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Old 01-21-2005, 09:01 PM   #1
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If I was to put together to sell brand new 4.2 V6 stroker kits which would come with a 4.2L crankshaft, 6 connecting rods, 6 pistons, and maybe a pulley depending on the year of your car. What would be a fair price for all of that. Keep in mind this would be BRAND new parts!!! BRAND new!!! I was think somewhere around $800+ shipping If you didn't want a pulley, make it $700 plus shipping. If you bought these items BRAND new from ford, this their prices:

4.2 Crank...... $259.05
4.2 Piston...... $33.66 for 1, for 6 - $201.96
4.2 C. Rod..... $65.63 for 1, for 6 - $393.78
4.2 Pulley ..... $107.63

Total - $962.42
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:chin: im gonna have to think about it
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How hard is it to do?

Is it just bolt off and bolt back on (basicly)? or is there other things too?
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It's easy if you know how to rebuild engines. Nothing fancy, just pull out your engine, pull out the old pistons and crank and put the new ones in. it's that simple.
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Hmm, I can do that, not 100% about how to do the timing yet though.


Wonder how much it will cost to ship it over here :chin:
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the timing is pretty much idiot proof. Your timing chain has two sprockets. And on each one there is a little dot. All you have to do it have them point at each other and your timing is set. And to make it even more idiot proof, the crankshaft and camshaft have little "keys" that the sprockets slide on, only one way might I add. So as long as you have the dots pointing at each other, you're all set.
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that sounds pretty cool, about how much power is gained by making it a 4.2L?
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that sounds pretty cool, about how much power is gained by making it a 4.2L?
Just look at robs numbers, thats where abouts you would be i think
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you should have an option for forged internals
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Eh the only thing I could use would be the crankshaft

I need forged pistons for a .60 overboard and forged connecting rods
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I think I might be able to pull something off like have the option to buy each piece seperate at a certain cost or the whole kit for a cheaper price.
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Oh ya, you could expect ~5 hp and ~30tq
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that sounds pretty cool, about how much power is gained by making it a 4.2L?
according to Ford's website, the 4.2 stroker puts out 202 horsepower and 350 foot pounds of torque.

the guys at v6f150 usually run about 160 hp to the wheels and 240-250 to the wheels on the dyno...
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yeah, ford likes to tell everyone BHP numbers at the Flywheel i guess
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I think the 350 is WAY wrong, so you're telling me a stock 4.2 has more tq than me now? Here's what I found. You're about 100tq too high.

Engine liters 4.2
Cylinder configuration V-6
Horsepower 202-hp @ 4,800 rpm
Torque 252 lbs.-ft. @ 3,400 rpm
# of valves 12
Sequential MPI
Fuel type unleaded
Aluminum cylinder head
Ignition type electronic
Engine orientation longitudinal
Fuel economy city 17 mpg
Fuel economy highway 20 mpg
Fuel tank capacity 25 gal.
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I think the 350 is WAY wrong, so you're telling me a stock 4.2 has more tq than me now? Here's what I found. You're about 100tq too high.

Engine liters 4.2
Cylinder configuration V-6
Horsepower 202-hp @ 4,800 rpm
Torque 252 lbs.-ft. @ 3,400 rpm
the 252 is what it it gets to the wheels - not what the engine itself produces.
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so if i stroke my motor its 5hp and 30lbs tq. alota work for that.. as long as previous problems arent there i dont have to bore at all right?? boring just aint worth it to me
oh and thats not high comp pistons is it?
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the 252 is what it it gets to the wheels - not what the engine itself produces.
Nope, that's what the engine makes. How can a 3.8 make 210-220tq stock and a 4.2 make 350tq. It's not possible. The 252 is right.

Also you don't need to bore as long as everything is fine. I didn't bore my block when I did my swap. Everything runs like a champ. The pistons are stock, I believe the compression ratio is 9.2 or 9.3:1
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Nope, that's what the engine makes. How can a 3.8 make 210-220tq stock and a 4.2 make 350tq. It's not possible. The 252 is right.

Also you don't need to bore as long as everything is fine. I didn't bore my block when I did my swap. Everything runs like a champ. The pistons are stock, I believe the compression ratio is 9.2 or 9.3:1
why don't you read my above post...

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according to Ford's website, the 4.2 stroker puts out 202 horsepower and 350 foot pounds of torque.

the guys at v6f150 usually run about 160 hp to the wheels and 240-250 to the wheels on the dyno...
there's a difference between how much power an engine makes, and how much it makes at the wheels.
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I did read it and it still is not correct. A Stock 4.2L F-150 makes ~160rwhp and ~215rwtq. The 202 is BRAKE horsepower and the 252 is BRAKE torque which means at the flywheel, i.e what the engine makes.
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so then all you need is the crank??? or you have stock pistons from a 4.2??
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You need the crank, pistons, and rods. I have all stock 4.2 stuff in my engine.
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i believe its always you im talking to when it comes to b.s. i dont know about
thank you for your help...
im taking engine repair at school now. id like to get a hold of this project(4.2) i have another car to grive. would you recomend it or say i should wait on it??
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I think it's a fantastic mod to do to our 3.8's. It helps considerably close the gap on the GT's TQ wise and it also makes the engine bigger Liter wise so now you can suck in more air and use it more efficiently thus creating the 30+ tq. HP wise if you add BV heads, you will see about another 20hp gain. Finally I'm glad I can help you in anyway, shape or form.
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well tax time is here and im selling a car ontop of this so if your kits come through give me a ring. oh and my student loans wow gd jump here lol..
cjd512@yahoo.com oh and a price for p&p on uppers and lowers please
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I did read it and it still is not correct. A Stock 4.2L F-150 makes ~160rwhp and ~215rwtq. The 202 is BRAKE horsepower and the 252 is BRAKE torque which means at the flywheel, i.e what the engine makes.
i'll be back when i find the dyno charts...
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i'll be back when i find the dyno charts...
**** me, this may take a while... i can only find one dyno chart for a 4.2 and it's heavily modified - plus, ford no longer has the older f-150's listed on their site where i remember seeing the engine specs while looking for info on gear ratios.

oh well, i'll try again tommorow. ineed to sleep now - i gotta be at work in 5 hours
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i'll be back when i find the dyno charts...
Just trust me, I'm write. As soon as you realize it, we'll both be in our happy place!!
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well tax time is here and im selling a car ontop of this so if your kits come through give me a ring. oh and my student loans wow gd jump here lol..
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I will keep everybody in the loop, also what year is your car?
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You are going to need new rings AND the cylinders honed at the very least.

Not to mention a gasket set.

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You are going to need new rings AND the cylinders honed at the very least.

Not to mention a gasket set.

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Ya, you'll need this stuff as well, and new bearings too. I'm right now just gauging interest to offer the "hard to get stuff" the rings and bearing and all that can be gotten at any auto parts store.
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sounds sweet

if i may ask a "dumb" question....

what is "stroking" as pertaining to car engines? if i'm understanding right, it adjusts the cam rotation and piston position to allow more a/f into the cylinder per cycle?? or am i way off on my thought?

someone enlighten me
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close stroking reffers to the stroke of the crank wich while stroking your crank will push the piston higher and draw it lower which allows more fuel and air plus changes your compression some to the higher side
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SWEEET!!!

We need to talk Rob, if they do all this it is a great time to change the cam and get
mondo HP Tq and HP gains at the same time! Especially on a 99^ engine.
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