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Old 12-26-2005, 07:46 PM   #1
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Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

Well I am going to sell the car and get me a GT. That is pretty much set in stone.

I know for a fact this is what I am looking for:

Black exterior
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I will not settle for anything less than the above. The paint will need to be a in great condition as well the interior. The lower the miles the better. My max price is 6500 dollars

So what are the pros and cons of each motor? 5.0 or 4.6 is the question
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

try looking for a 99 gt, just save up some more money. Are you in desperate need of a new car? wait a bit and get a 99 gt
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try looking for a 99 gt, just save up some more money. Are you in desperate need of a new car? wait a bit and get a 99 gt
I like the 94-98 body style better
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

The 5.0 is definitely a cheaper engine to mod...at least from what I've seen. The modular motors just look they're more expensive.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

I say 5.0, but I'm a little biased. But if you're set on a 94-98, I'd definitely say 5.0, for several reasosn:
  1. Faster stock (compared to 96-98's)
  2. Cheaper to mod
  3. Easier to work with
  4. More people are familiar with a Windsor than a mod motor (easier to find someone to swap heads, cam, etc.)
  5. An aftermarket that has any part you could possibly want, from mild to wild
Last but not least, you get that classic 5.0 sound.

Good luck with the search for a black-on-black five speed. They can be tough to find. A black car with well-maintained paint is even more difficult.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

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I say 5.0, but I'm a little biased. But if you're set on a 94-98, I'd definitely say 5.0, for several reasosn:
  1. Faster stock (compared to 96-98's)
  2. Cheaper to mod
  3. Easier to work with
  4. More people are familiar with a Windsor than a mod motor (easier to find someone to swap heads, cam, etc.)
  5. An aftermarket that has any part you could possibly want, from mild to wild
Last but not least, you get that classic 5.0 sound.

Good luck with the search for a black-on-black five speed. They can be tough to find. A black car with well-maintained paint is even more difficult.
I am leaning more toward the 5.0 than anything else.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

5.0...easier to work on, cheaper to work on,respond better to mods.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

like bbunt said, good luck finding a black on black 5spd car...damn near impossible..was for me anyway.

the 87-91.5 5.0s are a better bet then the 91.5-95s as they have 225hp compared to like 215-205hp. Parts are dirt cheap, easy enough to do yourself.
and the fox 5.0s will out run a 96-98 mod motor stock for stock anyday. no the foxes might not be the best in the looks department but they make up for with simple bolt ons to run very nice.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

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like bbunt said, good luck finding a black on black 5spd car...damn near impossible..was for me anyway.

the 87-91.5 5.0s are a better bet then the 91.5-95s as they have 225hp compared to like 215-205hp. Parts are dirt cheap, easy enough to do yourself.
and the fox 5.0s will out run a 96-98 mod motor stock for stock anyday. no the foxes might not be the best in the looks department but they make up for with simple bolt ons to run very nice.
Couldn't of said that better myself. and I personally love the look of them.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

I ain't buying anything but a 94-98 Besides the 94-95 have as the 5.0 in it anyways and just as big aftermarket

I don't care for the fox that much and I dont like the 99+ as much as I like the 94-98
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

Hence the reason he keeps saying he is looking for a 94-98, trust me, brent has his mind set on that body style.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

I dont know what the stock 94-95 gt 5spd runs in the 1/4, but I do know the 96-98 5spd runs a 14.9 stock while foxbody's stock run low 15's. I personally would go with the mod motor. I like the sound better and its a very reliable motor. Harder to work on yes, but change out just a few basic parts and it'll be running with the 99+ gt's.

So my vote is for 96-98. Brent if you need my help locating one you know how to reach me lol.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

I don't think many ppl know what the stock 94-95 gt 5spd runs in the 1/2 either....
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

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I don't think many ppl know what the stock 94-95 gt 5spd runs in the 1/2 either....



I dunno I am still leaning towards the 5.0... I guess if I find a Black/Black 5-Speed in great condition and its a 96-98 I will jump on it..
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i vote modular. aftermarket strokers can be had for them also
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

How 'bout this:

Find a pre-`99 (since you like that body style) with crazy mileage (so it'll go for cheap) that still has no body problems. Then buy our 5.0 motor.......
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I don't think many ppl know what the stock 94-95 gt 5spd runs in the 1/2 either....
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

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How 'bout this:

Find a pre-`99 (since you like that body style) with crazy mileage (so it'll go for cheap) that still has no body problems. Then buy our 5.0 motor.......
No! I am buying a car in great condition and I am not touching the engine

I want a car that runs the way its suppose to. I am not going to risk ****ing something up!
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

eh, 96-98 youll have to go with PI heads and cams to get to a 99-04 GT status. the 96-98 4.6 is just plain weak.

though with the same money youd put into making a 96-98 as quick as a 99-04GT, you could make a 94-95 5.0 a bit faster than a lightly modded 99-04.

if it were me and i really wanted the body style though, i would look for either though, if a nice 5.0 comes, get it. if a nice 4.6 comes, pick it up. the 5.0 is really easy to mod, heads, cam, intake, exhaust, gears, cause out of the box the 96-98 4.6 isnt anything to brag about, and engine parts are more expensive, unless you go with used PI stuff and get that worked on.
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^^ that is true, but if you regear/intake/programmer on a 5spd 96-98 gt it'll run pretty close to a 99+. Biggest thing is its going to be hard to find a decent 94-98 gt under 6500. Most likely you could find one with right around 100k miles with good interior and pretty good exterior, but in order to get what you want you'd probably have to spend closer to 8k.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

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I dont know what the stock 94-95 gt 5spd runs in the 1/4, but I do know the 96-98 5spd runs a 14.9 stock while foxbody's stock run low 15's. I personally would go with the mod motor. I like the sound better and its a very reliable motor. Harder to work on yes, but change out just a few basic parts and it'll be running with the 99+ gt's.

