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Old 07-17-2006, 08:45 PM   #1
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holy crap, boyd coddington hit a new low

I am watching American Hot Rod, and they are coating an ENTIRE CAR WITH BONDO?? DOUBLE YOU TEE EFF MAY TSSS?????
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I am watching American Hot Rod, and they are coating an ENTIRE CAR WITH BONDO?? DOUBLE YOU TEE EFF MAY TSSS?????
i hate that guy
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he sucks... id rather buy a stock mustang than have him give me one of his old resto's... ****in sell out
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That's ridiculous. He should be thrown into a tub full of warm jelly and crabs with large pincers and a hatred for nipples.
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Re: holy crap, boyd coddington hit a new low

He does that to ensure the smoothest surface possible. I understand where he's coming from with making show only cars, but still...it's kinda ridiculous and the cheap/easy way out. I'd rather do metal work and make the metal perfectly smooth and use a very light skim over the body to ensure absolutely smooth surfaces and the best gap lineups possible. It's pretty cool how easy it is to fix trunk/hood/door gaps by using a light bondo skim. I need to practice more though...
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dude most of the best shops use the techniques that his painters use. even Charley, who was once Coddingtons go-to guy for paint, uses body filler even after extensive body work. the term "Bondo Bucket" comes straight from this process.

Coddingtons cars are Top Notch. anyone who bases their quality on the mere 3 minutes they actually show them working on the cars are a ****tard. the cars they show are the "Drama Cars", the good ones that the rest of the shop produces that arent shown cause all the drama queens arent working on them are some of the best cars to grace this country.

you really think if using the bondo technique was that bad, that Coddington would still win 1st place at almost every car show he attends?
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I like the cars he produces, but Boyd himself is a clueless tool. It's no wonder they've lost all of their best guys over the course of a year or so.
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they do that then sand it smooth its how they make the cars so smooth and the paint so nice.
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I like the cars he produces, but Boyd himself is a clueless tool. It's no wonder they've lost all of their best guys over the course of a year or so.
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Coddingtons cars are Top Notch. anyone who bases their quality on the mere 3 minutes they actually show them working on the cars are a ****tard.
I'm not denying that Boyd's cars look top notch. I just thinking skimming an entire car with bondo is a little over the top. If someone decides to drive that car on a power tour or something, that car will be ruined, a rock will hit the bondo and the entire panel will crack. I am no hardcore-metal-only guy by any stretch, my car has a pretty decent amount of filler on it, its great for fixing things, smoothing out welds and shaved stuff, and even fixing gaps like lowflyn said. I also wouldn't go as far as to call me a "****tard" because I don't think a car should be completely coated in bondo. I'm not saying I'm a pro by any means, but I am willing to bet I have way more body work experience than you.
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Re: holy crap, boyd coddington hit a new low

it doesnt really matter if you think it shouldnt be coated in body filler, or if you dont use it, because all of the cars done that way, after extensive body work, will use body filler over the whole surface anywhere any work was done. hell id like to know that my car was entirerly covered in body filler and every inch was gone over with a fine tooth comb (or in this case, 1000grit). its just another "attention to detail" thing that most people dont do.

besides, by the time theyre done with the body work, 99% of that body filler is sanded off.

and i highly doubt a entire panel will crack right down to the 1mil layer of body filler thats left due to a rock. if anything, their countless layers of clear his cars recieve will just chip.
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so you are telling me that instead of your car having primer/sealer/paint/clear right over the metal, you'd rather have a substance between them that expands and contracts with heat and is much more fragile than steel?

I use filler over the areas that I have worked on, but I don't coat the entire car
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'm sure 80% of that bondo ends up on the floor through sanding, he is just trying to make the surface smooth everywhere.
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Re: holy crap, boyd coddington hit a new low

they use the body filler to make sure the panels are perfect, they sand off most of it only leaving what needs to be to make sure the panels are smooth. You can NOT eye ball it no those panels, things look WAY different after they are painted vs bare metal.
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quick build primer > porous bondo that absorbs primer and paint

If I was paying that kind of money for a car, I'd rather have them spray the whole thing in black primer, then go over every with a light putting bondo only where needed, now THATS attention to detail my friends
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quick build primer > porous bondo that absorbs primer and paint

If I was paying that kind of money for a car, I'd rather have them spray the whole thing in black primer, then go over every with a light putting bondo only where needed, now THATS attention to detail my friends
Exactly.

