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Old 08-12-2005, 12:22 AM   #1
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First legit drag trip

Took the car to the drag for a 'test and tune' at Southern Georgia Motorsports Park tonite and damn I thought I'd do better than I did.

Mind you I was comparing to those lists of specs that say a stock V6 will do anywhere from high 15's to mid 16's.

My best time was 16.3 @ 86mph w/ a 2.55 60' time.
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I think thats why I am scared to goto the strip. Might be let down from the times I run. I'd rather just think my car is faster than it really is.
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it was fun though. got about 12-15 runs in.
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60 ft time is good for stock in my opinion. wish i could test my car out, but the closest track to me has LOT's of rules and regulations. since my windows are completly tinted it says to not even bother coming down to try and race. there's a list of like 50 things your car can have and not have. :cussing: bastards.
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it was fun though. got about 12-15 runs in.
holy shat! my car would break after run 5. if it makes it to the track.

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wish i could test my car out, but the closest track to me has LOT's of rules and regulations. since my windows are completly tinted it says to not even bother coming down to try and race. there's a list of like 50 things your car can have and not have.
dam i dont think even cali tracks are that bad. dam with rules like that, i wonder how people wonder why people streetrace. at least undercover people dont go to your track and get your license plate number down and then send cops to your house to do underhood inspections.
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damn your 60' was terrible, no offense intended. you just wern't getting any traction
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For the first time at the track that's not bad.
that 60' on an open diff is ok.
Also remember that weather conditions play a big factor in how you run.
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it was fun though. got about 12-15 runs in.
What was your cooling doing period? did you have any? did you let the car sit for awhile before you went up? what about tire psi?

All those are factors when at the track. but yeah your 60 really isnt that great.
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oh i definately had no traction, but i had a lil more w/ the burnouts. they made everyone go through the water...

lets see, that run was the only time i really gave the car a cooling period, and i need a manual fan switch bad, tire psi for rear was around 45 hot. i need a new diff thats for sure. next on the list
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oh i definately had no traction, but i had a lil more w/ the burnouts. they made everyone go through the water...

lets see, that run was the only time i really gave the car a cooling period, and i need a manual fan switch bad, tire psi for rear was around 45 hot. i need a new diff thats for sure. next on the list
They made everyone go through the pit? Sounds like the track is run by a bunch of morons. everyone knows it is a must to avoid the pit with street tires. It will create an unsafe environment because you do not get all of the water off your tires which will only spread down track. Down track water, high HP drag cars...can become bad in a hurry. I am guessing there weren't many street tire cars with 60' times at 2.0 or less.

And 45 psi on your tires? Wow, no wonder you had traction issues. Mine will be around 20-22 psi tonight when I go to the track. Hopefully that helps my traction woes.
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oh i definately had no traction, but i had a lil more w/ the burnouts. they made everyone go through the water...

lets see, that run was the only time i really gave the car a cooling period, and i need a manual fan switch bad, tire psi for rear was around 45 hot. i need a new diff thats for sure. next on the list
Oh ouch your not suppuse to go through the water box, should have at least reversed into to it for just your rears.

damn 45 psi sheesh dude no wonder. its suppuse to be alot lower. anywhere from 18-22 psi should do the trick.
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Re: First legit drag trip

if you HAVE to go through the water box, just do a quick tire spin to kick the water off

Atco raceway (one of the nation's highest rated by one of the N*RA groups.. Has 2 'garage' style doors before their track.. one per lane, no way around 'em and the water pit right under 'em... it's been that way as long as I can remember.. I'm not gonna argue, the track is close, cheap and fun..

I've gotten gobs of traction on stock tires both the 89 and 02 just gotta kick the water off the tires...

2.55 is **** man, no offense, my first run in the 89 I ran a 16.2@88 MPH because I couldn't get traction (2.6 60') and missed third lol..
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On street radials try not to go in the water at all.
Also a big burnout will make traction worse. All you need to do is spin them just enough to clean them off.
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thats wierd be/c i was getting 2.2 60' all night on stock pressure
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ah well i hadn't lowered my pressure from auto-x on sunday and i forgot about those factors. and ya i just kicked the water off, nothing big. the problem is soo many people were doing big burnouts on their drags they said '**** it, everyone goes in water haha they will all suck now'

so i'll remember that for next time
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thats wierd be/c i was getting 2.2 60' all night on stock pressure
But is stock pressure 45 psi? I know my tires street recommended pressure is 32 psi. My stock F1's were something like 32-35 psi. 45 psi seems quite high.

I used to cut 2.0-2.2 60's in my GT on Nitto street radials at "stock" pressure. But, when I dropped the pressure I was able to hit 1.8-1.9 times.

Needless to say, I will be running 20-22 psi tonight on my first run. If I have a tone of tire spin, I will definitely be hitting the 18 mark.
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your 60ft times are horrible... but for your first time they are ok. Go back have some more fun and get them down to 2.2 to 2.3s and shave off .4~ from your times easy.
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But is stock pressure 45 psi? I know my tires street recommended pressure is 32 psi. My stock F1's were something like 32-35 psi. 45 psi seems quite high.

I used to cut 2.0-2.2 60's in my GT on Nitto street radials at "stock" pressure. But, when I dropped the pressure I was able to hit 1.8-1.9 times.

Needless to say, I will be running 20-22 psi tonight on my first run. If I have a tone of tire spin, I will definitely be hitting the 18 mark.
45 is good for autocross, but yah stock recommends 32 for even cobras.
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What mods do you have?

