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Old 09-21-2003, 12:16 AM   #1
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why are 99+ more powerful

why do the 99+ have more horsepower? wtf? a 50 hp difference between my car and those. I'm pissed.
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why do the 99+ have more horsepower? wtf? a 50 hp difference between my car and those. I'm pissed.
the point of making a newer car is to make it faster, and better than the previous
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but why? what are the changes?
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its actually 40hp difference b/w the 96-98s and the 99-00 and 43hp in 01+.

now for the reason: in 99+ ford went with a split port design. that means that the cylinders each have 2 runners for each cylinder. on the intakes, there is a long runner (for torque) and a short runner (for hp). the ability of the split port system allows for more air to flow at higher rpms causing more hp. also, the TB size was increased and more air is able to flow stock. Lastly, the stock 99+ heads flow a bit better stock. another thing they did was to convert the 94-98s return style fuel system to a returnless style in the 99+. that means it relys more on the computer and the MAF to calculate the airflow and the fuel required. In 01, the upper intakes got IMRCs (Intake Manifold Runner Controls). these are in the long runners only. what they do is open up at low rpms so that torque can be there. but above a certain rpm, they shut off air flowing thru the long runners and force it to only go thru the short runners. this effectivly gives a little more hp.

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why do the 99+ have more horsepower? wtf? a 50 hp difference between my car and those. I'm pissed.
Yeah it pisses me off to man . All these bolt-ons and a stock 99+ will still beat me. Not really worth modding if you ask me.
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It's not all about the power... It's about the looks, too. Sadly, 94-98s are lacking both.


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Sadly, 94-98s are lacking both.
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actually, we all know that 94-98's are sexy *** hell. anything newer just looks too importish to me. I want a mustang, not ford's attempt to sell cars to asians. And seriously, chicks like our body's much more too.
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hmmm... :

WTF is wrong with the importish look? It's called: Welcome to year 2003 not 1963, new futuristic designs are welcome. Imports make the freshest NEW designs - while domestics are living in the past.. I still can't believe Ford went with the bull**** "Historic retro" look on the new Mustang. What an ugly ****ing car that's gonna be.......
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What an ugly car that's gonna be...
I agree. Those new photos of it look like crap. I think they had it (more) right with the concept. The production vehicle looks pretty gay.

Ford had it going in the right direction with the 99+ mustangs. It's no coincidence they sell mustangs and focuses more than any other car. People want cool and new ####. They don't want rehashes from the 60s. They don't want ****ty looking Tauruses or Escorts, either. Look at the new "GT". Euro-looking as they are, they're sold before they even get on the market. Look at the RETRO thunderbird... That went nowhere. Nobody bought that piece of junk.
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It's not all about the power... It's about the looks, too. Sadly, 94-98s are lacking both.


