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Old 12-09-2005, 02:47 PM   #36
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Re: Mustang VS SRT-4

True... SRT-4s use the IRS setup so it has to be better than anything ever
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i think ford has leanred since they are NOT putting it in the new models comming out.
No, ford is cutting corners by putting the solid axel in the new ones. This chassis was designed with IRS in mind...yet they put the live axel in there. The old chassis that was designed for live axel, they put the IRS in there. Go figure. I know there a lot of very disappointed people knowing there won't be an IRS in the new cobra.

None the less, even in the 03/04s, the IRS can be, and has been, made to out perform any solid rear your could put in. A couple brackets here, some bushings there, and you have a completely different IRS.
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sure the cobra is a porky beast but remember that little thing called physics. An Srt-4 is front wheel drive=lots of wheel hop and bad 60ft times. the cobra will get up and go a lot better than that srt4 ever will. and the srt4 is turbo= high end hp not low end. a cobra gets boost at idle. and will continue to make boost all the way up. the only way srt4s beat cobras is when you see those videos of them doing 30-whatever mph. but from a dead stop, no chance for the srt-4.unless of course the driver of the cobra is a real dumb***.
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Re: Mustang VS SRT-4

I don't care if it's from a roll or a stop but the day i get walked by a neon i think i'd cry and re evaluate things.
and i know the power to wieght ratio is different but i can't think of anything more insulting then spending 30-40k and get beat by a 4 banger.
i can't wait till i can afford to build up my car on a low budget.
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Re: Mustang VS SRT-4

I've seen some of those videos too, but I've also seen Dodge Caravans smoke Corvettes like they were parked. The SRT-4's that can beat a 03/04 Cobra must be heavily modified because my buddy's 05 (which is supposed to be the fastest stock) is fast but it's not that fast. I know my Mom's car could beat him and it's not as fast as a Cobra.
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Re: Mustang VS SRT-4

"so you're telling me there's a chance?"


name that quote.........











































Dumb and Dumber *****es. hooray for no sleep and all night studying. :hammer:
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you gotta give me a chance to answer man!
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lol....sorry. i'm sooooo gone after not having enough sleep.
i didn't think anyone would catch on and be like "wtf is he talking about"
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if I have seen the movie, I will catch the line. plus I love that movie!
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awesome movie, im there with ya studying wise.
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neons (srt-4s are neons) are build from the hand of god and run 9s stock you have no chance, chuck norris drives and srt-4 neon if that tells you anything.
no way dude, only the almighty LS1 was built by god. the srt4 was built by gods homosexual castaways. god doesnt tangle in measly 4banger affairs. only satan tangles with teh 4banger, and he created the 4g63. DSM=Divine Satanic Machine 2:

and yeah, even a stock GT isnt much of a match for a srt4. the GT has a chance if its from a stop and the driver is really good, otherwise, even from a stop, it doesnt take long for the srt to reel in the kill.
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Re: Mustang VS SRT-4

i dont care if the turd runs 12s its fugly and I would rather have a slower car that looked good that that pile O crap
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Re: Mustang VS SRT-4

An SRT-4 pulled up next to me last night. He was pretty cool though, he was like "Nice mustang, just a six?" and I was like "yeah, nice neon, err, I mean SRT-4..."

He laughed and the light turned green. He didn't notice the light SO I KICKED HIS ***!
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^lol...i hate teh spoiler
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i dont care if the turd runs 12s its fugly and I would rather have a slower car that looked good that that pile O crap
werd. you could take a pile of ****, dress it up all pretty, make it really fast and what not, but at the end of the day, its still a pile of ****.
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^ and the majority of the guys in my auto class see me as the guy wasting my money on polishing a turd. Everybody is like "why even bother with the 6"

i just ignore them cuz they'll never see it my way and understand.
can't wait till i can afford to dig into my engine and catch them after class.

