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Old 06-09-2006, 04:50 PM   #71
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they only want money from those who are making money from selling parts obviously
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they only want money from those who are making money from selling parts obviously
Hopefully, but I'd rather see FORD say it in writing...

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Hey, Ford, we know your reading this, someone is, we are not that dumb.....cough it up, you want my money right? Too bad, Im a single mother with my oldest, and pregnant 5 months on the way, come and try to take our money.

O wait, is Brents money, yea dont take his either, my baby is gonna get his car, he promised it, haha
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...O wait, is Brents money, yea dont take his either, my baby is gonna get his car, he promised it, haha
so could one deduce that Brent will have offspring soon? 2:
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haha Its not his child, but he offered the car anyways, cuz Im such a nice person
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well if you were a greedy CEO who knew you could dump 25 million extra in your pocket this year.. you would probably screw the american public as well.. with that much money you could probably care less about brand loyalty as you can retire and be happy lol.
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Bill Ford should know better and also hope to leave a legacy in fine shape for his family.
Hopefully it is just going after the places that are using the name for monetary gain,
I know when I did porting for V6 Mustangs alot I never used their name, just my own!
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Bill Ford should know better and also hope to leave a legacy in fine shape for his family.
Hopefully it is just going after the places that are using the name for monetary gain,
I know when I did porting for V6 Mustangs alot I never used their name, just my own!


It's also directed towards entities which the general population can mistakenly assume are affiliated with Ford, whereby activities, discussion, and content could be detremential to the company and it's copyrights.

For example - any and all *WW* threads which allow the display of pornographic material or linking to pornographic, illegal or unethical information or activities can reasonably be determined to be slanderous to Ford. Whether the specific website generates a profit or not is irrelevant under these circumstances.

However, any person using the Ford, Mustang, Cobra etc. names with the intent to identify with copyrighted material for the purpose of generating traffic, and revenue, can clearly be the target of suit.

However, sites like V6power.net may be in a better situation, but any graphic display of the logos could also make them liable.



I am a long time member of another site which the car manufacturer had legal issues with. To the extent that the name, model, and image of the vehicle was determined to infringe. The site garnered attention due to it's size related to other sites and a special subsection which featured nude human females near the specific vehicle.
The initial suit wanted forfeiture of the URL and the elimination of the site and content. The owner fought it, but ultimately the large auto manufacturer had deeper pockets with better lawyers, and ended up seeking damages in the 6-figure range. Needless to say - the site is now gone. The revenue generated was not the initial focus of the litigation, it was the photographs which drove that.


To put it simply. Does the content of the site tarnish the Ford name?
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It's also directed towards entities which the general population can mistakenly assume are affiliated with Ford, whereby activities, discussion, and content could be detremential to the company and it's copyrights.

For example - any and all *WW* threads which allow the display of pornographic material or linking to pornographic, illegal or unethical information or activities can reasonably be determined to be slanderous to Ford. Whether the specific website generates a profit or not is irrelevant under these circumstances.

However, any person using the Ford, Mustang, Cobra etc. names with the intent to identify with copyrighted material for the purpose of generating traffic, and revenue, can clearly be the target of suit.

However, sites like V6power.net may be in a better situation, but any graphic display of the logos could also make them liable.



I am a long time member of another site which the car manufacturer had legal issues with. To the extent that the name, model, and image of the vehicle was determined to infringe. The site garnered attention due to it's size related to other sites and a special subsection which featured nude human females near the specific vehicle.
The initial suit wanted forfeiture of the URL and the elimination of the site and content. The owner fought it, but ultimately the large auto manufacturer had deeper pockets with better lawyers, and ended up seeking damages in the 6-figure range. Needless to say - the site is now gone. The revenue generated was not the initial focus of the litigation, it was the photographs which drove that.


To put it simply. Does the content of the site tarnish the Ford name?

