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Old 08-03-2006, 08:47 PM   #1
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Nintendo poised for dominance...

Here's one for all the avid console gamers and/or nintendo naysayers...

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Despite the woes in the video-game sector, Nintendo (NTDOY, news, msgs) posted solid second-quarter results and is cruising toward an exciting Christmas season. A possible global recession would be just the ticket for this specialist in low-cost gaming.

Playing and winning against high-priced, technologically superior rivals is Nintendo's specialty. So far, Sony's (SNE, news, msgs) PSP has been the ideal foil -- a fancy, expensive rival with lackluster software support. I expect Microsoft's (MSFT, news, msgs) offerings to follow suit. (Microsoft is the publisher of MSN Money.)

This Christmas is billed as the battle of tabletop consoles. Sony PS3 hype is mounting as Microsoft tries to ramp Xbox 360 volumes above 10 million units ahead of the rival launch. But the combination of DS and the cheap Wii tabletop machine could well turn out to be a winning formula for Nintendo -- particularly if consumers grow wary of spending more than $600 on a new console/game package.

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Nintendo's share price has performed strongly over the summer, moving from $17 to $23 during the past six months. It's a fairly solid performance, considering how wobbly software companies like Electronic Arts (ERTS, news, msgs) and Activision (ATVI, news, msgs) have been during the same period.

In its latest quarter, Nintendo delivered an 85% revenue increase and a tolerable 10% EPS hike. That's a good performance, considering it's coming just ahead of the launch of its new tabletop console, Wii, in the fourth quarter.

Nintendo's resurgence is anchored by two products, both cheaper and in some ways more idiosyncratic than its main competitors'. The portable game console DS is enjoying a spectacular second year and has started overpowering the rival Sony PSP console, particularly in Japan. The upcoming tabletop console Wii is now expected to launch in the October-November time frame and possibly beat the PS3 to the market by at least a month.

The original DS console was a relatively clunky piece of hardware; however, its second iteration, the DS Lite, is one of the big consumer-electronics success stories of 2006. The two color screens of the original unit are now squeezed into a slim, cheap, iPod-like clamshell that offers portable gaming at $130.

Last week, the pink version of the DS Lite triggered another buying frenzy in Japan, boosting the weekly sales above 250,000 units. In June, the U.S. launch of the DS Lite gave a major boost to Nintendo's DS games and helped Nintendo grab two of the top three positions on U.S. sales charts for video-game market software.

The reason why DS is turning into a real gold mine for Nintendo is simple:

DS is a game console that has become a mainstream success basically on the back of the software sold by the console provider. In Japan, Nintendo has sold more than 21 million units of DS games -- the second-biggest DS software supplier has moved only 2 million units. Usually, console vendors have to grovel for the support of third-party game developers in order to gain strong sales of their game consoles, but Nintendo has the ability to sell 50 million units of its portable consoles on the back of its own game development. That's an edge no company can match.

The launch of the DS Lite has helped Nintendo open a lead over Sony PSP in America -- 590,000 vs. 220,000 in June. But more importantly, DS is now clobbering PSP in Japan -- 260,000 vs. 35,000 in the latest weekly data.

Over the past couple of months, Sony has been trying to stage a comeback by aggressively marketing innovative new titles. But the key summer PSP titles have now flopped in Japan -- both Bleach and LocoRoco debuted to barely 30,000-unit weekly sales, getting trampled by several month-old DS games.

The dead-on-arrival debut of LocoRoco must be particularly galling to Sony -- it's a methodically constructed copy of a typical Nintendo title.


This whimsical game features brightly colored blobs in a psychedelic fantasy world and has an interesting and intuitive control scheme. It got extensive media coverage and high marks for originality and playability from industry people months ahead of its launch.

Unleashing a monster
But consumers aren't buying the Sony-in-Nintendo's-clothing act.

DS has acted as a launch pad for several brand-new franchises, a tough feat in an industry increasingly hooked on sequels: Sony's PSP has remained highly dependent on life support from aging PS2 franchises like Monster Hunters and Wipeout. The DS Lite's performance this summer is hammering the last nails into PSP's coffin. Both Japanese and U.S. developers are flocking to DS, indicating a swell in software support in 2007 and 2008.

For Christmas 2006, DS is unleashing the monster -- Pokemon is coming back, with new creatures and moderately revamped graphics. This may well be the biggest software hit of the fourth quarter in Japan. It's remarkable that DS has done as well as it has before its lead franchise even arrives.

Sony likely will be forced to launch PS3 earlier than planned, trying to drum up new support by boosting hardware specifications (notably memory) radically. Microsoft's possible portable-device launch in the first half of 2007 is likely to help push Sony into this decision. This would leave Nintendo's DS as the only portable game device with a substantial global user base for Christmas 2007. By then, its price is likely to be below $100, which is going to be an even more enticing price point if the economy continues to cool.

personally, i'm looking in to buying some Nintendo stock

they'll be #1 again soon

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Old 08-03-2006, 08:50 PM   #2
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I doubt it. I'll still be buying my PS3 for my NCAA Football
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I'll build me another gaming box before I buy a Nintendo or a PS3.
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we shall see...

i know i ain't spending $500+ dollars to play video games
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I've got two high-end, watercooled gaming boxes. I spend better than $3k on the first one and about $2k on the 2nd.