j/p...
true dat. oh, and: RETRO CARS OWN ALL!!!!
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i dont think either mustang style looks importish I will say i favor the 94-98 body style and i honestly havent talked to someone in person who likes the 99 plus style better. Im willing to bet a high amount of money that the public would choose our body style over the 99 plus in looks. Also so what if it has 40 more HP there r a few things that the 94-98 still has over the 99 plus. The mods r cheaper and the single ports handle nitrous a lot better having less runners to go thru. Hence my setup a 100 shot can be ran farely safely on a singleport but i wouldnt trust it on a split port without some safety work. The 99 plus's r also faster stock due to a higher gear ration. single ports have 2.73's and splits have 3.24s or something close to that. That makes up a good amount of performance difference too. Im not hating on the 99 plus guys cuz ive seen plenty that look awsome. I just prefer my body style over the 99 plus and there r ways to make up for the lose of power. Bolt ons r bolt ons all the pullies, CAI in the world r only gonna give u 12 HP 12TQ if ur lucky anyways. Get ur bolt ons first then start saving for nitrous or a SC. Bolt ons arent really gonna be a difference maker in a race. They r meant to combine with the rest of ur mods to give u that lil boost. And by the way there r plenty of good looking imports and asian chicks r hot as hell.
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i dont think either mustang style looks importish I will say i favor the 94-98 body style and i honestly havent talked to someone in person who likes the 99 plus style better. Im willing to bet a high amount of money that the public would choose our body style over the 99 plus in looks. Also so what if it has 40 more HP there r a few things that the 94-98 still has over the 99 plus. The mods r cheaper and the single ports handle nitrous a lot better having less runners to go thru. Hence my setup a 100 shot can be ran farely safely on a singleport but i wouldnt trust it on a split port without some safety work. The 99 plus's r also faster stock due to a higher gear ration. single ports have 2.73's and splits have 3.24s or something close to that. That makes up a good amount of performance difference too. Im not hating on the 99 plus guys cuz ive seen plenty that look awsome. I just prefer my body style over the 99 plus and there r ways to make up for the lose of power. Bolt ons r bolt ons all the pullies, CAI in the world r only gonna give u 12 HP 12TQ if ur lucky anyways. Get ur bolt ons first then start saving for nitrous or a SC. Bolt ons arent really gonna be a difference maker in a race. They r meant to combine with the rest of ur mods to give u that lil boost. And by the way there r plenty of good looking imports and asian chicks r hot as hell.
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is there a reason ur being a #####?
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Havn't gone to bed yet, and it's raining like a mother****er....
I've been in better moods..
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im just using that internet slang U know how that goes being a T HUG right?
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im just using that internet slang U know how that goes being a T HUG right?
No, sorry to dissapoint you..... :no:
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i wasnt typing like that all those drugs u do not only keep u at 120 pounds but make u see things too?
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i wasnt typing like that all those drugs u do not only keep u at 120 pounds but make u see things too?
Typing bull**** U, and R, is close enough... You also don't seem to know #### about punctuation. Not enough blood flow into your brain?
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this is funny coming from u. Im sure u dont even go to college since all u do is play on the internet and u probably dropped out of highschool? Im a Loan CSR for a small loans company and i also am almost finished with a marketing degree at the University of Akron. Not the greatest of schools but it beats sittin around hacking into computers and smoking pot. Quit responding ##### ur nothing but trash and u know it. Hey isnt it time for ur ###### fix Powder? Notice i typed you with a U along with some other grammerr errarrsz.
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wow thats rough.
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this is funny coming from u. Im sure u dont even go to college since all u do is play on the internet and u probably dropped out of highschool? Im a Loan CSR for a small loans company and i also am almost finished with a marketing degree at the University of Akron. Not the greatest of schools but it beats sittin around hacking into computers and smoking pot. Quit responding ##### ur nothing but trash and u know it. Hey isnt it time for ur ###### fix Powder? Notice i typed you with a U along with some other grammerr errarrsz.
Ok moron.....

1) I aced High School
2) I attend a state University
3) I've been living on my own for years now
4) I own 2 cars, both of which would demolish your POS
5) I don't do drugs

You're calling me trash? WTF are you, in denial? Take your bull**** degree, and dissapear - as you probably will in a couple of years.

I think all of your working out, has cut off the blood circulation to your brain... I don't think that's too healthy, you might want to get help - although it looks like it's too late in your case. dip ****
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whatever go sell some ### wannabe white trash. Your nothing. And i dont buy half of the bull**** u say. So keep lieing. Your worthless to the world.
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truth hurts
in your case..... it's kinda sad actually
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whatever go sell some ### wannabe white trash. Your nothing. And i dont buy half of the bull**** u say. So keep lieing. Your worthless to the world.
that's a good one... Is that the best responce you got?

You shouldn't get so worked up - it kills brain cells, and it looks like you can't afford to lose anymore of those.
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" I own 2 cars, both of which would demolish your POS"

I thought the probe didnt have an engine???

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who cares he got both of those cars off of faulty insurance claims anyways. The GHETTO way to have nice things.
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who cares he got both of those cars off of faulty insurance claims anyways. The GHETTO way to have nice things.
Where'd you come up with that? All I got from insurance so far was $5,300 for my old car that was rear ended to ####. You should be a bit more informed before trying to make up bull****.
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" I own 2 cars, both of which would demolish your POS"

I thought the probe didnt have an engine???

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it does now
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Ladies, Ladies. There's no need to fight. Now put down the shoes, hug, and make up. I think you two have run into each other before, and I seriously do think it needs to stop. It's a car forum. "For reals". Throwing words around can be fun (like making fun of mike when he's drunk), but all out wars just can't go on.
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what kind of engine?
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why do the 99+ have more horsepower? wtf? a 50 hp difference between my car and those. I'm pissed.
Yeah it pisses me off to man . All these bolt-ons and a stock 99+ will still beat me. Not really worth modding if you ask me.
unless you're just into it, a v6 isn't worth modding anyways.

check this out:

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the bidding is over, but for <400 you can bolt on 40hp, then maybe a cheap DIY turbo or supercharger for ~2,500$... easy 250rwhp min - 325 max.
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that is a good idea or you can go my route and just use the less runners to your advantage and get a 100 shot of nitrous some bolt ons and a chip and be around 250 rwhp.
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yeah, nitrous is another option. i haven't been too impressed with mine, though i haven't used it much.
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yeah, nitrous is another option. i haven't been too impressed with mine, though i haven't used it much.
you have to have solenoids that work first
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