Don't know about Ford, but it would be Extreme Hypocrisy
for general motors to sue someone for over porn, because GM is a parent
company (or in a conglomerate) that is the #1 largest supplier of porn to
pay-per-view hotel room accounts. Saw it on 20/20 or a similar show. I was
amazed at how much money it earned for them. Multi-billion dollar business.
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Don't know about Ford, but it would be Extreme Hypocrisy
for general motors to sue someone for over porn, because GM is a parent
company (or in a conglomerate) that is the #1 largest supplier of porn to
pay-per-view hotel room accounts. Saw it on 20/20 or a similar show. I was amazed at how
much money it earned for them.
Maybe they should move into porn distribution/production instead of pay-per-view porn since they are still in the hole...pardon the pun.
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Maybe they should move into porn distribution/production instead of pay-per-view porn since they are still in the hole...pardon the pun.
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this thing in the pingback side bar below is disturbing in the present context:

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So does this mean if a business even has Pony in the name and it doesnt sell mustang stuff It to can be in jepordey??

Can I copy right my name and sue other people for using it hahaha
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So like, fuqin A, put up a disclaimer that states you are not affil. with them, and be done with it, stupid retards, I hate things more when Im sick
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there already is a disclaimer on the site.
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Yea, well I dont read those things
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So like, fuqin A, put up a disclaimer that states you are not affil. with them, and be done with it, stupid retards, I hate things more when Im sick
*wanders off*
Good Point. The problem is that most places want an "implied affiliation" so they
don't post disclaimers and the like... What we really need to do is become a "club".
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We should not have to become a club just to satifsy some fool that has an IQ of my shoe size. Most forums are fan based, and club like, but not need to advertise it, just to make some rich greedy company happy. If they are seriously that concerned about all of this, well, their not, cuz I have yet to get a knock on my door for bad mouthing everyone related to Ford.

(Randomly: since I am prego now, and had thought to wait afew years to get my Mustang, Im really debating this entire issue now, maybe just go get something else)

If a person can go to a website and just assume it (like ME for exampe) is with Ford/whatever, then this same person, really, needs to read my sig and understand it again. Your dumb! lol

I dont usally read disclaimers, since Im over that magickal age now, but there is one on my site, only b/c its linked from anothers site who happens to have a 9 year old daughter, and I put it up there one the first page only to state that 'bad words follow' type deal.

If you are seriously that dumb, that you can not tell the differance between an offical Ford site, and one that is does by a fan, then here MOFO, here is your sporking sign.

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What in the world does your company take me for?
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If they are really concerned about the mustang name and keeping it in good light they need to focus on making a mustang worthy of the mustang name instead of wasting their time/money tracking down the fans of mustang they currently have.
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Isnt that something like slander on your fan base?
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How long will it be until Ford's Utah-based pirate-lawyers try to jack up "other" users of the precious "Mustang" name.

Example:

The City of MUSTANG, OKLAHOMA has collected TAXES under the name "MUSTANG" for over 100 years! Mustang's cops even prowl their beats in FORD POLICE INTERCEPTORS! Mustang's annual "Western Days" parade often features convertible Ford Mustangs and the local MCA affiliate hosts a "Mustang" car show. Mustang has also hosted the MCA Grand National show at least once and reportedly will host it again in 2007 . . . .

Surely some moron will confuse "Mustang" with "Ford Mustang . . . ."

How long will cash-strapped 'lil Billy let those "OKIES" profit from the trade-marked "MUSTANG" legacy?

And how long will it be until some brilliant business enterprise locates their mail-order "classic auto parts" operation in Mustang, Oklahoma, then DARES Ford's jack-booted legal thugs to come sue them in the Great Sooner State?

Folk wisdom for the Ford spies reading this thread: "Those who work in GLASS HOUSES shouldn't throw stones . . . ."
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How long will it be until Ford's Utah-based pirate-lawyers try to jack up "other" users of the precious "Mustang" name.

Example:

The City of MUSTANG, OKLAHOMA has collected TAXES under the name "MUSTANG" for over 100 years! Mustang's cops even prowl their beats in FORD POLICE INTERCEPTORS! Mustang's annual "Western Days" parade often features convertible Ford Mustangs and the local MCA affiliate hosts a "Mustang" car show. Mustang has also hosted the MCA Grand National show at least once and reportedly will host it again in 2007 . . . .

Surely some moron will confuse "Mustang" with "Ford Mustang . . . ."

How long will cash-strapped 'lil Billy let those "OKIES" profit from the trade-marked "MUSTANG" legacy?

And how long will it be until some brilliant business enterprise locates their mail-order "classic auto parts" operation in Mustang, Oklahoma, then DARES Ford's jack-booted legal thugs to come sue them in the Great Sooner State?

