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Old 03-28-2006, 02:30 PM   #1
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Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company

Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government.
Chavez, president of Venezuela, told a TV audience: "Enough of imperialist aggression;
we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century."

The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela, was Cindy Sheehan,
the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called
President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world."

Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban
dictator Fidel Castro.

Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq, the issue here is that we have
a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S. And he is
using our money to achieve his goal!

The Venezuela government, run by dictator Chavez, sole owner of Citgo gas co.
Sales of products at Citgo stations send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow
to bring down our government.

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Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Link to an article about this?
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Sounds like BS to me.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

hmm.. not sure if its true or not but ill play it safe and avoid citgos anyways. i mean, with the amount of gas stations around its easy to pass one up.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

I'm getting the article link But here's a link to Citgo Check the ownership http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Yeh...my family has had a citgo acount for years...we just cancelled it and we are moving to another company. Pretty crazy stuff...but I guess all we can do is try and run them out of business....then nuke them and keep the oil as a booty lol
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

This is from the Citgo website

The CITGO Years


In 1965, Cities Service Company changed its marketing brand to CITGO. The well-known green and white logo evolved into the CITGO "Trimark" logo of today, a symbol of continuing innovation and quality. In the 1990s, CITGO was purchased by Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA), the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. CITGO is based in Houston, Texas, and continues to be a leading refiner, transporter and marketer of transportation fuels, lubricants, petrochemicals, refined waxes, asphalt and other industrial products. Servicing cities to serving the

So Petróleos de Venezuela does own it and that is close enough to me.

Citgo is out for me!!!!
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I never used Citgo to begin with
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Don't guess it really effects me, anyway. I don't even know where a nearby Citgo gas station is...much less ever get gas there.

I was calling BS on the sensationalism and the Cindy Sheehan being on a Venezualian TV show with the dictator. I'm not a big fan of hers, but surely she isn't that retarded. Maybe I jumped the gun, so if somebody has a reputable link (no NewsMax) about it...link me up.
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Don't guess it really effects me, anyway. I don't even know where a nearby Citgo gas station is...much less ever get gas there.

I was calling BS on the sensationalism and the Cindy Sheehan being on a Venezualian TV show with the dictator. I'm not a big fan of hers, but surely she isn't that retarded. Maybe I jumped the gun, so if somebody has a reputable link (no NewsMax) about it...link me up.
I posted just above right out of the Citgo website


http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp
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I posted just above right out of the Citgo website


http://www.citgo.com/AboutCITGO.jsp
I don't question that. I want to see Cindy Sheehan being interviewed by a Venezualean (however you spell that) dictator.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

If the dictator of Venezuela does indeed plan to bring us down, I wish him all the luck in the world because God knows he's gonna need it.

Can anybody really be that stupid?
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

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go there to see that idiot woman in Chavez's arms. Im sure Casey Sheehan would be very proud at what a psycho his mom turned out to be if he were still alive. She might as well pick up a gun and join the insurgency in Iraq, thats how much of a traitor she is. Chavez is one of the U.S's biggest enemies. Let me emphasize he is a United States enemy, not just a Bush enemy. She has completely strayed from fighting Bush. Now she fights her own country.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

yeah there was an article on the sun sentinel about her, she was quoted as saying he was a great man of peace and a great leader. I will gladly volunteer to terminate chavez, anybody up for a Venezuelan vacation? and yes PDVSA does own Citgo.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

Cindy Sheehan has lost her damn mind
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It seems that she may be crazier than I ever imagined. I still haven't been able to find a transcript for the interview, or anything...but to even be caught in the same photo with that guy...sheesh...
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It seems that she may be crazier than I ever imagined. I still haven't been able to find a transcript for the interview, or anything...but to even be caught in the same photo with that guy...sheesh...