(and to prevent stupid comments which i know i'll get, i would do a H/C/I swap even if people didnt talk **** because i love the rush and adrenaline and learning about my engine.etc...)
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^ and the majority of the guys in my auto class see me as the guy wasting my money on polishing a turd. Everybody is like "why even bother with the 6"

i just ignore them cuz they'll never see it my way and understand.
can't wait till i can afford to dig into my engine and catch them after class.

(and to prevent stupid comments which i know i'll get, i would do a H/C/I swap even if people didnt talk **** because i love the rush and adrenaline and learning about my engine.etc...)
well thats good, cause even if your car sucked ***, looked like **** and was slow as piss, if you told me you did the work yourself and love doing it even if it sucks, that youre just learning, i would give you props, cause that kicks major ***. its people like you that do their own things that deserve to have a nice car. its people that have their "t00ner" shop do all their mods cause they cant even lift a screwdriver to save their life, and some huge stereo shop put their system together that suck ***. people like that who dont have enough skills and enough money to buy their 10 second dreams without doing any real work to their own car that give people like us a bad rep.

if you have pride in your own car and the work you put into it, thats a better than any quarter mile timeslip could give. and if you did a HCI i wouldnt talk ****, especially if you did it and loved the results, even if it cost quite a bit and still wasnt as good as this car or that car stock.
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a street race in an 03/04 cobra lol or bad track runs... they usually run mid 13s on average due to the POS IRS/ bad driver/ no traction/ etc with a good launch they can run very very good times.


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sure the cobra is a porky beast but remember that little thing called physics. An Srt-4 is front wheel drive=lots of wheel hop and bad 60ft times. the cobra will get up and go a lot better than that srt4 ever will. and the srt4 is turbo= high end hp not low end. a cobra gets boost at idle. and will continue to make boost all the way up. the only way srt4s beat cobras is when you see those videos of them doing 30-whatever mph. but from a dead stop, no chance for the srt-4.unless of course the driver of the cobra is a real dumb***.
Wow. Ive never seen so many generlizations in one post.

First off, front wheel drive doesnt equal wheel hop, or bad 60ft times. Crappy tires, worn bushings, bad motor mounts, or a crappy racing surface causes wheel hop, just like in a rear wheel drive car. On some surfaces, my TC wheel hops.

03/04 Cobra getting up better than an SRT4 ever will? Where did you get that information? That is all on the driver. Ive seen some SRT4's run 13.7's bone stock, and ive seen 15.80's bone stock. Those cars are capable of 13.7's, but its those idiots who dont know how to drive a front wheel drive car, let alone a turbo car, that give them that "they cant launch"

Id also like to know where you found the turbo=high end power. That proves that you really dont know much about turbos. I can have boost at launch with a proper launch, yes, i can launch with boost without a two step or any other launching device. The SRT4 turbo is actually set up for low end power, because its build to be able to have boost down low for every day driving. The problem with the average person is that they want to floor the car once they get it moving, you need to slip he clutch, boost comes in, hop off the clutch then floor it.

I guess also you didnt know how the Eaton blowers are known for not making the best high end power either. The only reason that they create boost so soon is because theyre based off of engine RPM, not engine load.

Dead stop, a good driver in an SRT4 will do much more than you expect. Learn a little about them, and you might actually be suprised. There has been a few 550whp, daily driver SRT4's out there. A little bit more power than the Viper, with less than half the cylinders. A little bit more power than the Z06 with half the cylinders.
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lol a srt4 vs a cobra? thats not even a fair challenge. the cobra would decimate it without going over 4Krpm and launching like a normal day to day take off.

btw, **** fwd.
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lol a srt4 vs a cobra? thats not even a fair challenge. the cobra would decimate it without going over 4Krpm and launching like a normal day to day take off.

btw, **** fwd.
yeah...comepletely decimate it. Just like how ive witnessed cobra's running 14's at the track. Decimation at its finest.

Dont be mad at FWD because you couldnt drive it.
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yeah...comepletely decimate it. Just like how ive witnessed cobra's running 14's at the track. Decimation at its finest.