Folk wisdom for the Ford spies reading this thread: "Those who work in GLASS HOUSES shouldn't throw stones . . . ."
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Who is that Brent? Sounded like you at first
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Just a couple updates for everyone......

1st, this is from don farr of mustangmonthly magazine

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I met with Jim Owens, Ford's Mustang Marketing Manager, during the Mid-America Shelby Meet in Tulsa this past weekend. I am happy to report that Jim, who had no prior knowledge of the cease and desist letter going out to companies about using word Mustang in their company names, is working with Ford's legal department to resolve the issue. At this point, the cease and desist letter is no longer being sent out and they are trying to figure out how to work with the companies that have received the letter. Nothing official has been drawn up, but it's in the works and I will be sure to let you guys know when it happens. Sounds like they are considering something like a small fee, perhaps just $1, for the use of the name, renewable over a certain amount of time. Of course, companies that are not legit - deceitful, fraudulent, etc. - will still be contacted.

Like I said, it's not official yet, but at least something is in the works to fix the situation.
2nd)Site Business's doing business with anything mustang related in their name's ARE being shutdown:
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Fomoco.com gooooone!!!!!

Well, It's well and truely under way now!!!

Fomoco.com has now been seized by Ford lawyers!!!!!


Ok, folks, its official - the folks at Ford (actually, one of their outside
law firms) have obtained a court order to seize Fomoco.com, as of
early this morning. They will also be claiming two other domains I'd
paid for, but never developed.

I can't be certain when the 'site will go dark, so I'm assuming that is
imminent. Due to the vagaries of on-line technology, it may already
be unreachable from wherever you are, in the world.

I will try to have a temporary web-board set up by noon, Eastern, tho'
I'm not sure if that's soon enough. Meanwhile, I'm writing to a few of
you, privately. Some of you guys know each other, so maybe you can
pitch in and try to contact the others? If the Forum's still running, you
can grab some eMail addresses, from there.

Guess that's it, for now. I'll post (and write) again, later...soon as I've
got time & something useful to say.

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Also, if you look here:
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Original text and images are ©Copyright FoMoCo Obsolete, 1998-2002
Not related to Ford Motor Company. Trademarks are property of their respective owners.

Site design & graphics by Radcliffe Publishing
This Ford Mustang parts website updated Wed 07 Sep, 2005
Allen had a decent footer letting people know that his website was his and not affiliated with ford in anyway..




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Also, if you look here:
Allen had a decent footer letting people know that his website was his and not affiliated with ford in anyway..




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But that clearly is intending to garner business by using the Parent Company's name
or a designation that leads people to a site other than Ford. If this Allen Cross fellow
does indeed own the FoMoCo domain name, then Ford can compensate him and claim
the domain. That's how it has been done in the past, first to register a domain
is legal owner of it on the "web". That's how we lost the V6Power.com
the outgoing "president" of V6Power let it lapse and a cyber-squatter snatched it
up and wanted $1000 for us to "buy it back" we basically said at that point "shove it"
Gaston and several of us were willing to collect some funds but this was blatent
profiteering of a non-profit online club.
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very true man.............Just wantin to keep people up to date with the latest in ford's attempt to take control back of their mustang name.........and Allen Cross lost his site back to ford thru lawyer's along with a cease and desist letter.....I am trying to get a copy of the letter, hopefully he will share it.
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Please let me have the letter as soon as you get it.
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I'd like to add to or modify my prior comments about Mr. Fomoco, (without "editing" the above) at first I thought it
was a joke or "troll" screen name, now I see I was wrong, my apologies.

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or a designation that leads people to a site other than Ford
that could be true, but it's clear from seeing his ebay store that no one in their right mind
would confuse Mr. Fomoco with Ford Motor Company.

I do believe that if he did indeed hold the fomoco.com domain name, that Ford should be
required to compensate him for the url or at least be able to claim that url instead
of "damages" that could be sought under the normal legal tactics that are being
seemingly upheld by the courts. Seems like a fair trade to me.