If you were to hear a few quotes from her, you would quickly realize that she is a friggin loon, just hell bent on getting attention.
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This isn't the first time that dictator has said these type things. He was put in power last year, and when Katrina hit CNN reported he said he would withhold oil until the price of gas reached somewhere north of 5.00 a gallon.
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

I say we send over 10 B-2 Stealth Bombers with B61-11 thermonuclear bombs and create a new state of Venasas
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Re: Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government

But he might take them out with his poison tipped arrows that he has threatened our military with. That he will "personally shoot them" (per Walton and Johnson). I bet that will make all our military shake in their boots.
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I say we send over 10 B-2 Stealth Bombers with B61-11 thermonuclear bombs and create a new state of Venasas
I believe a single shot between the eyes would be more swift. There are very good people in Venezuela
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its sad they know we wont do anything drastic so they do this crap be funny if the next day he was no where to be found with out a trace...
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I believe a single shot between the eyes would be more swift. There are very good people in Venezuela
No I would not bomb until I let everyone know in advance we were coming and they could get out.
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No I would not bomb until I let everyone know in advance we were coming and they could get out.
Well, it would be known in advance...I am sure all the news stations would ask the required questions:

"When are you going to bomb?"
"Where are you going to bomb?"
"What ordinance will you be dropping?"
"How long do you expect the bombing to last?"
"How many planes will you be using? Which ones? How many bombs each?"
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[QUOTE=Smurfin]Well, it would be known in advance...I am sure all the news stations would ask the required questions:

"When are you going to bomb?" SOON YOU HAVE 72 HOURS

"Where are you going to bomb?" ALL OVER SO YOU HAVE 71 hrs 55 min

"What ordinance will you be dropping?" AS STATED B61-11 THERMONUCLEAR BOMBS YOU NOW HAVE 71 hrs 50min.

"How long do you expect the bombing to last?" APPROX 11 min BY WHICH TIME THERE WILL BE LARGE MUSHROOM CLOUDS AND VIOLENT WINDS AND A WALL OF FIRE SPREADING OUT 50 miles FROM EACH BLAST. YOU NOW HAVE 71 min 47 min "

How many planes will you be using? Which ones? How many bombs each?"
etc There will be 10 B-2 STEALTH BOMBERS EACH CARRYING ONE B61-11 THERMONUCLEAR BOMBS YOU NOW HAVE 71 hrs 44 min.
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I wonder how much business he would lose if there was a nation-wide boycott. He can't be dumb enough to put himself out of business...
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"What ordinance will you be dropping?" AS STATED B61-11 THERMONUCLEAR BOMBS YOU NOW HAVE 71 hrs 50min.

"How long do you expect the bombing to last?" APPROX 11 min BY WHICH TIME THERE WILL BE LARGE MUSHROOM CLOUDS AND VIOLENT WINDS AND A WALL OF FIRE SPREADING OUT 50 miles FROM EACH BLAST. YOU NOW HAVE 71 min 47 min "
B61-11's wouldn't cause nearly that much damage. They're small yield "bunker-busting" bombs. Designed to penetrate and explode underground (to bust bunkers...). If you're really looking to do severe damage like that, you'd need high-yield air-burst weapons. A single Ohio class nuclear submarine would be much more effective. An Ohio class sub carries 24 Trident ICBM's, each with 5 Mk.5 re-entry vehicles. The Mk.5 holds a W88 warhead, rated at 450kt yield. You could air-burst it over civilian and military targets to do maximum damage. 120 air-bursts would pretty much devestate every commercial/military target in the country.
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B61-11's wouldn't cause nearly that much damage. They're small yield "bunker-busting" bombs. Designed to penetrate and explode underground (to bust bunkers...). If you're really looking to do severe damage like that, you'd need high-yield air-burst weapons. A single Ohio class nuclear submarine would be much more effective. An Ohio class sub carries 24 Trident ICBM's, each with 5 Mk.5 re-entry vehicles. The Mk.5 holds a W88 warhead, rated at 450kt yield. You could air-burst it over civilian and military targets to do maximum damage. 120 air-bursts would pretty much devestate every commercial/military target in the country.


Dont really want High Yield. We do want the oil and we dont want the whole place to glow for 1,000 years do we!!!!

The B61-11 is a low to intermediate yield weapon to hit the government if it is underground. The B61-7 is a 10kt -300kt weapon. The B61 has many variants from .35kt to 300kt the W88 goes beyond that but the is a end of game checkmate weapon. Definately not some thing we need to use on ol Hugo!!!
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just do what we did for hiroshima and nagasaki before we nuked them drop millions of leaflets that basically said "we have a atomic bomb and WILL use it. we are not against the citizens of japan, but those who control it. if you do not wish to die, leave these cities immediately."

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