Dont be mad at FWD because you couldnt drive it.
Sorry but stock for stock the Cobra is the winner by a long shot
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ive outrun many cars on the street that should have totally destroyed me, go to the track, theyre turning 13's
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Dont be mad at FWD because you couldnt drive it.
man, id pay you people to try to get even a 2.2 60ft in my gst.

btw, whats your 60ft anyways? oh yeah, i bet its crap, but thats cause "everyone has trouble launching a big *** TC".
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man, id pay you people to try to get even a 2.2 60ft in my gst.

btw, whats your 60ft anyways? oh yeah, i bet its crap, but thats cause "everyone has trouble launching a big *** TC".
uh oh, dsm kid vs. tc boy, this could get interesting. why do these things get so out of hand? we all know everyone has a bigger e-dick than everyone else, why must we always try to e-prove it? This e-fighting is getting e-diculous!
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*Checks thread title* Yep, nothing about who can launch a FWD vehichle better.

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uh oh, dsm kid vs. tc boy, this could get interesting. why do these things get so out of hand? we all know everyone has a bigger e-dick than everyone else, why must we always try to e-prove it? This e-fighting is getting e-diculous!
actually, you should hear the convo's we have over aol. i dont take it personal, just bickering we got, me and tbird talk on aim sometimes, and its quite refreshing to hear his side of things.

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*Checks thread title* Yep, nothing about who can launch a FWD vehichle better.
eh, kinda. since srt4 are fwd, and were talking about racing one, launching one isnt far off topic, and since the srt4 and fwd dsm are so close in comparison, its only natural for me.

back to topic. srt4 are gay

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Track, yes

street, not always

ive outrun many cars on the street that should have totally destroyed me, go to the track, theyre turning 13's
i think he's meaning with equal drivers though.........if a stock srt4 outruns a stock cobra, then he beat the driver, not the car.
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man, id pay you people to try to get even a 2.2 60ft in my gst.

btw, whats your 60ft anyways? oh yeah, i bet its crap, but thats cause "everyone has trouble launching a big *** TC".
I actually did have a hard time launching my TC, because a 3800 pound car is easy to bog, which i did for all 3 passes ive made at the track.

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i think he's meaning with equal drivers though.........if a stock srt4 outruns a stock cobra, then he beat the driver, not the car.
Im trying to say, that on the street, track times, horsepower, torque, and all the specifications you could imagine mean nothing. Sure you could cut a 1.7 60ft at the track in your 03 cobra, but it doesnt mean youre going to hook on the oily street. Sure your SRT4 only cut a 2.2 60ft at the track and didnt have much torque, but it would most likely hook better than an 03 Cobra, and by the time the cobra finally hooks, the race could be over.

Ive gotten a 2 car launch on a LS1 car, because i hooked and he didnt. I probably make 120 less ft/lbs, and probably 160 less horsepower.
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dude o3' cobras will smoke srt's. Now imagine if you put a turbo on a cobra.
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Track, yes

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ive outrun many cars on the street that should have totally destroyed me, go to the track, theyre turning 13's
yet another of the many reasons why running on the street i not a true measure of performance (and stupid)
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Spec, you are soooo against street racing which is a really good thing. I heard down hear in L.A. if you get caught street racing, they destroy your car in front of you. Now imagine watching your investment getting destroyed, or the innocent lives that can be taken. When I race at the track it makes me not want to street race. My friend still wont meet me at the track with his boost controlled wrx. He calls me a *****, but I think he is, since he wont show up.




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Spec, you are soooo against street racing which is a really good thing. I heard down hear in L.A. if you get caught street racing, they destroy your car in front of you.
i dont think so. you really think the bank that actually "owns" the car(if youre financing) is going to like the idea of the "authorities" destroying their car? huge lawsuit, cause i wouldnt give any more payments on my car if the cops torch it, i wouldnt give a **** about my credit score at that point anyways. so whos the bank going to go after next? my parents dont have any part in my mustang, so the bank now is going to go after the cops for destroying the car over a petty race.

and i seriously think spec is against streetracing cause he knows 98% of the time hell lose, and even that 2% hes scared of the possibilities he might lose as well
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