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Old 07-19-2006, 01:37 PM   #1
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I hate George Bush:

The sorry bastard hasn't vetoed a single bill that's crossed his desk. Not a single one. Until now.

Congress passes a bill in the name of science. A bill that makes research on science that could improve/save the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans some day. Of all the bills that have come across his desk he has to veto this one. Why? Some religious mumbo-jumbo. I absolutely hate him. If the world is even the least bit fair, he'll be aflicted with one of the ailments that stem cell research has a possibility to cure, but can't...because nobody could research it. That would make my day.

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Re: I hate George Bush:

and I hate Boyd Coddington, but I don't see people climbing up your *** about your opinion
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yea, I think stem cell research is a great thing.... people just dont understand what they are actually doing...
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but I don't see people climbing up your *** about your opinion
Thank the lord. That sounds uncomfortable.
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I agree this is not something he should veto.
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What can I say, he is such a ******bag for vetoing this bill because of a religious motive.
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Re: I hate George Bush:

I guess I have to hate both of my Alabama senators, too:

Sessions (R-AL), Nay
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and I hate Boyd Coddington, but I don't see people climbing up your *** about your opinion
lol cause i happen to agree with the LS1 guy.

the one bill he should have vetoed was the one about the FCC and them wanting to make a delay to every sports event, so they can listen for fans shouting expletives, so basically we will never have live television again due to these ******** called the FCC.

but instead he vetoes the bill that allows the furtherment of the human race by using stem cells to allieviate us of century old ailments.
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Re: I hate George Bush:

I agree with you guys.
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Re: I hate George Bush:

all i can say is i understand why he did it, he has had the same thought about it for the whole time. my GF did a paper on stem cells.. For J102 (90+page paper)
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Life starts at conception whether that conception is done the natural way or done in a petri dish in an IVF lab somewhere, gathering stem cells else where as in an umbilical cord is different.
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Life starts at conception whether that conception is done the natural way or done in a petri dish in an IVF lab somewhere, gathering stem cells else where as in an umbilical cord is different.
That's a valid opinion. I don't necessarlily agree with you, but you're entitled to that opinion. The ****ed up thing is, though, these clinics are just tossing them out. So the "life starts at conception" people should be up in arms about that. Nobody seems to mind, though. Toss 'em out = okay ... Use them for research = terrible. I just don't get it.
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Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Omg, I agree with Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer for California Senators.
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That's a valid opinion. I don't necessarlily agree with you, but you're entitled to that opinion. The ****ed up thing is, though, these clinics are just tossing them out. So the "life starts at conception" people should be up in arms about that. Nobody seems to mind, though. Toss 'em out = okay ... Use them for research = terrible. I just don't get it.
I understand what you are saying. But maybe people would start having more abortions just to donate the fetus to "science". I dont know I guess I can see both sides but I'm def not for killing a human being.
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I understand what you are saying. But maybe people would start having more abortions just to donate the fetus to "science". I dont know I guess I can see both sides but I'm def not for killing a human being.
I really doubt it.
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Feinstein (D-CA), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Yea
Omg, I agree with Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer :woo: for California Senators.
They're democrats thats why hahaha. Crap I prob just started something.......
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You just stated the obvious lol
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They're democrats thats why hahaha. Crap I prob just started something.......
Exactly, the party that does not let it's judgement be clouded by religion.
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Well being from the south and being a preachers child, I guess could have influenced my life hahaha.... but even if taking one life to save a thousand to me is not right and yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion to this I understand. I'm not ashamed of my beliefs and I believe it is wrong in God's eyes as well.
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Exactly, the party that does not let it's judgement be clouded by religion.
Oh give me a break. Maybe they should start praying. Maybe then they will have a chance to win back the senate and house from all these "religous fanatics" that have put them to the ground for the last 4 years.

Don't make stereotypical comments.
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Re: I hate George Bush:

both the parties need to be banned anyway... they both are screwed up in one way or another....
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Oh give me a break. Maybe they should start praying. Maybe then they will have a chance to win back the senate and house from all these "religous fanatics" that have put them to the ground for the last 4 years.

Don't make stereotypical comments.
You are quite optimistic about November, the dems may not win majority but I guarantee they will win some seats.
It was appropriate in this case. Only one democrat voted no.
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
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You are quite optimistic about November, the dems may not win majority but I guarantee they will win some seats.
It was appropriate in this case. Only one democrat voted no.
Nelson (D-NE), Nay
It was not appropriate. Look at how many republicans voted yes and crossed over. You generalized an ENTIRE party for one persons veto.

Of all the people you should not be knocking someones religious beliefs.

I can be this optimistic because democrats have nothing at all. All they do is cry like a damn 2 year old girl. Boo hoo Bush sucks OMG make him go away.

They offer 0.
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It was not appropriate. look at how many republicans voted yes and crossed over.

Of all the people you should not be knocking someones religious beliefs.
Im not knocking anyones religious beliefs, but dont think religion should have a role in determining law.
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I can be this optimistic because democrats have nothing at all. All they do is cry like a damn 2 year old girl. Boo hoo Bush sucks OMG make him go away.

They offer 0.
And a large majornity of the American public agree with the "Boo hoo Bush sucks OMG make him go away." as shown in Fox News polls.
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Im not knocking anyones religious beliefs, but dont think religion should have a role in determining if lives are saved or not.
Then what should because science is just as flawed.

No one has been able to define when life starts. So who decides?
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And a large majornity of the American public agree with the "Boo hoo Bush sucks OMG make him go away." as shown in Fox News polls.
Oh yea? Just like all the polls said Kerry was going to win in 04.

How did that turn out again?

Polls are bull****. I voted for Bush against Kerry in 04 and I would do it again today and I will do it again in 08 should the Democrats put up someone else like Kerry against a like minded republican. There is no place in the White House for some fairy **** Kerry.
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Im not knocking anyones religious beliefs, but dont think religion should have a role in determining law.
Man guess what my dollar bill says....."In God we trust". Yeah that sums it up.... our country started out with religion...Christianity.
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Then what should because science is just as flawed.

No one has been able to define when life starts. So who decides?
This is not an argument of whose theory or life is correct, just that theories should not get in the way of medicine that has proven itself to work.
I don't see much flaw in science though.
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Man guess what my dollar bill says....."In God we trust". Yeah that sums it up.... our country started out with religion...Christianity.
Man guess what, separation of church and state was an idea of thosewho founded our country. How does that have anything to do with medicine?
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This is not an argument of whose theory or life is correct, just that theories should not get in the way of medicine that has proven itself to work.
I don't see much flaw in science though.
So I'm guessing you believe Darwins theory or the Big Bang........Thats what science had to offer for the meaning of our creations.
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Exactly, the party that does not let it's judgement be clouded by religion.
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This is not an argument of whose theory or life is correct, just that theories should not get in the way of medicine that has proven itself to work.
I don't see much flaw in science though.
You don't see much flaw in science? Everyday flaws are found. Drugs are found to have effects that scientists never saw once they were used by Humans. Science has been flawed since people started experiementing with this world.

"The Earth is flat"
"The Earth is the center of the universe"

These were all facts of science before they were proven wrong later on down the road.

You can't tell me that our current thinking of life does not have a very real possibility of being flawed.

Since when has stem cell research proven to work? When has it cured cancer? While I agree that we should be doing it you are stating things that are not true and you are attacking a political party like the other can do no wrong.
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