-Tire Pressure should be set around 20 psi in the rears, and around 40 in the front
-Be sure to take out any unnecessary items out of the car (spare tire, jack, etc)
-Have a fuel level of under 1/4 tank (I usually run with around an 1/8 or less)
-Make sure you cool down the car after every run...Whether you wait awhile before going back in the lanes or you put a bag of ice on the manifold, you need to keep the car cool to get your times lower.
-Traction Control off (if you have it), OD off

An ideal 60' time for you to shoot at would be a 2.3
I can't see you going anywhere under that unless you are running a great set of street tires or dr's, or if you have a posi rear. You could throw tons of money into engine work, but your 60' will still suck unless you can spread the power to both wheels.
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What mods do you have?
-Have a fuel level of under 1/4 tank (I usually run with around an 1/8 or less)
Damn, if I show up to the track with that much gas, I would only get 1 run in and run like **** as the gas would be sloshing around so bad the pickup would suck. lol

I ran tonight with just over 1/2 a tank. I ran 4 times. I left with just over a 1/4. lol. Now that I am home, I am right at a 1/4 (about 20 miles to get home).
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Damn, if I show up to the track with that much gas, I would only get 1 run in and run like **** as the gas would be sloshing around so bad the pickup would suck. lol

I ran tonight with just over 1/2 a tank. I ran 4 times. I left with just over a 1/4. lol. Now that I am home, I am right at a 1/4 (about 20 miles to get home).
I always have a gallon or 2 with me in a gas can for emergencies. You have to remember that our cars have 1 1/2 - 2 gallons reserve once the fuel light goes on. Raceway Park in Englishtown, NJ only gives you 3 runs (sometimes more based on the amount of people there), and I've never had to use the extra gas I've brought down. Could be different in your case if you get more than 4-5 runs.
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I always have a gallon or 2 with me in a gas can for emergencies. You have to remember that our cars have 1 1/2 - 2 gallons reserve once the fuel light goes on. Raceway Park in Englishtown, NJ only gives you 3 runs (sometimes more based on the amount of people there), and I've never had to use the extra gas I've brought down. Could be different in your case if you get more than 4-5 runs.
Plus I am running a supercharged, not so gas friendly, V8. lol. Mileage when going WOT is in the toilette. You can pretty much watch the needle go down.
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run your tires at the stock, recommended pressure

airing down street tires is retarded, it kills your contact patch

just spin through the water box untill the tires squeel a little bit, then they are clean and dry
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- haha set way too high in the rear
- everything was out to begin w/, as i don't run around w/ all that stuff usually
- fuel was like nearly full becuz there's like no places to fill near the track haha and its like a 2 hour drive
- definately didn't cool anything down or wait except for a few runs, including my best one which occured after a 20 minute break
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What mods do you have?

-Tire Pressure should be set around 20 psi in the rears, and around 40 in the front
-Be sure to take out any unnecessary items out of the car (spare tire, jack, etc)
-Have a fuel level of under 1/4 tank (I usually run with around an 1/8 or less)
-Make sure you cool down the car after every run...Whether you wait awhile before going back in the lanes or you put a bag of ice on the manifold, you need to keep the car cool to get your times lower.
-Traction Control off (if you have it), OD off

An ideal 60' time for you to shoot at would be a 2.3
I can't see you going anywhere under that unless you are running a great set of street tires or dr's, or if you have a posi rear. You could throw tons of money into engine work, but your 60' will still suck unless you can spread the power to both wheels.
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Guys i don't even reach drive none-the-less OD when i go down the strip so thats not a big deal
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i have went 50 miles after low fuel before with out hassel

I have filled up right after the light, it comes on at 12.8 gallons~ on my car so i still have a good bit left, around 2.5 gallons.
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Guys i don't even reach drive none-the-less OD when i go down the strip so thats not a big deal
If you're not hitting 3rd gear in a 1/4 mile then there's a problem...

And the reason why you switch OD off is because the computer tends to shift sooner than it has to when OD is on.
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i have went 50 miles after low fuel before with out hassel

I have filled up right after the light, it comes on at 12.8 gallons~ on my car so i still have a good bit left, around 2.5 gallons.
ive done the same thing, but when you try to open it up, fuel sloshes away from the pickup, and you feel like an *** when its sputtering
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And the reason why you switch OD off is because the computer tends to shift sooner than it has to when OD is on.
Not at WOT.
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See, it is discussions like this that make me very much glad I have a manual...no matter how many times the auto police tell me an auto is better. lol.
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untill you miss a shift, then its "i knew i shoulda gotten an automatic car"

im much happier with a 5-speed in my car, everyone tells me ill grow out of it, i doubt it
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untill you miss a shift, then its "i knew i shoulda gotten an automatic car"

im much happier with a 5-speed in my car, everyone tells me ill grow out of it, i doubt it

I never said that to myself when I missed a shift


Funny thing in the 02.. went from missing third with the steeda shifter to missing second.. I dunno why, must have just been my angles
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I have one of each.
The 5-spd is a blast to drive & the auto is dead-on consistant at the track.
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Yeah, but us autos will stomp yall in some bracket racing.
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See, it is discussions like this that make me very much glad I have a manual...no matter how many times the auto police tell me an auto is better. lol.

see, if you would have just gotten that automatic cobra that guy asked you about friday, then you wouldnt have had a problem





and yeah, i wish i had a manual now......my first truck was a manual and i sweared my next car would be an auto b/c in bumper to bumper traffic, its not that fun......now i wish i would have stayed with a manual. but oh well, the programmer makes the auto a helluva lot more fun now
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