So my vote is for 96-98. Brent if you need my help locating one you know how to reach me lol.
thats prally right...the only thing slower then the 96-98 4.6 is the 94-95 5.0. although it would be a close race the damn car weights alot and the 5.0 have little/no upper rpm horsepower, thats where the 4.6 loves it. id just throw in a new h/c/i on the 5.0 and outrun the 4.6s all day if it was me
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thats prally right...the only thing slower then the 96-98 4.6 is the 94-95 5.0. although it would be a close race the damn car weights alot and the 5.0 have little/no upper rpm horsepower, thats where the 4.6 loves it. id just throw in a new h/c/i on the 5.0 and outrun the 4.6s all day if it was me
My next mustang i've already decided will be a foxbody 5.0 for the simple fact they are cheap and easy to mod. This will be a ways down the line though. Either when i'm done with school or I can spare the 3k for a decent one.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

I still think a 94-95 GT will out run a 96-98 GT if they're both stock with good drivers. Anybody on here have one? We'll line 'em up! :drive:

Another option you may want to consider, especially since you seem to not really want to get in to serious engine mods, is a 96-98 Cobra. They'll be slightly out of your price range (probably around 10k), but the money you'll save versus modding the other cars to get similar power may be worth it. The 4V 4.6 is a very nice motor, 305 hp stock (I think, around there anyway). Not to mention the better brakes, suspension, etc. Just a thought.
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I still think a 94-95 GT will out run a 96-98 GT if they're both stock with good drivers. Anybody on here have one? We'll line 'em up! :drive:

Another option you may want to consider, especially since you seem to not really want to get in to serious engine mods, is a 96-98 Cobra. They'll be slightly out of your price range (probably around 10k), but the money you'll save versus modding the other cars to get similar power may be worth it. The 4V 4.6 is a very nice motor, 305 hp stock (I think, around there anyway). Not to mention the better brakes, suspension, etc. Just a thought.
Actually i'm pretty sure that the 94-95 gt is still in the 15's. Because they took the same 5.0 that was in the 93 and put it in a heavier body. So i'm betting a 5spd in that year will probably be in a mid-low 15 since stock 5.0's in the fox were around 15.5's.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

Actually, I've seen stock 5.0 coupes run a 13.9. A convertible 5.0 with an AOD and a decent to not-so-great driver may run a mid 15, but a coupe or hatch with a 5 speed should easily be in the mid 14s.

Of course, the main reason they are faster is weight (plus some minor differences in the motor that made them ever so slightly more powerful than the 94-95s). So a 94-95 will probably run neck and neck with a 96-98, but if I was a betting man I'd still put my money on the 5.0. It'd probably come down to a driver's race.
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Actually, I've seen stock 5.0 coupes run a 13.9. A convertible 5.0 with an AOD and a decent to not-so-great driver may run a mid 15, but a coupe or hatch with a 5 speed should easily be in the mid 14s.

Of course, the main reason they are faster is weight (plus some minor differences in the motor that made them ever so slightly more powerful than the 94-95s). So a 94-95 will probably run neck and neck with a 96-98, but if I was a betting man I'd still put my money on the 5.0. It'd probably come down to a driver's race.
Your right it probably would be a drivers race. I'm still more of a fan of the 4.6 in that bodystyle(i'm biased just like you lol) but no matter what they are both great motors with the right tweaking.
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theres aan 94 5.0 for sale that needs little work for 2k.....im go look at it, if only i had 2k
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i say 96 to 98, but i am biased. a thing to look out for though is the intake manifold. just had to replace mine for the crack in the thermostat housing.
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

I have owned 3 mustangs. A 90 saleen, 88GT convertible with roll cage & my black 01GT. I hate the interior sound of the 5.0's. Too much ratteling. If you had to get a five oh, I would get a 93 cobra. My friend has all maximum motor sports suspension & bassani catback, & cai. He ran a 14.9 at lacr which is a 14.4 & I ran a 14.8 which is a 14.3. If he had the 3:27 gears like mine has stock. i think he would of beat me.

Bottom line its all up to you. But I know 99-04 GT's get way better gas mileage, handle better, brake better, & most importantly the interior doesnt sound like its braking. I think the 99-04GT's last alot longer too, with less maintence.

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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

its all about what you want. The 5.0 is the modifying motor lol its cheap to modify, runs good, easy to work on, etc etc. I personally would go that route. The 4.6 in 96-98's were rather slow, more expensive, harder to work on, and slower all around.... I would stick with a 5.0 but thats just me.

Its NOT going to be easy to find one, but you eventually can if you hang in there. I dont think i would do black cuz that will be VERY HARD to find in good shape. So you may want to look for another color as well and take what you find first, you never know what will come up.
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96-98 GT runs 15.2-15.4's in manual with an average driver, add a half second for an auto... the 94-95 gts are a bit quicker with a 15.0-15.1 average, add a half second for an auto. Thats average of coruse.... not bad and easy to improve on i guess.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:36 PM   #35
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Re: Should I pick up a 5.0 or go Modular with 96-98 Gt's?

Ya also remember that the 99-04 GT's have different gears, heads and cams than the 96-98's. So if you did all that to a 96-98 it would be just as fast if not faster. I know when you do a pi head/cam swap on a 96-98 you get more hp b/c it has higher compression. If i had to go with a 5.0 I would wait for the thing to blow up & put a 331, 342, or a 347 in it. It is alot cheaper to build it then a modular. Plus you can have 350-400 n/a hp. but I just hate the sound of the interior. Just dont get a vert. Ford had the worst design then.
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