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Old 07-27-2003, 07:26 PM   #1
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Need help with 3.8 to 5.0 switch for my 2001 V6 Stang.

Hello. I recently found a 5.0 thats in good conditon out of a firebird and was wondering if I were to get it rebuilt and replace all the old parts with Edelbrach parts would it fit in that years frame? I realy need your guys's feedback on this. thank you.
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Oops sry, I ment thunderbird. o.o
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first of all its Edelbrock, lol, but anyway, I am sure you can get the 5.0 into the '01, but it probably won't be easy. It all comes down to the time and money you are willing to put in it.
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Its much easier to put a 4.6 into a 96 up, or a 5.0 into 95 and down. Ford didn't even put a 5.0 into your year Mustang, so that is going to make it a lot more difficult.
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Hmm. So it could be more trouble than its worth? But hell I can still try.. Ill probably end up with a monster when im done.
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I would really check into it thoroughly, it might be a monster of a project more than anything else. Good luck though.
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some guy in a magazine did it, ill find it , he put a 5.0 in a 00 v6 and turned it into a Bullit Mustang
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Thanks im sure ill need it. But it would be worth it. me puttin a 5.0 in a V6 Frame thats like putten my V6 in a 4 Banger.
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No ####! find that damn thing XD >
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Bullitts have 4.6s with a special intake manifold though, not 5.0s.
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I would probably have to do some cutting for it to fit right.
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Probably not, a 4.6 is much wider than a 5.0 actually, in fact I heard a 4.6L is wider than a 460.
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Realy now, new one on me. I got the ****in money to do all this and its just I dont know were to start..
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It's the angle of the cylinders, also the 4.6 is overhead cam which makes it taller. The older ohv engines were 90*, I think the modulars are something like 60* angle, don't quote me on that one.
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My friend told me of a supercharger off of a thunderbird and he told me it would like give me 300hp, is that possible?
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www.stangparts.com has a how to on how to put a 5.0 in , not sure if they have anything on how to install it in the newer mustangs or not.
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Your friend is talking out of his hat, he would be referring to the SC Tbird, that is a Supercharged 3.8L Car, but that engine is very different than a standard 3.8, and you CANNOT just bolt its Supercharger on your standard 3.8L, and even if you could, they put out a little over 200hp, not over 300 hp stock. The best way to do that swap is to do the entire engine swap, and there isn't even enough of a hp difference with the newer 3.8s to even bother. Even with the entire engine swap you need radiator, intercooler, possibly transmission, and numerous other parts from the SC tbird to do the swap and make it work. Its not just a bolt on.
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Heres the super charger. I dont know what to make of it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33741&item=2425620672
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Yeah, thats it, even he admits it won't fit past a 98. It won't fit any mustang 3.8 without a lot more than he is trying to sell there, and his price is outrageous, don't waste your money.
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He actually only has enough there to maybe replace the supercharger on an SC Tbird if you had one that had gone bad.
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alright now back to the 3.8-5.0 switch. If I managed to somehow pull it off what mods could I look forward to doint to it to get the greatest amount of hp?
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Im thinken about gettin sum Short Aluminum Headers and runnin straight pipes with high flow converters but im not sure how much of an increase that would make.
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on a v8 go with a h-pipe or preferibly a x-pipe. It will sound and perform better. Opening up exhaust is always a good idea.

is the tunderbird 5.0 the same as the fox 5.0? If so, doesnt that have the same tranny as the 99+, the T-5?

and i though the the k-member was compatible too.

I was underthe impression that a 99+ 302 swap was pretty easy. correct me if i am wrong.
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The Mustang 5.0, which has not been used since 95, was a HO version, or High Output, the Tbird was a standard 5.0, not high out put, the tbirds came with automatics, not 5 speeds, except maybe in the supercoupes. Also the tbirds got 4.6s long before the mustangs did so if you got a 5.0 from a tbird its probably maybe what a 92 or 93 model?
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Why would it be easy to swap in an engine into your car that Ford Motor Company has never offered in that particular car? That puzzles me.....
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The 5.0s used a totally different electronics system, they aren't even DIS, they have distributors, 4.6L is OBDII, 5.0L is not. Its a totally different computer system or on board diagnostic system.
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Hmm looks like im in for a long hawl on this one but I might as well try no since in not trying to. Another thing would I have to strengthen the frame or anypart of the car to adjust it to the new power of he 5.0? cause the frame is made for only a 3.8.
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you can get a 4.6 and buy the modular 5.0 block......saw it in 5.0 Mustangs
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This is gonna be one hell of a project to do I guess. But I might as well try it I might come out with a pritty damn fast stang
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This is gonna be one hell of a project to do I guess. But I might as well try it I might come out with a pritty damn fast stang
take lots of pics, I am interested in seeing this....is your 5.0 carbed or EFI?
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Im thinken about gettin sum Short Aluminum Headers and runnin straight pipes with high flow converters but im not sure how much of an increase that would make.
get long tubes with an H-pipe, much better.
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It wont be to difficult to do, Gotta swap out, engine, wiring, harness, fuel lines, Computer, Chip, motormounts, tranny, unless you have a t5 it may bolt up to the 5.0.

You'll need a clutch to handle that new power, maybe a stronger tranny... not really needed right away.

7.5 rear end handles ~300 hp.. So look into changing that. Dont need to right away.

All that kinda crap.
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Hey i have two questions.

1.) What about the Motor mount when switching from 3.8 to 5.0
2.) And what about crate engines, what If I get a high performance Cobra engine and drop that ##### under my hood, i know it should fit since its a 5.0, but will if fit right in good and mostly I just have to get all new AC lines(maybe if I use it) and will a normal 5.0 eletrical harness work and I know I need a new 8.8 rear. Anything else? What kind risk am I taking with a crate engine, because Im concerned about buying a Amped up 5.0 race engine and then fitting it but not know which electrical harness will work and what kind of Fordchip I will need burnt, im not too good with Electrical stuff with the ENGINE DIRECTLY, and CHIP.
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Same sort of things you do to a 3.8, only the parts selection is almost endless. Aftermarket heads, intakes, cams, it goes on and on, stroker kits, etc, etc.
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I got a 5.0 v8.. it's nice but i wouldn't switch it into another car... too much work for something that isnt that great.

If you were going to get NOS and a supercharger and had 5000-8000 to put in it... DIFFERENT STORY, lolz.

My girlfriend has a 1999 4.6L Mustang GT, it pulls just as much as my 5.0 (i think atleast. I havn't really noticed a difference in the two) and that would be a much easier swap for you, i suggest going that way.

And wow, i just noticed im replying to a topic that is 3 months old.
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