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Old 10-05-2005, 03:35 PM   #1
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this by god has to be the dumbest law ive ever heard of
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If someone breaks into my home and tries to steal my **** they should be dead.
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It has completely opened the door for some punk to shoot anyone and claim self defense. For example, they are purse snatching on some old lady. She clubs him with her cane. He shoots because he is protecting himself. We may not see a lot of change because of this law, but it sure does open the door for a lot of legal deaths.
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If someone breaks into my home and tries to steal my **** they should be dead.
Inside your home is one thing, but this new law also holds true for out in public. If someone feels threatened, they can shoot...if the dude is dead, how can you prove you didn't feel threatened? Hell, some skin head could say he felt threatened because he was surrounded by a bunch of cubans/blacks/insert other race here and shoot. Legal killing.
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gonna definitely get a lot of "thugs" with guns who feel they were threatened if somebody does something as little as bump into them by accident ahemkanyeahem
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gonna definitely get a lot of "thugs" with guns who feel they were threatened if somebody does something as little as bump into them by accident ahemkanyeahem
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this is horrible. i think this is going strait to CV
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Re: In Florida ? you could be shot

if the attacker is armed, then they should be allowed to shoot.

but as my dad's co-worker said "if someone breaks into my house, they are going down, no matter if they are armed or not, but I know for a fact the person will have a knife in their hand by the time the cops get there."
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thats just asking for trouble...
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ya this'll be interesting...
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eh, i don't see a problem with it really. Just don't talk to the locals.
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eh, i don't see a problem with it really. Just don't talk to the locals.
It won't just apply to locals, it will apply to anyone in florida. And it won't take any words to "feel threatened". Someone might step on your foot, or bump into you, or reach into their pocket. Lots and lots of room for interpretation since everyone feels threatened by different things. What about the fruits that feel threatened just when someone looks at them or is within 100 yards of them?
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they shouldn't be in public or have guns, haha, but that's sorta another problem.

I think as long as the law requires witnesses, it will be ok.
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they shouldn't be in public or have guns, haha, but that's sorta another problem.

I think as long as the law requires witnesses, it will be ok.
But, how does the whitness know whether the person felt threatened or not? The only person that can know for sure whether there was a feeling of threat is the person that felt it. This ranks right up there with the sexual discrimination stuff. There can be no defined set of rules as everything is open for interpretation by the individual party involved.
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But, how does the whitness know whether the person felt threatened or not? The only person that can know for sure whether there was a feeling of threat is the person that felt it. This ranks right up there with the sexual discrimination stuff. There can be no defined set of rules as everything is open for interpretation by the individual party involved.
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I like the new law myself !! Especialy since I had my gun rights reinstated Break into my house & I will shot to kill :rockets: thats is if my girl friend doesn't shot first She a detective for the sheriffs dept
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I like the new law myself !! Especialy since I had my gun rights reinstated Break into my house & I will shot to kill :rockets: thats is if my girl friend doesn't shot first She a detective for the sheriffs dept
See, you are missing half the point. The law isn't for just inside your home. Those that are saying "if someone is in my house I will shoot" are missing the rest of the law.

I agree with the home part. I would assume that most states have a law saying if someone is in your home you can shoot them. I don't know for sure who does and doesn't, but I know NY, TX, and LA all do. Cali I'm sure doesn't.

But, this law also means that anyone on the street can shoot you if you make them feel threatened. Bump into thug boy down the street, and he can shoot you. Walk towards a senile grandma with a group of 20 of your friends and she can start plinking you off thinking y'all are coming after her. This law is a bad, bad idea and very poorly constructed.
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I not missing the point I'm well aware of the extent of the law !!!!! Most legal gun owners aren't going to go around shooting people for bumping into them.
While the law is open to interpretation the interpretation that will matter is the cops or judges You still gotta prove it was a justified shooting
the thugs you speak of aren't carrying leagl weapons & if they shot someone they'll get screwed Fl has some of the toughest laws covering using a gun in the course of a crime
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See, you are missing half the point. The law isn't for just inside your home. Those that are saying "if someone is in my house I will shoot" are missing the rest of the law.

I agree with the home part. I would assume that most states have a law saying if someone is in your home you can shoot them. I don't know for sure who does and doesn't, but I know NY, TX, and LA all do. Cali I'm sure doesn't.

But, this law also means that anyone on the street can shoot you if you make them feel threatened. Bump into thug boy down the street, and he can shoot you. Walk towards a senile grandma with a group of 20 of your friends and she can start plinking you off thinking y'all are coming after her. This law is a bad, bad idea and very poorly constructed.
exactly.. and lets say you get shot because somebody feels threatened and you die.They arent gonna have proof you did this or you did that cause well your dead so they take his/her word for it
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While the law is open to interpretation the interpretation that will matter is the cops or judges You still gotta prove it was a justified shooting
While thugs may have issues having a gun, I disagree with the interpretation statement. A cop can not judge whether I feel threatened. A judge can not know what does and doesn't scare me. It is written exactly like sexual harrasment laws. It all depends on the person involved. No one other than yourself will know whether or not you felt threatened. The cops, judge, and the jury will have no way to say, beyond a shadow of a doubt, whether or not you felt threatened because they are not you.

On another site, they have a cop forum. In there, a good number of florida cops are all in disagreement with this law. They, too, believe that it will open the doors for a lot of legal killings. It is just a very poorly written law that I really hope does not get replicated elsewhere.
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If it happens Oh Well Poor me I rather have the weapon then not
And most of you are blowing this law out of proportion. The chances of the scenarios happening that you describe or the off the wall parallels your attempting to make are really humorous
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If it happens Oh Well Poor me I rather have the weapon then not
And most of you are blowing this law out of proportion. The chances of the scenarios happening that you describe or the off the wall parallels your attempting to make are really humorous
Off the wall parallels? How can you say that when the law has just went into effect? You underestimate the stupidity of Americans
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Thats very true I stand corrected
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This IS Florida, haha.

I don't think there will be as many horrible cases of unjustified shooting as people are thinking there will be.
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In response, Florida is planning "Survivor, florida Style." The contestants
will start in St.Pete, travel through Tampa to Orlando over to
Daytona beach and down to Keys. They will proceed up to Miami, on to
Boca, then to West palm, Palm beach, and Ft/Lauderdale. From there, they
proceed to clearwater, and on to largo and back to St.Pete.
Each will be driving a pink Volvo with a bumper sticker that reads, "I'm
gay, I voted for Al Gore, and I'm here to confiscate your guns."
The first one to make it back to St.Pete wins."
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