Anyone who bondos an entire car is a hack. Plain and simple.

Primer will show nearly all imperfections in the paint. Really and truly, the best way to do it is primer and then spray a layer of base coat. Then check once again for any imperfections, which will now be very visible. If anything is found, fix it, prime it again, rinse and repeat.

They were probably in a rush to have the car done, so they just took the easy way out. Slap bondo over the entire car and then start sanding. I'd be pissed if they did that to my car.
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Really and truly, the best way to do it is primer and then spray a layer of base coat.
thats why I said black primer, its a helluvalot cheaper than color, lol
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Re: holy crap, boyd coddington hit a new low

well when you guys build cars that are show quality day in and out and make the likes of coddington and foose look like crap, then talk.
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You would never see Foose do that. I can guarantee you that much.
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well when you guys build cars that are show quality day in and out and make the likes of coddington and foose look like crap, then talk.
I suppose the same could be said to you as well. Not bein an ***, but it can go both ways.
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You would never see Foose do that. I can guarantee you that much.
umm, Charley, who once ran the body shop for Coddington, now is under Foose.
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Of course the igh build primer method is alot better, but these guys have dead lines and there are ALOT of man hours involved when blocking the whole car after primer.
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If they are trying for Barrett Jackson quality, they would get more for it doing it the primer way than bondo.
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well when you guys build cars that are show quality day in and out and make the likes of coddington and foose look like crap, then talk.
get your hands dirty, do some body work, put hundreds of hours of body work into your own cars and a dozen others, form your own opinions not based on what you see on tv, get a better argument than "you're a ****tard", then talk. kthxbye
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Boyd is a tool that just sits in his hawaiian shirts and *****es at his employees for not making the retarded deadline he accepts. The bondo action is the quick and dirty way to get a car done with the "appearance" of perfection in order to meet the deadline. Boyd is over the hill. He is no longer the man. He also has no personality....and thinks he is king ****. Case in point...gets pissed at his ace painter because he wants to move back home and be with his family. If I were Charlie, I Would have put boot to *** when Boyd went off on my for wanting to be with my family. Who cares where I go...

Now, Roy on the other hand, that dude would have been great to work with. Our personalities would have matched perfectly.
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^ does that mean you are a grumpy old man that enjoys drinking and building cars, and is equally and exstencively knowledgable in each field?
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^ does that mean you are a grumpy old man that enjoys drinking and building cars, and is equally and exstencively knowledgable in each field?
I Am a grumpy old man in a 30 year old body that enjoys drinking (only to excess) and working on cars (still learning)....am very experienced in the drinking side....getting there on the car side. Another 30 years and I Will be the shiznit.
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hahahaha, incredible, way to lighten the mood in this thread
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get your hands dirty, do some body work, put hundreds of hours of body work into your own cars and a dozen others, form your own opinions not based on what you see on tv, get a better argument than "you're a ****tard", then talk. kthxbye
Those cars never even see any real duty, when he accepts those deadlines he has to have his guys doi it that way as opposed to the high build primer method. It is a difference between a week of work or a month, with a full staff.
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Those cars never even see any real duty, when he accepts those deadlines he has to have his guys doi it that way as opposed to the high build primer method. It is a difference between a week of work or a month, with a full staff.
Exactly. That is why it's a hack. They are doing things the quick way instead of doing it the right way. No one in their right mind who knows anything about body work would say that covering an entire car in bondo is "the way to do it." If you need that much bondo, the car is probably a waste. Either that or every body panel needs to be replaced. If the body panels are straight, there is no need for bondo to make it smooth.

Bondo should only be used sparingly, such as when filling holes and repairing dents (which will also many times require filling a hole). It is not metal. It will not hold up as well as metal. It is a putty that dries up real hard. Do you really want your car covered in that? Like someone else said, one rock could ruin an entire body panel if the entire thing is covered in bondo.

I'm sorry that I don't suck Boyd Coddington's dick and all.
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I have no idea whats the best way to do that as I am no expert in body work. Simply by the fact that you made this thread I can also determine that you are also no expert in this field by far.
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never said i was an expert, just saying i have a some experience and differing opinion that I am sure ALOT of people that do have experience also share
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