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Old 01-24-2005, 01:53 AM   #1
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GSR and Civic Si question (Kinda Long)

A couple years back when i was in highschool, my friend claimed he had a GSR. He had a home made cold air intake made from that piping stuff , and a stage 3 something clutch. I saw him at my job a couple weeks ago, and asked him what he was running at the tracks. He said he was running 15.2's.

Is that normal for a GSR? I though they ran mid/high 14's. Anyways, i remember he use to always race a bunch of Civic Si's (99's, not the shoe looking ones) and lose more than he won. He's a REALLY good driver. Then i had a flashback of him arguing with other ricers because they said he really didnt have a GSR because of the seating material or something.

So my question is, did he REALLY have a GSR? I mean, if Civic Si's (Slightly modded, CAI, Exhaust...) could beat him, wouldnt i be able to? I remember i use to drive a Civic Dx (My 1st CAr)and he'd smoke me just for the hell of it. So, i kind of want my revenge.


Oh, we live in Southern California. Riverside to be exact. Could that have hurt his 1/4 mile time?
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my buddy had a GSR, he was a half decent driver, and couldnt get better than a 15.8, but he was rocking some cars that were in the mid 14's

track numbers dont always reflect what happens on the street, a bad launch, bad 60ft will kill your ET, but on the street, somehow you can pull on those cars with faster times than you

who knows, maybe it was, maybe it wasnt
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15.2 coulda been bad conditions or just not that good a driver cause they run around 14.7, could be either its not a real GSR cause the 99/00 civic si runs 15.8 in the 1/4 mile
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my buddy had a GSR, he was a half decent driver, and couldnt get better than a 15.8, but he was rocking some cars that were in the mid 14's

track numbers dont always reflect what happens on the street, a bad launch, bad 60ft will kill your ET, but on the street, somehow you can pull on those cars with faster times than you

who knows, maybe it was, maybe it wasnt
i always thought they ran high 14s
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pretty cool fact though that the 1st gsr ( body before they did the circle head lights ) was faster then the type R, it was a was non vtec b18 with a better compression ratio as a type R so down the line they finnally decided to throw the vtec head onto it which is the gsr we all kno of
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i was always under the impression that a 14.8-15.2 was the normal time for a GSR, depending on conditions and whatnot

a FWD car is hard to get that "target" time with, because its hard to launch em
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yeah true that makes sense
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gsr with minor bolt ons(intake, exhaust) should be doing mid to low 15's, high 14's with excellent driver. theyre all top end, so they pick up halfway down the track and take off.

buddy of mine has a 97 LS integra, and did a 15.8 stock and he is a excellent driver.

but none the less, they are slow. i decimated 5 hondas on the way home from the sacramento kings game tonight, a hatch, a 1g integra, a new civic hatch, a riced out integra ls and a stock looking ls. and by decimated, i mean i left it in 4th and from 60 up it was over before it started. the 1g integra i even stopped and was slowing down and decided to race him as he did the flyby and whooped on him a second time.
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the 1g integra i even stopped and was slowing down and decided to race him as he did the flyby and whooped on him a second time.
hahaha I so love that feeling you stomp on it and you put such a lead on them that you slow down on purpose just to make the race a little worthwhile maybe give them a lil lead and then you stomp again

hahah love that sh*t right.

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pretty cool fact though that the 1st gsr ( body before they did the circle head lights ) was faster then the type R, it was a was non vtec b18 with a better compression ratio as a type R so down the line they finnally decided to throw the vtec head onto it which is the gsr we all kno of
Actually the first GSR's (92-93) had a B17A not a B18 under the hood. And it did have VTEC.
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wow this dude signed up just to correct you on your rice-ology

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Who was this friend of yours? I raced some guy who said he had a gsr (I think) who said he ran a 15.2 I believe but that was at l.a.c.r. and that track isn't that great. It was an Asian guy with some name of nature like Tree or something. I beat him and this was when I had less mods but he did well. He should live around your area too.
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Hey herring, Is your dad gonna bring his car too when we go to the track? I have never raced another mustang there that has gears.
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Hey herring, Is your dad gonna bring his car too when we go to the track? I have never raced another mustang there that has gears.
I don't know after my dad installed his pullies they made a whining sound and he's paranoid about things not working correctly. I'm sure I can talk him into going but his car is slow. It's not going to pull 13's like your car. Partly just cause his is a 98. But like I said, I think I can talk him into it.
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Your dad needs to do a PI swap on his 98 then. Doing a PI swap will def put him nice.

Theres plenty of kits if not just buy the take offs of those who got rid of them. Def well worth it.
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Your dad needs to do a PI swap on his 98 then. Doing a PI swap will def put him nice.

Theres plenty of kits if not just buy the take offs of those who got rid of them. Def well worth it.
pi? Also, the track is l.a.c.r., it's super slow, I bet a low 15 there could run high 13 elsewhere. Well...maybe that's overdoing it but I've heard people say a whole second difference was made somewhere else.

