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Old 02-16-2005, 09:27 PM   #1
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Pony vs. 03' SRT4?

Ive got a 00' 3.8 and this kid wanted to race sometime. his parents bought him a 03 dodge neon srt4 i think it does quarter mile in the high 14's? the only mods i currently have are dual exhaust, and a tri-ax short throw. I know I cant beat him but do you guys think I can keep up with him??
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You can get a real good look at the rear of his car...
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I've seen good drivers keep up with a WS6 Trans-Am.
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I've seen good drivers keep up with a WS6 Trans-Am.
2: you talkin about the neo...i mean SRT 4? Right?


race the srt 4 and be owned for sure
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2: you talkin about the neo...i mean SRT 4? Right?


race the srt 4 and be owned for sure
I never said anything about the guy in the Trans-Am being a good driver.
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I never said anything about the guy in the Trans-Am being a good driver.
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Buy a cobra
That's like the ultimate answer to any Mustang board.

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hahahaha you wouldnt even get out of first before your already seeing the taillights of that stupid neon
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that neon will *** rape you without lube
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Hmmm....at least you wont drive away in a neon

and high 14's? Don't srt-4's get like mid 13's? That's what I've seen but perhaps they weren't stock.
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That's how I look at it. Might be faster than me but your still driving a neon
ahh crap another one of you...all these "232stang" people are going to confuse me. Brent's AIM name, 232stang, a232stang...ask brent how many times I've asked him about l.a.c.r. thinking he was 232stang on here.
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a232stang is brent he just uses that ame as a tester for his forum
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That's how I look at it. Might be faster than me but your still driving a neon
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V6 Mustangs are very underpowered. You need to put some mods on that pony to get to at least stock speeds to an SRT-4. I found that most SRT-4 drivers are way too cocky for their own good though, just cuz they have a 4 banger with a turbo in it doesn't mean they can take on any car on the road.
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just cuz they have a 4 banger with a turbo in it doesn't mean they can take on any car on the road.
why do they suck so bad from a highway roll? I can't even keep up in a 1/4 mile but highway is completely different story. Like they made a car with 1320 numbers just to sell it and after that it craps out
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I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the front wheel drive or not
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I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the front wheel drive or not
To many steriods is the problem
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srt4>v6 stang

Me>srt4

srt4 are quick but theyre not gods like their owners claim them to be. the srt4 forums marvel in their 500hp stock block achievement, and its funny cause dsmers have been doing it since the early 90's now. thats why i got one(even though 500hp isnt my goal, its nice to know its there)

to get a v6 to stock srt4 status youd prolly need some sort of forced induction, either that, or a 4.2 stroker that was very free flowing and a very good driver. then again the srt4 can buy a 10$ boost controller and be back in the lead.
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better hope he has a HORRIBLE start
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Me>srt4.
what does your car run in the 1/4?
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dont know yet, but will know as soon as i make it to the track without alternators blowing up or cops pulling me over.

ran a 15.3 stock(well K&N, 3" catback and greddy type-s, but still stock boost, 12psi) on ****ty t25 turbo that could only flow 225cfm@12psi.

