're throwing a Cobra against a GT... of course the Cobra is going to have superior everything. It's made to be superior to the GT... otherwise, they'd make the GT more expensive... Just in case you didn't read all that crap:

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04 Cobra without a doubt. You just cant get enough of that whine.....
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well... I'd say the Cobra, but "is there anyway to get rid of that annoying whine?" hehehehe, I had a good laugh at that.... definitely 04 Cobra... hands down. Are you kidding? difference of 90 some horsepower... plus, it's lighter... looks 10 times better, is a tried and true engine.... supercharged. IRS, I'm tired of saying stuff now... but it's just a better car. That's like asking, would you take an '04 Mustang GT, or a 2003 Mach 1, it's a duh answer I think. That's only a difference of 45 horsepower... but almost everyone will pick the Mach 1. Superior styling.... superior quality... I mean, in your example, you're throwing a Cobra against a GT... of course the Cobra is going to have superior everything. It's made to be superior to the GT... otherwise, they'd make the GT more expensive... Just in case you didn't read all that crap:

'04 Cobra hands down
I fully agree with you, but, there is quite a debate going on over there stating that the 05 is the better car, and "with x amount of dollars the 05 GT will beat the cobra..." blah blah blah.

When the Mach 1 came out, some of the Mach owners/wanna be owners started bashing the 03/04 cobras. Now that the new mustang is out, it looks like the 05 owners/wanna be owners might start the same bashing. Pages 2 and 3 get pretty good at times in the link in my first post.
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you only have $28,000... why dump in "x amount of dollars" when you could dump "x amount of dollars" into the Cobra, and be even FASTER... I don't see how they could miss this simple point. It's faster...it's better. Why not buy the 05 V-6, and dump money into it... you can make that faster than the 04 Cobra too... not just the GT. Not only that, how many things are there out to trick out the 05 Mustang? It's 3V... not 2V like previous GT's... not 4V like Cobra's.... 3V. Companies are just starting to come out with stuff. So let's take an untested engine... dump untested stuff into it to make it faster... and watch as the 04 Cobra STILL takes it. The reason the Cobra is far superior is that it has already proven itself. There is a large market for parts for it. The engine has proved it can take the abuse. The 05 GT is still a gamble. Eventually, when you start playing the gamble game with every new engine option... you will loose eventually. Why even take the gamble? The 05 GT has to make up 90+ horsepower... you've got some time to blow while they try to find a company with parts for them.... plus, you can always go out and mod the Cobra.... just more .02
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:O wait a second!.... I'm making arguments that:
1) make sense
2) others agree with
3) don't make me look retarded
what's happening to me?... I must be getting sick
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:O wait a second!.... I'm making arguments that:
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what's happening to me?... I must be getting sick
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:O wait a second!.... I'm making arguments that:
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what's happening to me?... I must be getting sick
I know why! Your talking about cars and not politics!
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probably.... this is a flamer battle on stangnet... pretty intense, and interesting
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04 cobra... the 05 will prolly have the first year bugs that always happen.
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get the cobra

stock for stock, its faster.
stock for stock, it looks better(imo and others opinion)
stock for stock, it costs about the same or even a little cheaper.
stock for stock, it prolly has far greater potential

so get the cobra. youll thank yourself and us later.
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get the cobra

stock for stock, its faster.
stock for stock, it looks better(imo and others opinion)
stock for stock, it costs about the same or even a little cheaper.
stock for stock, it prolly has far greater potential

so get the cobra. youll thank yourself and us later.
For the record, I am not in the position of looking at either car, I was just curious how y'all would feel about this subject. I already have an 03 Cobra...although, I wouldn't mind getting an 04 to go with it.....

It is pretty interesting though, seems like everyone here seems to be on the Cobra side. Huh.
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04 cobra... the 05 will prolly have the first year bugs that always happen.
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04 cobra... the 05 will prolly have the first year bugs that always happen.
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the 04 cobra

i like the 05's, but if i can get a cobra for the same price, hell yea
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it's not a hard choice.... if you're not impotent. The people that support the 05's against an 04 Cobra are just not playing with a full deck. Who cares if the chassis is out dated? You're not buying a 20+ year old vehicle. You're buying a marvel of engineering that happened within the least few years... 20 years ago, could they have built the 04 Cobra that stands before you today? No. Manufacturing combined with amazing engineering brings you the 04 Cobra. Regardless if it's built off the same basis chassis mold of 20+ years ago... it's an amazing car. The Mustang Cobra... Mustang the way Mustang was meant to be.
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The Mustang Cobra... Mustang the way Mustang was meant to be.
Amen to that brotha...Preach on!!!! :beer:
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I flat out love the 04 cobra, but I can see why they say the new gt is better. For the first time since 1979 the car has been TOTALLY rebuilt and redesigned with a better frame and just about better everything. Sure the cobra is faster for now and yes it eats mods up like crazy. However I have the feeling come 06 when the new cobra arrives the 04 cobra will be a thing of the past and the gt by then will have a wide varity of parts for it. In all reality it would be a hard choice. I'm still partial to the 99-04 body, but the 05 is growing on me. However if I had 28k to slap down on a car i'd go and buy me a 96 cobra for about 10-14k then dump the rest into and you will be by far more supierior then a 04 cobra AND 05 gt. Just my .02 Either way its a mustang and i'd be happy in either
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Smurfin... that quote seems like a sig quote to me
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cobra + KB Whine = T'eh OWWWNAGE

my vote 04 cobra in mystichrome :worship:
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oh I dunno, I read some people HATE that whine...
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oh I dunno, I read some people HATE that whine...
well after a while it might annoy me too but that would be after like well......never
plus does the 05 have a pain scheme as BADASS as this
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well after a while it might annoy me too but that would be after like well......never
plus does the 05 have a pain scheme as BADASS as this
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well after a while it might annoy me too <snip>......
I know what you mean about the whine. I mean, when you hit the loud pedal and all you here is it getting louder and louder? Man, makes you ill doesn't it? Then you go and put a cold air kit on there and it nearly doubles the volume? Disgusting. Then there's the smaller pulley and it gets louder. Ick.

Now, if I could only keep my foot from mashing the gas...my cheeks might stop aching from smiling so hard...
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I know what you mean about the whine. I mean, when you hit the loud pedal and all you here is it getting louder and louder? Man, makes you ill doesn't it? Then you go and put a cold air kit on there and it nearly doubles the volume? Disgusting. Then there's the smaller pulley and it gets louder. Ick.

Now, if I could only keep my foot from mashing the gas...my cheeks might stop aching from smiling so hard...
yes i do i got to drive a modded cobra puting down 470/502 WHEEL this weekend now i finally know why that whine is sooooooo damn annoying
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