Oh and just for the record, he plans on doing the 5.4 litre navigator/cobra swap.
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99+ GTs have a whole new intake and heads. They flow alot better then what the older 4.6s had. a simple swap over and a 96-98 GT will have as much HP as a 99+ GT

The navi swap is cool a buddy of mine did it. Def took awhile ill tell you that much. He also had a whole custom intake made for his car cause he wanted to keep the stock hood give it the whole sleeper thing. That car is soooo hardcore he gave me a ride in it wwwoooo sick just sick
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lacr= los angales california raceway?

sac raceway is pretty nice, i just wish they were open more, like all day, cause i might not ever leave.
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lacr= los angales california raceway?

sac raceway is pretty nice, i just wish they were open more, like all day, cause i might not ever leave.
I woudln't leave either.

l.a.c.r. = los angeles county raceway, close though. It's a bit south of you. 420-430 miles probably. If I remember correctly you live toward sacramento. I could hit back and see what you put for location but this is easier, haha.
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nah about 350-300 miles away, a 4 1/2 hour drive if i can do 80-85 down 99 the whole way. im about a hour north of fresno. last year it only took us 2 1/2 hours to get from fresno to six flags.
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nah about 350-300 miles away, a 4 1/2 hour drive if i can do 80-85 down 99 the whole way. im about a hour north of fresno. last year it only took us 2 1/2 hours to get from fresno to six flags.
I highly doubt people will believe me but I got to sacramento in about 4 and change. That's when I got my ticket though, and that's why it cost $1000. I almost made it too, didn't get the ticket till Merced county. But man, on the 5 freeway at 3 in the morning, so boring, so stright, so vacant...

Anyway, you know if you want to drive the 300 miles to come drag with us, you're welcome to come, lol
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a civic with any number of Ss or Rs is still a civic..
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Anyway, you know if you want to drive the 300 miles to come drag with us, you're welcome to come, lol
sometime this summer theres going to be a huge socal dsm meet, im gonna try to get the sac-dsm guys and central valley dsmers to go down there and make a huge dsm track day. but knowing dsm's that means 25% that will attempt the trip will break down on the way there and the other 25% will break down while there, and the other 50% still left will be the people who are stock or close to it.

good thing youll be there you can take me to get parts after i break something else at the track. lets see, last time it was an alternator that blew at sac raceway 2 hours from home, being 4 hours away i could only imagine what can happen.....

maybe i should trailer it lol.
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sometime this summer theres going to be a huge socal dsm meet, im gonna try to get the sac-dsm guys and central valley dsmers to go down there and make a huge dsm track day. but knowing dsm's that means 25% that will attempt the trip will break down on the way there and the other 25% will break down while there, and the other 50% still left will be the people who are stock or close to it.

good thing youll be there you can take me to get parts after i break something else at the track. lets see, last time it was an alternator that blew at sac raceway 2 hours from home, being 4 hours away i could only imagine what can happen.....

maybe i should trailer it lol.
How'd you get home the first time?
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well i had to call a tow truck. 200$. ooh my insurance paid 30 bucks w00t. i now have AAA.

i was with 2 other dsm's. one guy was like "dude lets take this alternator off right here, go down to autozone, trade for a new one, and reinstall it right here" i was like "no ****ing way dude, i am not doing a alternator removal and install in the middle of the ampm parking lot at 11 at night in 0 visibility fog. besides autozone closes at 8 so were screwed" so we waited the 4 hours for the tow truck. stupid insurance(cause its based in modesto) calls a modesto company and has them drive all the way to sac. well before me he had 2 other calls. on top of that on the way to sac, i was in the carpool lane passing some people, by myself, and got pulled over, and a 351$ fine. so i basically wasted 550 bucks in 1 day, and i only got 2 runs in at the track cause the fog rolled in and even awd guys were having traction issues.
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well i had to call a tow truck. 200$. ooh my insurance paid 30 bucks w00t. i now have AAA.

i was with 2 other dsm's. one guy was like "dude lets take this alternator off right here, go down to autozone, trade for a new one, and reinstall it right here" i was like "no ****ing way dude, i am not doing a alternator removal and install in the middle of the ampm parking lot at 11 at night in 0 visibility fog. besides autozone closes at 8 so were screwed" so we waited the 4 hours for the tow truck. stupid insurance(cause its based in modesto) calls a modesto company and has them drive all the way to sac. well before me he had 2 other calls. on top of that on the way to sac, i was in the carpool lane passing some people, by myself, and got pulled over, and a 351$ fine. so i basically wasted 550 bucks in 1 day, and i only got 2 runs in at the track cause the fog rolled in and even awd guys were having traction issues.
sucks, i have AAA too. I've always been treated well by tow truck companies with AAA. When I bought my supra away from home they had a tow truck there in 15 minutes (no radiator) and when I rolled it down a hill on fire they had one there too! Lol! Granted that one was later cause first of all I had to walk 12 miles home at 2 a.m. then go to the hospital and call them the next day.
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