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Old 08-09-2005, 09:32 AM   #1
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1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

anyone care to compare/contrast them? I'm trying to decide which to start saving for.
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

Same thing....only one is "newer"
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

2001 is $3000 to $4000 more according to Kelley Blue Book...
but what about options, surely the 2001 has more options...
also, what about power.
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2001 is $3000 to $4000 more according to Kelley Blue Book...
but what about options, surely the 2001 has more options...
also, what about power.
Power is the same, options are the same....It's the same car dude
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

get the 01, the '99s didn't put out the power they were supposed to. so ford recalled them to "fix" them

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In general, earlier Cobras were making as much as 270 to 280 horsepower at the rear wheels, easily 305 horsepower at the engine's flywheel. We had seen firsthand one '99 Cobra that was being tested before some aftermarket modifications, and it only made 250 horsepower at the drive wheels — or about 300 horsepower at the flywheel.

Once word got out, Ford issued a recall on '99 Cobras and came up with a retrofit kit that brought the 4.6-liter V8 up to the 320-horsepower level. The problem was that the advent of this package which included a redesigned exhaust system from the catalytic converters back, an ExtrudeHoned intake manifold and a recalibrated EEC-V computer processor didn't come on the scene soon enough for it to be incorporated into 2000 model year Cobras.
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get the 01, the '99s didn't put out the power they were supposed to. so ford recalled them to "fix" them

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In general, earlier Cobras were making as much as 270 to 280 horsepower at the rear wheels, easily 305 horsepower at the engine's flywheel. We had seen firsthand one '99 Cobra that was being tested before some aftermarket modifications, and it only made 250 horsepower at the drive wheels or about 300 horsepower at the flywheel.

Once word got out, Ford issued a recall on '99 Cobras and came up with a retrofit kit that brought the 4.6-liter V8 up to the 320-horsepower level. The problem was that the advent of this package which included a redesigned exhaust system from the catalytic converters back, an ExtrudeHoned intake manifold and a recalibrated EEC-V computer processor didn't come on the scene soon enough for it to be incorporated into 2000 model year Cobras.
Interesting...
I always considered the 99-02's all one-in-the-same
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

yeah, that's still a decent amount of hp... is the $3000 difference enough to justify the gains?
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

but they should all be at 320 now right?... so what's it matter?.. if they were fixed...
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

No, go with a 99 and same some money...
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

well, I think I'll get the 99 and then save up for an 03.... cause "wow"
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

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The problem was that the advent of this package which included a redesigned exhaust system from the catalytic converters back, an ExtrudeHoned intake manifold and a recalibrated EEC-V computer processor didn't come on the scene soon enough for it to be incorporated into 2000 model year Cobras.
There was no 2000 Cobra to incorporate the changes to!!!!!
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

^ that's what I was thinkin
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well, I think I'll get the 99 and then save up for an 03.... cause "wow"
Or just save up for the 03 to begin with instead of doing it *** backwards, by buying a car to sell it and not get what you paid for it just to buy another one.
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

It really won't matter which one you get. They are the same car, the 99's with the problem have been fixed (unless you get one some 90 year old woman owned that didn't know anything about power). I would go for the 99 because it is an anniversary year for the mustang, the first cobra in that body style, plus it will save you a few dollars when buying it. As for options, Cobra's don't typically have options.

As an FYI for some, usually the only options available are spoiler delete and chrome rims. I know those were the only options available on the 03. It is the "all inclusive" mustang model with everything standard.

As long as you are buying, how much are you looking to spend? And also, do you spend much time on SVTPerformance.com? The reason I ask is there are always cars coming up for sale over there and I am willing to bet there are at least 25-30 for sale over there right now. I am not sure how many 99/01's are over there, but I do believe there are a few. This might could save you some money as well instead of buying from a dealer who has probably jacked the price. Also, if you are ready to drop about 25k, there are around 10 03/04 cobra's over there for that price right now.
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

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There was no 2000 Cobra to incorporate the changes to!!!!!
didn't see that, lol, it was a copy/paste
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

if you just want the power of the terminators, just supercharge your 99/01 instead of getting a 99/01 cobra, then saving for another whole cobra
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

Id just ouright save for an 03/04 cobra.

Thats what I been doing for a few months now just being even more dirt poor but saving for my next car purchase
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

Yeh, the 99 had power problems, was recalled, and they didn't make a 2000 cobra, just the 5.4 cobra r. They brought it back in 2001, only way you can really tell is the headlights, spoiler, and rear bumper. The 99 had a regular gt rear bumper, the 99 spoiler, and the chrome background headlights. There was also no 2002 cobra for those that want to know and don't...
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

From SVTP... this topic gets a lot of people a bit worked up

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As a former 99 Cobra owner, I would like to say I am Damn sick, of having to explain to moron newbies that 99's are not slower than 01's.

For some reason, people have come to think that the yare in any way shape or form slower than 01's They heard some **** about power, so they think they know 2 ****s about the car.

Look HERE NEWBIE TOOLS: 99's had a power issue in the very beginning, but it was a recall. 99% of 99 Cobras had the recall done, and post-fix 99's make the same or more power than 01's. The manifold was either extrude honed, or acid-dipped, you can tell by a green(acid-dipped), or Blue (extrude honed) dot on the manifold behind the alternator. They were all recalled to they're original specs, and were never supposed to make less than 320 hp.

Also, the catbacks were exchanged with better flowing products, with mufflers similiar to 50 series flowmasters. a re-flash was also done( obviously)

My 99 CObra put down 278 RWHP bone stock, that equals 335 hp at the crank...I raced a black 01 Cobra that had a catback/cold-air when I just had a k&n drop in, and we were DEAD EVEN from a 70 punch, 3 times.

