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Old 12-12-2005, 06:01 PM   #36
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I was try to say: We are going to BBQ your ***. What do you see????2:
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Re: What's your take on Tookie?

Personally Im not against the death penalty, but Id rather leave the bastards in jail all their life with no chance of parrol (sp?). I dont mind the fact that someones executed to pay for their crime, but I feel its almost an easy way out in some cases. Personally I think the guy should sit in solitary for the rest of his life only getting bread/water and see how he feels about himself then.

Another reason Im for the prison thing is its cheaper to leave someone in jail all their life rather then execute them, and of course as I said earlier, death seems like a way out to me.
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Another reason Im for the prison thing is its cheaper to leave someone in jail all their life rather then execute them, and of course as I said earlier, death seems like a way out to me.
Actually, I did my senior thesis on the death penalty...and in NY, it costs the tax payers 45k per year per inmate. This is just basic room and board and does not include any college and **** they do for fun. The typical death row/lifer will remain in prison for upwards of 20-30+ years. To electrocute someone, it costs approximately 120k...one time fee. So, kill them all it will save a ton of money.

I should break out my thesis to get the actual numbers, but I don't feel like it until someone calls BS on me.
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Actually, I did my senior thesis on the death penalty...and in NY, it costs the tax payers 45k per year per inmate. This is just basic room and board and does not include any college and **** they do for fun. The typical death row/lifer will remain in prison for upwards of 20-30+ years. To electrocute someone, it costs approximately 120k...one time fee. So, kill them all it will save a ton of money.

I should break out my thesis to get the actual numbers, but I don't feel like it until someone calls BS on me.
OMFG such BS!
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how the **** does it cost 100k to hook someone up to the power grid and let em have it?

****ing idiots, a shotgun blast to the head only costs 250 bucks, 245 for the shotgun+tax and 25c for a cartridge. god i hate our judicial system.
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Re: What's your take on Tookie?

it cost more to keep them in jail. That's how it is for San Quentin.
If we pay for their *** they should be making roads or doing something to bennefit the tax payers. ( in some states they do but it's not enough)

why should we spend a million dollars or more on a convict getting life in prison without parole? That money can be used for people who deserve it but that's a whole other debate and topic.
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Re: What's your take on Tookie?

It doesnt cost more to keep them in jail, it just doesnt. Its not the actual cost of throwing someone in a chair or sticking an IV in someone, its the fact that the average person on death row will have roughly 30 or more appeals. Having that many appeals costs a lot of money in the respect to court costs and what the judge costs. On top of that, these skeez bags more than likely dont have a private attorney so of course the government has to fund that... Add all that up, multiply it by 30 or more, and ON AVERAGE it will cost more to kill the bastards than it does to leave them in jail for 70 years.
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ding dong Tookie is dead

at 12:35AM he was given lethal injection.

Here's what Arnold said about it:

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Arnold Schwarzenegger denied Williams' request for clemency, suggesting that his supposed change of heart was not genuine because he had not shown any real remorse for the killings committed by the Crips.

"Is Williams' redemption complete and sincere, or is it just a hollow promise?" Schwarzenegger wrote. "Without an apology and atonement for these senseless and brutal killings, there can be no redemption."

Arnold friggin rules :thumbsup
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so in essence, Tookie has been "terminated", his life, "erased"
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Im gonna have to at that.
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I'll pay the extra in my taxes to send him to hell



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It doesnt cost more to keep them in jail, it just doesnt. Its not the actual cost of throwing someone in a chair or sticking an IV in someone, its the fact that the average person on death row will have roughly 30 or more appeals. Having that many appeals costs a lot of money in the respect to court costs and what the judge costs. On top of that, these skeez bags more than likely dont have a private attorney so of course the government has to fund that... Add all that up, multiply it by 30 or more, and ON AVERAGE it will cost more to kill the bastards than it does to leave them in jail for 70 years.
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I ****ing hate california.

While waiting for my idiot art teacher to get his *** to class, I was outside in the cold with the rest of the students. I overheard these 3 girls and a woman talking about Tookie's execution. The woman was like "Well he was guilty, but that's just what the jury said. I think he was innocent and blah blah blah" She went on talking about how Tookie never admitted to killing those people in court, and how he changed when he was in prison and deserved not to die.

I was ready to snap at them, but I didn't want any MORE enemies at school. ****ing Kerry voting pricks.
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I wonder what would have happened had Grey or whomever preceded Arnie was still governor
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I wonder what would have happened had Grey or whomever preceded Arnie was still governor
Tookie would have still died.
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It doesnt cost more to keep them in jail, it just doesnt. Its not the actual cost of throwing someone in a chair or sticking an IV in someone, its the fact that the average person on death row will have roughly 30 or more appeals. Having that many appeals costs a lot of money in the respect to court costs and what the judge costs. On top of that, these skeez bags more than likely dont have a private attorney so of course the government has to fund that... Add all that up, multiply it by 30 or more, and ON AVERAGE it will cost more to kill the bastards than it does to leave them in jail for 70 years.
that's why we need to give them the death penalty, and the next day plug them in, and be done with it!

this crap where they live 20 years before they actually have to have thier sentence is crazy
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It doesnt cost more to keep them in jail, it just doesnt. Its not the actual cost of throwing someone in a chair or sticking an IV in someone, its the fact that the average person on death row will have roughly 30 or more appeals. Having that many appeals costs a lot of money in the respect to court costs and what the judge costs. On top of that, these skeez bags more than likely dont have a private attorney so of course the government has to fund that... Add all that up, multiply it by 30 or more, and ON AVERAGE it will cost more to kill the bastards than it does to leave them in jail for 70 years.
dude our family friends do work for San Quentin. It's a big *** prison over here in Cali. It cost $30,000+ a year for each individual inmate.
Add that up and it'll cost more to keep them in prison.
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that's why we need to give them the death penalty, and the next day plug them in, and be done with it!

this crap where they live 20 years before they actually have to have thier sentence is crazy
Better to let a guilty man live another 20 years than to kill an innocent man quickly. We must allow for the possibility of false conviction; thus we must give opportunity to disprove the conviction, as provided by law. After you kill him, you can't shove him back into the world and say, "Sorry, chap, our bad."


My take on Tookie? He dead.
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somebody has to say this : DING -DONG THE BICH IS DEAD!!!!!!!

sorry seph my bad should have known.

now if we could only get rid of the backlog of worthless crap in our penal system
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Better to let a guilty man live another 20 years than to kill an innocent man quickly. We must allow for the possibility of false conviction; thus we must give opportunity to disprove the conviction, as provided by law. After you kill him, you can't shove him back into the world and say, "Sorry, chap, our bad."


My take on Tookie? He dead.
But if the death penalty was a reality and not some lame *** 20+ year ordeal, it might have more of an affect. So a few innocents die....if it gets the message across that if you are sentenced to death you are walked out and shot it would be worth it in my opinion. It might just convince a few people not to go and kill someone. This whole 20 years or more before your turn in line comes up is rediculous.
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somebody has to say this : DING -DONG THE BICH IS DEAD!!!!!!!

sorry seph my bad should have known.

now if we could only get rid of the backlog of worthless crap in our penal system
known what?
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"the ding dong he's dead" thing didnt see you post it first
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I did?

lol I dont think I did.. you get full credit
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see post #43 lol but thankx lol
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TOOKIE IS TOAST SO THIS IS RATHER A MOOT SUBJECT!!! LETS MOVE ON TO MORE PRESSING MATTERS
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OK MR (MRS) ESTERHOUSE LET'S LOCK THIS PIG UP!!

its done
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