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Old 02-09-2005, 02:09 PM   #1
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:angryfire this is some really dumb BS if I dont say so myself



POSTED: 7:58 am PST February 9, 2005
UPDATED: 8:25 am PST February 9, 2005

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Nestled in a quiet Sacramento neighborhood is a very loud political statement that is testing the very foundation of the right to free speech.

Hanging from a house in Land Park, a soldier's uniform in a noose dangles from a rooftop. The words "your tax dollars at work" are scrolled across the chest.

In a community full of patriotism, this view of the war in Iraq has not gone unnoticed.

"I think it's the ultimate sign of disrespect. We have troops dying for us," Land Park resident Mark Cohen said.

"(I'm) annoyed and disgusted. I think if this is the way someone feels they can find a better way to vent their opinions," Land Park resident Pete Miles said.

The homeowners behind the controversy are Steve and Virginia Pearcy. They released a statement saying, "There will always be people who are offended by political speech, and the most important forum of all ... is one's own residence. The First Amendment is meaningless unless dissent is allowed."

Some neighbors agree.

"Even if you don't agree with it, he has the right to state his opinion. I don't find it offensive at all," Land Park resident Cece Williams said.

The tension in the neighborhood has escalated into more than just a political feud.

The matter has been reported to the police department and to the city attorney. The city council has even heard about it, but says they can't solve the problem.

"Unfortunately or fortunately this is protected speech by the First Amendment ... so there is nothing we can do about it," Sacramento City Councilman Rob Fong said.
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:24 PM   #2
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Well, he does have the right to state his opinion, so why get mad, just ignore it.
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Old 02-09-2005, 02:31 PM   #4
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You do NOT see this kind of disrespect from conservatives. I don't care what you think of me but you only see this stupid **** from the left side of the world. That is just utter disrespect and it offends me and I am not even in the military. I can only imagine what people who are serving feel when they see someone do something like this.

I am so angry right now it is unbelievable.

What the hell happened to this country?

****ing idiots. People like that don't deserve the freedom this country provides them.

You can disagree with the war but you do not disrespect the people over there fighting it like that.

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Well, he does have the right to state his opinion, so why get mad, just ignore it.
cause more and more people would start doing it.
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Well, he does have the right to state his opinion, so why get mad, just ignore it.
It is highly disrespectful to the people losing their lives overseas. If I had to walk outside my house and see that everyday I would be extemely pissed
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This is a country full of diversity. There are people of all kinds of social backgrounds and beliefs. Just because someone says or does something that disrespects others or pisses u off, u cannot take a way their freedom of speech. U know how many people u can piss off with your statements about the "left side of the world". but u will continue on stating your opinion regardless of whom you offend. And that is your God given right.
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****ing idiots. People like that don't deserve the freedom this country provides them.

You can disagree with the war but you do not disrespect the people over there fighting it like that.
Gotta agree thats just very disrespectful. You dont just insult those who are fighting and putting their lives on the line for our country

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Old 02-09-2005, 02:43 PM   #11
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I don't go around hanging Michael Moore from a noose on my house. I would not do that.

Michael Moore isn't over seas getting shot at by ungrateful ragheads.

They can say what they want it is still disrespectful to the troops. regardless if its their free speech or not.

Anyway I am done arguing in this thread as I am sure someone will get pissy about my left comment above. I don't see how you can compare that to the people that are hanging soldiers from nooses on houses but ok
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I am not arguing. I am simply stating a fact. Short of libel,slander, or inciting violence you can say or write whatever bull**** pops up in your head. The Constitution does not say you have the freedom of speech as long as u do not offend other people. Many times I have been offended by others people stating their opinion. There is nothing that can be done about it, getting mad only affects you.

(BTW please do not think I agree with this person.)
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:22 PM   #13
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I don't go around hanging Michael Moore from a noose on my house. I would not do that.
the rope wouldnt be strong enough
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Think about it this way:

From a military standpoint, my job is to defend this country, and it's constitutional rights. (not an exacting job desciption, by any means, but bear with me here)

You have to take things like this with a grain of salt. The military in essence defends his right to the freedoms he has and exercises.

From a personal standpoint, though I don't see the need to use such symbolism, in a small way, ths simple fact that this guy is doing this lets me know that my job is being done.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:25 PM   #16
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all im gonna say is send em over to iraq and pull the soldiers from the area they are, see how long they dislike the military then.
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THAT STUPID **** IS GOD DAMN LUCKY I DONT LIVE IN CALIFORNIA BECAUSE THAT PISSES ME OFF SO MUCH THAT I WOULDN'T CARE IF I GOT THROWN IN JAIL FOR BEATING THAT PEICE OF GARBAGE TO DEATH. How can they seriously dishonor the men and women that are protecting our asses right now. People piss me off. Its not a matter of whether it is legal for him to do it or not, it is just plain common God damn courtesy for the ppl that are serving in our military. I seriously wish that i was born in a different time period sometimes, back when ppl were not unpatriotic pieces of **** and they had the utmost respect for ppl serving our country. The world has started to turn into a bunch of ****ing pansys and really pisses me off. I wish we could send those ppl to live in ****ing france or something (didn't capitalize france for a reason) Nothing I have seen in a long time has pissed me off as much as that does. Damm...

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Imagine, how bad it was on d-day for our troops or Vietnam. That is nothing over there. Plus we are trying to help another country that is crap. We are also saving lives. My eyes they should of torchured bin Ladin at half time & made people who wanted to watch it pay payper view to order it & the funds went to the victims family's of 911.
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wow.

If that guy lived in my neighborhood, I promise one of two things would happen.
1) no effigy
or
2) no house.

I have friends in the military in Iraq, Afghanistan, Germany, and several places in the U.S. right now. I have the utmost respect for anybody who wears a uniform in defense of our country. I'm sure most of you have NO idea how much I kick myself in the *** for not being one of them. It's everyday, I promise...

I see their stupid little "free speech stand" as an attack on each and every individual who serves us (and THEM) every day, by being willing to die for us (and THEM) and I do not appreciate it. There is next to nothing I wouldn't do for our servicemen, and I mean that. I am so pissed off right now, but trying to control it....

232stang01, that is an awesome take on this. I never would have seen it that way, but you are so right.
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im all for free speech but that guy is an ******* and should have his *** handed to him
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That's just wrong....
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Hm...I believe that's going a little far with freedom of speech...I'd have a petititon going around to have it removed and sneak over one night and rip it all down.
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get me the adress, i have a few molotovs with his name on it.
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all over the news today, someone went there and took it down while there was one of our newsstations taking some shots for the story, all on tape. supposedly the guy who took it down could face trespassing charges. so looks like i wont be postin for a while, hard to postwhore with bubba the cellmate.
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