There, I better never have to rebutt the testimony of a some dickhead ever again.

This **** needs to be a sticky I swear to god. Thank you drive-thru newbies.
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

I was thinking of getting the 1999 Cobra before the 2003 because I want the starting power of the Cobra... and I know I can't afford the 03 Cobra for awhile yet... but it's so gorgeous, and yes, I realize it's the basic Mustang body... but look at all the options. Just ask Smurfin. Plus, I have to learn to drive a stick... so why not learn on a Cobra ... and then get the 03 Cobra and NOT tear up the clutch
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I was thinking of getting the 1999 Cobra before the 2003 because I want the starting power of the Cobra... and I know I can't afford the 03 Cobra for awhile yet... but it's so gorgeous, and yes, I realize it's the basic Mustang body... but look at all the options. Just ask Smurfin. Plus, I have to learn to drive a stick... so why not learn on a Cobra ... and then get the 03 Cobra and NOT tear up the clutch
That might be a good plan as if you learn to drive stick on an 03/04, and pop the clutch too fast or something...yikes. It could get ugly or at least scare the **** out of you.
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I learned to drive a stick on a 46 Chevy p/u with a 4 speed with granny first gear, and no synchonizers, lol. Now that is the sort of thing you learn on.
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

Absolutely no difference between the 99 and 01 Cobra performance wise. Appearance differences:
99 has "Mustang" rear bumper, 01 has "Cobra" rear bumper
99 has trunk width rear spoiler, 01 has wing type, car-width rear spoiler
99 has GT leather seats, 01 has Cobra seats
99 has clear headlights, 01 has tinted headlights
99 has single CD with cassette player, 01 has Mach 460 system w/6-CD changer
99 rear decklid badge says "SVT" with "Cobra" underneath, 01 says "SVT" only
01 offered polished wheels, 99 did not
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

^ Actually if they did not take the care in for the recall there is a difference performance wise
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^ Actually if they did not take the care in for the recall there is a difference performance wise
You are correct, but it's EXTREMELY unlikely.....
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

And not all 99 cobras were affected with the issue. And extremely unlikely is still probably too high. The only way wouldn't have been fixed is if a 90 y/o woman owned it. Any real owner would have had it fixed asap.
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Absolutely no difference between the 99 and 01 Cobra performance wise. Appearance differences:
99 has "Mustang" rear bumper, 01 has "Cobra" rear bumper
99 has trunk width rear spoiler, 01 has wing type, car-width rear spoiler
99 has GT leather seats, 01 has Cobra seats
99 has clear headlights, 01 has tinted headlights
99 has single CD with cassette player, 01 has Mach 460 system w/6-CD changer
99 rear decklid badge says "SVT" with "Cobra" underneath, 01 says "SVT" only
01 offered polished wheels, 99 did not
yeah, I want Mach sound... I love it. I know it may not seem like much, but I really do love that system... and the Cobra seats.
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Well i have a 99 cobra and i love it to death. all cobra's come fully loaded and the 99's have the mach 460, just not the in dash 6 disc changer, which i have in my saleen and hate it. i prefer the system in the 99 cobra because it has a cd deck and a tape deck, so you have two decks, one you can replace with a dvd/mp3/cd player and the other one you can use to put boost gauges if you get a supercharger, or an equalizer for looks or whatever you want, point is you have two decks in the 99. the 6 disc mach in my saleen I just replaced today because its annoying (with dvd/mp3 player which i highly recommend!). before you lay the money down on a 99 check behind the alternator and if there is a green or blue dot then it was recalled and where it should be. hell even if it isnt, when you mod your cobra the exhaust problem will be fixed with your new exhaust and if you DO get a supercharger, the intake prob will also be fixed. I bought my 99 cobra with 13k miles on it for 15 grand, which makes it a MUCH better deal than an 01 cobra would be. if you bought a cobra for 15k, put 5k in a kenne bell SC, you'd be faster than an 03/04 cobra, cheaper insurance, and have 5k left in the bank (25k for 03 cobra), to get you arrested a few times in Vegas if you wanted. But its very obvious the looks of an 03/04 are absolutely gorgeous.
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all cobra's come fully loaded and the 99's have the mach 460, just not the in dash 6 disc changer....
sorry, didn't make that clear in my earlier post... both have Mach 460 systems, but with differenct type of decks.

Because of the stigma behind the 99's due to the recall issue, they are a better value than the 01's, even after considering value to age/year. Either year car would be an excellent platform for modding that could easily push the car beyond stock 03/04 Cobra performace, and with money left over (as 99CobraVert stated). It all depends on what's out there, and how important the other appearance items are to you relative to personal preferences.
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speaking of appearance, I like the white on white thing ya got goin :thumbs2:
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i like that too, i love white cars with white rims
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as long as i white car with white rims isnt a miata, im cool, saw one today and it was but ugly...i say you get the 99 and save some bucks
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

they are about the same cars, however the looks is a lil different. Different wing, headlights, center console, side skirts. Same power. alot of the 01s came stock with chrome rims
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

the 01 has some of the kinks worked out of it and the interior is much nicer.
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Old 08-18-2008, 12:13 PM   #35
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Re: 1999 Cobra VS. 2001 Cobra

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yeah, I want Mach sound... I love it. I know it may not seem like much, but I really do love that system... and the Cobra seats.

I own a 99 Cobra. It has the Mach 460 sound system.
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