now on evo16g@20psi flowing 550cfm. act2100 clutch kit, dual stage boost controller(launching at 11, 2nd gear switch to 20), 550cc injectors with a 190lph fuel pump, safc2@ -18 flat fuel trim(basically a safe tune, still rich). before i go i will also have a FMIC installed, prothane motor mounts and more than likely a ported evo3 exhaust manny(will match ported evo3 turbo). im leaning to the lower side of 13's if i get my 60ft down to at least a 2.2. the motor mounts will aleviate wheelhop. not a bad way to spend 2 grand.
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im leaning to the lower side of 13's if i get my 60ft down to at least a 2.2. the motor mounts will aleviate wheelhop. not a bad way to spend 2 grand.
That's so crazy that my car is known for not having any torque and I can get a 2.2 60ft time right now with no where near a low 13.
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Well, it's good to hear some domestics are killin some ricers at least
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not hard to just hit the gas and not worry about traction and get 2.2 60ft. the tbird would never spinn off the line and just stuck and i got a 2.0 once(that was my run that broke the bird into the 15's lol). its hard when things such as clutch feathering and throttle feathering and then add some torquesteer on top of that, and you can see why i hate FWD.
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now on evo16g@20psi flowing 550cfm. act2100 clutch kit, dual stage boost controller(launching at 11, 2nd gear switch to 20), 550cc injectors with a 190lph fuel pump, safc2@ -18 flat fuel trim(basically a safe tune, still rich). before i go i will also have a FMIC installed, prothane motor mounts and more than likely a ported evo3 exhaust manny(will match ported evo3 turbo). im leaning to the lower side of 13's if i get my 60ft down to at least a 2.2. the motor mounts will aleviate wheelhop. not a bad way to spend 2 grand.
you have an evo 16g? Just wondering how many DSMers want evo turbos? Also, does the evo exhaust mani bolt right up to your block or do you need a custom manifold? I wanna upgrade turbos and wouldnt mind selling everything to help cover the cost. Would there be a market on the DSM boards?
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lol sorry brandon, youre evo turbo does not hook up to our manny. the only evo parts we can use are from the evo 3's. i believe your 16g is a twin scroll and if i remember the outlet comes out the top right side, whereas my outlet comes out the top left. been a while since i last seen a evo8 engine shot though. i think 2 people have done it but the price of doing the actual turbo install and all the fab work the guy couldve gone straight to a FP3065 and not even dealt with a 16g. also the evo3 exhaust manny bolts straight to our engine. i am getting a ported evo3 manny from slowboyracing that will perfectly match my ported evo16g.

and our manifolds use the 7cm2 and yours are i think bigger. other than your engines being reversed(timing belt on left, ours are on right) and a few minor distinctions, your engine and mine are the same. youre like my big brother, err little if we go by years.

ah and i just talked to my buddy whos getting a FP58(56 trim) and he scheduled us for a couple dyno runs sometime next month. hes shooting for 430(56 trim, 680cc injectors, tuning with dsmlink) and im going for hopefully anything above 300, but not expecting anything over 350. we did a airflow log in lbs/min, and the going theory is lbs/min X 10= horsepower(give or take 10). he was running 32lbs/min and i was running 29. but im getting a fmic(look on my cardomain its alreayd here but not installed) and i can push a little more boost. maybe hit 35lbs/min.
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dammit. I just cant get rid of this big 16g twin scroll with a 9.8cm2 outlet!!!!! Too big for half the cars out there, too small for me
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not hard to just hit the gas and not worry about traction and get 2.2 60ft. the tbird would never spinn off the line and just stuck and i got a 2.0 once(that was my run that broke the bird into the 15's lol). its hard when things such as clutch feathering and throttle feathering and then add some torquesteer on top of that, and you can see why i hate FWD.
Yeah, my car burns very easily at launch with the 3.91 (which is very short for my car)
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dammit. I just cant get rid of this big 16g twin scroll with a 9.8cm2 outlet!!!!! Too big for half the cars out there, too small for me
Have you seen the new Evo V. Lamborghini Top Gear? The turbo is big and makes the car fast but the lag is so bad that when they rented some kind of p.o.s. (probably Toyota Trecel territory) and put both cars in their top gear, raced from 35m.p.h. (or something close) down 1.7 miles and the Evo lost. That's bad turbo lag.
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Yeah, my car burns very easily at launch with the 3.91 (which is very short for my car)

Have you seen the new Evo V. Lamborghini Top Gear? The turbo is big and makes the car fast but the lag is so bad that when they rented some kind of p.o.s. (probably Toyota Trecel territory) and put both cars in their top gear, raced from 35m.p.h. (or something close) down 1.7 miles and the Evo lost. That's bad turbo lag.
yeah, i've seen that. I mean, you put it in 6th gear (which is prolly around 1250rpms) and then have to hit boost in the lowest ratio gear.and have to get to around 3500-4000rpms or so. takes a while.
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Dodge Salesman once tried to get me to trade my GT in on one of those POS SRT 4 thingys, I almost laughed in his face. Then he tried to tell me they would outrun GT Mustangs, then I did laugh in his face, lol. I told him they might, and I did say might give a GT a run for its money, if it was stock, but I didn't know if I could believe that, and then I told him, but my GT isn't even stock....
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yeah, i've seen that. I mean, you put it in 6th gear (which is prolly around 1250rpms) and then have to hit boost in the lowest ratio gear.and have to get to around 3500-4000rpms or so. takes a while.
Yup, but once they were hitting boost it was definitely showing it had balls.
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