That includes monitor and everything on the second one, though.
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I've got two high-end, watercooled gaming boxes. I spend better than $3k on the first one and about $2k on the 2nd.

That includes monitor and everything on the second one, though.
see, that's too much to spend just for gaming. especially on cookie cutter PC titles
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see, that's too much to spend just for gaming. especially on cookie cutter PC titles
Cookie cutter PC titles? PC gets the most innovative games, consistantly. The consoles just get ****ty ports of PC titles and sports game sequels.
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Cookie cutter PC titles? PC gets the most innovative games, consistantly. The consoles just get ****ty ports of PC titles and sports game sequels.
I agree. I just prefer playing sports game on console. I play everything else on the Comp.
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Cookie cutter PC titles? PC gets the most innovative games, consistantly. The consoles just get ****ty ports of PC titles and sports game sequels.
i've never seen a legend of zelda or mario title on PC
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Re: Nintendo poised for dominance...

besides, console gaming and pc gaming are two seperate beasts

i prefer console gaming myself anyway
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the only time i ever play console games is with others.. i never sat down and played a console game since i was like 16 years old. nintendo makes the funnest multiplayer games.

why?

nintendo focuses on fun.

sony and microsoft focus on good/the best graphics (something i find somewhat irrelevant).

plus nintendo is going to be 1/3 the price. i might not buy any of them (i also prefer pc games) but if it came down to it id definitely get the nintendo.
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nintendo makes the funnest multiplayer games.

why?

nintendo focuses on fun.

couldn't have said it better myself
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i've never seen a legend of zelda or mario title on PC
WTF? This is the worst example of cookie cutterness that I've ever heard of.
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lol, yea, they're the ones that everyone else copies

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Nintendo shall dost verily reclaim it's rightful throne of dominance all upons the world of consloe gamingeth. w00t, can't wait.
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haha with the Wii?

so we can have more ****ty mario and zelda crap? uh-oh, here comes another Metroid, watch out Master Chief.

Nintendo has lost their footing on the US market with the flop of the Gamecube and the short life of the N64(shouldve used CD's). Nintendo can keep their japanese styled crap over there. Take all your pokemon arena 46 and dragonballz junk with you.

only games nintendo had that were worth while was Goldeneye64, Perfect Dark, and Episode 1 Pod Racer. come to think of it, those were the only games i had for it.

i think PS1 had the funnest games. i still have my PS1 hooked up and play Twisted Metal and Jet Moto all the time.
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haha with the Wii?

so we can have more ****ty mario and zelda crap? uh-oh, here comes another Metroid, watch out Master Chief.

Nintendo has lost their footing on the US market with the flop of the Gamecube and the short life of the N64(shouldve used CD's). Nintendo can keep their japanese styled crap over there. Take all your pokemon arena 46 and dragonballz junk with you.

only games nintendo had that were worth while was Goldeneye64, Perfect Dark, and Episode 1 Pod Racer. come to think of it, those were the only games i had for it.

i think PS1 had the funnest games. i still have my PS1 hooked up and play Twisted Metal and Jet Moto all the time.
Meh. Zelda is some of the greatest platform gaming ever. And the new one will be no exception. I would by a Wii just for that. But then there is Mario,SSM, Perfect Dark, a bunch of other good franchises.
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zelda is one of the crappiest and most boring and drawn out franchise evar. makes megaman 27 look original.

perfect dark might be cool, but since it released a game on the 360, i highly doubt nintendo will be able to have sole rights to it again.
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Another thing that Nintendo has that neither Microsoft or Sony has, is nostalgia. I remember playing Zelda Gold on NES, and thats what made me want Ocorina of Time on N64. Same thing with the Mario series.
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While on the subject of game system can someone tell me how to save ps1 games on ps2. It wont save to a ps2 card, I was woundering if I buy a ps1 memery card can I then play a ps1 game on my ps2 and save it.
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While on the subject of game system can someone tell me how to save ps1 games on ps2. It wont save to a ps2 card, I was woundering if I buy a ps1 memery card can I then play a ps1 game on my ps2 and save it.
Yeah, you have to have a PS1 memory card. Sony really screwed that part of it up...

I probably won't buy any of the new consoles since I never really played my PS2 that much... but if I got one it would be the PS3. I'd rather play new Metal Gear, Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy than Zelda or Mario. Nintendo was the **** back in the good ol' days of NES and SNES, but they kinda went downhill from there.
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...personally, i'm looking in to buying some Nintendo stock
they'll be #1 again soon

I really don't think itisi their technology (or lack thereof) that is holding them back,
it's the fact that all they do is re-tread their old Mario games and such with each new system they bring out!
My kids got sick of it after having just an SNES and an N64...
not enough new games for an upgraded system = teh suckage


I would have kept buying it for them if that is what they wanted.
Tony switched over to a PS2 after that and Amanda just plays PC games.
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