Nice to meet you Allen, I'm Robert Greene, I've done much V6 Mustang work
over the last 8-9 years myself. No name problems here but I do sympathize
with you to some extent. People such as ourself actually help Ford IMO,
because without a good aftermarket Ford loses business to GM and the imports.
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Text from my letter sent to Ford:

Look, Ford, I'm just your average Mustang guy. I've owned 4 Mustangs in my 44 years, a 66 Coupe, an 80 Coupe, an 01 Cobra convertible, and now an 03 Coupe. I love the Mustang, its legacy, its image, and the companies that help me enjoy my passion even more. I thought I loved the company that produced the Mustang, but these recent events may just turn me away.

Let's face facts. This car would not be on the road today without Mustang enthusiasts who own, drive, and modify these cars, as well as the folks who run many of these companies today who support the Mustang name and the hobby. Why are you trying to put these companies that have supported your product so long out of business? They kept this car and this hobby interesting during the lean years (you know what I'm talking about), and now that you've got a product on the road the industry is actually envious of, you're trying to cut off the hand that has fed you all these years.

If these companies were actually taking away revenue from product sales that should be Fords, then I would understand the litigation, but most products and services these companies offer can't be obtained from Ford dealers or Ford Racing. They're simply filling a gap in the market that Ford has made a conscious decision not to fill. Isn't that why Saleen, Roush, Steeda, Foose, and many other companies exist today? To fill Market gaps Ford has decided not to? I have an idea. If a company is using the Ford/Mustang/Pony/Stang name and is truly taking away revenue from a market Ford is actually in, then why not offer a licensing or operating agreement to these companies instead of trying to eliminate them? Ford Racing products wouldn’t be on nearly as many cars today without these other companies. As for the other companies that are NOT offering products or services Ford or Ford Racing offer, the issue of using the name becomes even less intrusive to Ford, and a simple license agreement surely is the answer to this.

I'll close by giving Ford an ultimatum just like the one given to all these companies that support the Ford and Mustang name and legacy. If Ford goes forward and is successful in greatly reducing or impacting my ability to enjoy my Mustang hobby by proceeding with this litigation action, then I say there are other great products offered by Ford’s competitors that will do nicely to fill the gap created by Ford in order to satisfy a car enthusiast like myself. Ford may see me as only one average Mustang guy with some principles. But I’m also a hobbyist with money to spend where I please. Thanks for listening.
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well said pony ride..........well said.

And rgr, i am sure he is okay with it.....I even think he is in the process of starting another website at this time and will still sell part's on ebay, just not from his online business he had. I also heard that he did not show up in federal court in michigan to tell the judge his side of the story, so he lost his websitestore by default.


I am also still waiting on a copy of the ceast and desist order. You would sure think it would be easy to scan a copy and email it out.......


anyways, i will do my best to keep all up to date.......
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Old 06-23-2006, 05:00 PM   #102
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**** paying a dollar, and **** ford. Each time I read this thread, and think back to Ford being just as money hungry as M$, it makes me want to drive a VW Thing instead.

*I am holding this Mustang hostage, and if Ford todays down Brent's site, its sooooo getting blown to smitherens*
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I just sent an email to Ford telling them how disappionted I am with them about this whole issue, and how stupid it is for them to be doing this. I also told them that I am considering trading in my car for either a 03/04 Cobra or a knew Mustang GT, but that if they carry out these threats I would stop looking at these car and look for a nice F-body, maybe a Trans Am with a LS1.
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here is ford's official response:
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A publication called Mustang Monthly says Ford Motor Co. is out to sue the pants off anyone using the Mustang name.

Partially true.

"We police and protect the trademark all the time, but every once in a while it pops up," Ford spokesman Dan Bedore said.

Bedore said a flurry of Internet chat room exchanges created the impression that Ford has filed a rash of suits.

The magazine said an Internet parts supplier using the Mustang name got a letter from Ford demanding payment. The inference was that Mustang clubs or even those wearing Mustang T-shirts risk standing before judge and jury -- if not CEO Bill Ford.

"We've invested a lot of money in the trademark and try to protect it," Bedore said. "Car parts Web sites using it are in business to make money, and they should pay us to use our trademark."

So did Ford ever demand a check from the now defunct Mustang Ranch, a bordello outside Las Vegas?

"It's when our name and logo are used to sell auto parts that it becomes a legal issue," Bedore said, and, of course, auto parts aren't what the ranch sold.
So, as far as Ford Motor Company is concerned, we enthusiast's are in the clear. They are only going after those companie's that are selling car part's and not paying ford for use of their trademark.
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