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Old 09-14-2005, 09:53 PM   #1
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one nation under GOD

one nation under GOD says it all heres a read was on the 10:00 news tonite http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/na...AMo0BuvVbraZbw
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http://www.conflictingviews.com/foru...o=newpost&t=63

I am happy to see both sides of the aisle deciding that this is the biggest problem with the US right now.
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with the tragedy that just happned and me getting surgery, this should be the last thing on peoples mind's.
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Re: one nation under GOD

one of the downsides of freedom and rights.. idiots get it too.
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What I do not understand is how we can call ourselves a "Free Country" if we limit freedom to certain groups? Gays for example....
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What I do not understand is how we can call ourselves a "Free Country" if we limit freedom to certain groups? Gays for example....
as for gays my best guess would be the " god made adam and eve not adam and steve " line , though im wrong with that its the only thing i can come up with.
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as for gays my best guess would be the " god made adam and eve not adam and steve " line , though im wrong with that its the only thing i can come up with.
You can not use Religion to debate politics.

You are basing a reason for which two people can not have the same rights as you and me on a religous view that is not shared with everyone in this country.

They should be given the same rights as you and me period. This is a free country is it not?
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oh i agree with you. what i said up there about religion is the only thing that would make sense although it doesnt work that way. everything else said as to why they arent given the same right are just a bunch of bull**** excuses that arent logical what so ever
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^ That is what I thought you meant but I was not sure
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Basically what "freedom" means is everybody thinks that everybody should agree with them, and if they don't they don't get freedom.

America is free as long as you're me.
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Re: one nation under GOD

I watched this on O'Reily last night, he talked to this guy who was against the idea of having the "Under God" taken OUT of the pledge. He said "These people have been doing this ever since it was written, and they've made no progress in getting it changed. They have been losing very many cases, and they are going to lose many many more."
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I watched this on O'Reily last night, he talked to this guy who was against the idea of having the "Under God" taken OUT of the pledge. He said "These people have been doing this ever since it was written, and they've made no progress in getting it changed. They have been losing very many cases, and they are going to lose many many more."
Should they be losing?

Lets say that this is actually the most important thing that we could be discussing right now and all our other major problems are gone....

Should they lose the battle to get "under God" removed from a Government run program etc etc?

http://www.conflictingviews.com/foru...24&postcount=6

A much more indepth look at my views on this
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The way I see it, let's worry about other things before the ACLU pulls out of their "You hate blacks" stand in NO and head to washington to fight this. We have to nuke NO first to take them out..duh
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EhhhhhH.
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the USA will fall, just like the soviet Union...

its only a matter of time, the US worrys to much on stupid **** and not one what it needs to.
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Because we're communist and in the middle of a cold war...
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as for gays my best guess would be the " god made adam and eve not adam and steve " line , though im wrong with that its the only thing i can come up with.
Hey leave Steve out of this! he just had surgery!

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You can not use Religion to debate politics.

You are basing a reason for which two people can not have the same rights as you and me on a religous view that is not shared with everyone in this country.

They should be given the same rights as you and me period. This is a free country is it not?
If it was about rights then fine but a huge number of gays are using this as an in your face tactic. Heteros dont walk around using marriage in this way. If all it was about was equal protection under the law a civil union would suffice but they will not accept that because they want the word marriage associated with it. Forget the fact that marriage is a religious ceremony, of a religion that denounces homosexuality none the less, that has existed for centuries before there ever was a US.
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If it was about rights then fine but a huge number of gays are using this as an in your face tactic.
I agree with you 100% but those that are not using this as a in your face tactic do deserve these rights.

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Heteros dont walk around using marriage in this way. If all it was about was equal protection under the law a civil union would suffice but they will not accept that because they want the word marriage associated with it. Forget the fact that marriage is a religious ceremony, of a religion that denounces homosexuality none the less, that has existed for centuries before there ever was a US.
I do agree with that too.

I am saying they need equal rights, not Marriage
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